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du thread ^ | May 4, 2012 | self

Posted on 05/04/2012 10:15:31 AM PDT by lacrew

After 283 Posts at DU, I have been Tombstoned.

I used the same username I have here, and have generally tried to be argumentative, rude,…and educational. Alas, I have been found out. The last straw was abortion…and let’s face it, most of modern liberal philosophy revolves around abortion. So, I flew too close to the sun, and my wings have melted.

I really thought I could gently nudge people on DU in the right direction. But what I found is a group of immature and emotionally damaged children, constantly craving for attention and an idol who will ‘make it all better’. Yet, they are very dangerous. What did I learn:

1. No logic skills. Any attempt at thoughtful discussion, or bringing facts into an argument will immediately be dismissed. DU posters will disengag, with epithets and other dismissive ‘I’m done with you’ statements. They absolutely cannot back up their beliefs in any logical way, and will always resort to name calling.

2. Immaturity. I suspect many of them are college students, too dumb to know how the world works. And some are what I call the ‘gray ponytail crowd’. These are the truly sad ones – people in their mid 60’s with the emotional IQ of an 8 year old. They have lived for over half a century, yet still blame a nebulous group of bogeymen for all their troubles. And, quite frankly, they seem to have lived very unfulfilled lives.

3. Affirmation. There is a groupthink mentality at work. Often threads start with an all caps ‘THIS IS WHY’…and then you fill in the blank with the cause de jour. Comically, however, these poor souls in search of positive reinforcement get none – as nobody replies to their thread. Which leads to the next observation:

4. Dead end threads. People will log on and post random thoughts, almost like a Twitter tweet. Often times the title gives no hint at what the post is even about. The vast majority of these have no responses. This results in a fast moving procession of threads. Also, less than half the threads have a link of any sort…they are merely somebody so pleased with their own opinion, that they just have to post it (I know pot meet kettle, but it’s rare for me).

5. Victimization. If you peruse the threads on this board, we find examples of bad policy, and our disdain for how it erodes our system, our constitution, the future for our children, etc. On DU, the threads are about threats to me, me, me! The GOP is going to take away stuff from ME! This overlaps my immaturity observation.

6. Jealously. They are very concerned with what goes on at Free Republic. They all know who Jim Robinson is…most here do not know who their leader is, nor care. They often link to Free Republic, to point out the terrible things being said. They even copy and paste text from this site fairly regularly. I have been tempted to do the reverse, but I just consider it ‘bad form’. There is one person here who posts the Dummy Funnies already…I’m certainly not going to duplicate his work, and I don’t think anyone wants this to become a ‘look how bad they are’ posting society (again my own hypocrisy is not lost on me). They often bash this site, not for its content, but for being ‘outdated’. Honestly this has puzzled me, because their site may be new (and certainly expensive); but, I don’t like the way the threads are organized, and it seems impossible to search for posts by individual user. In short, their derision of this site’s technology is misplaced. They also seemed stunned that rating services which measure hits and unique visitors give similar scores to the two sites. They just cannot fathom that Free Republic has just as many members as they do….and it bothers them greatly.

7. Idol worship. This also falls in with affirmation. Out of the blue, a poster might post a photo of MO, and declare how wonderful she looks, or just post how glad they are that BO is ‘my president’. And these threads do get lots of responses – a groupthink lovebomb approach that cult leaders have used for decades.

8. Sadness. These people cannot be happy. It is fundamentally impossible for them to exist, without worrying about green Armageddon, how some employer is screwing them, how the bankers have more money than them, etc. Most also live a life completely without God. And, they are so consumed with themselves, they don’t experience the joys of helping other people, sacrificing their aspirations for their children, etc. Just hollow souls – very, very sad.

I plan to post this on DU….it won’t stay up long, but maybe it will help one person there escape from the deranged society. Maybe.


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1 posted on 05/04/2012 10:15:35 AM PDT by lacrew
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To: lacrew

I always know I’ve won an argument with a liberal when he/she drops the f-bomb on me.


2 posted on 05/04/2012 10:20:00 AM PDT by NRA1995 (I'll cling to my religion and guns till they're pried from my cold dead fingers!)
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To: lacrew

It’s more like Dummies United over there.


3 posted on 05/04/2012 10:26:44 AM PDT by b4its2late (Patience is not a virtue, it is a waste of time.)
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To: lacrew

ßookmark
F U D U


4 posted on 05/04/2012 10:28:31 AM PDT by ▀udda▀udd
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To: lacrew

Something I’ve always appreciated about the FR crowd is the general restraint from cheering the death or hardship of a Leftist icon, and the effort to keep the language here clean. It’s known as “class” and it’s something I’ve found utterly lacking on my trips to DU.


5 posted on 05/04/2012 10:32:37 AM PDT by GOP_Party_Animal
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To: lacrew

People who lead off their reply to a post with “That is so true” bug me. I am not sure why, but it does.


6 posted on 05/04/2012 10:34:10 AM PDT by GSWarrior
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To: lacrew
I occasionally find myself in long discussions with a very liberal "friend" on mine on Facebook. We also happen to be neighbors in real life, and she friended me, so I think it would be in bad form to "unfriend" her.

Although I never noticed it at the time, many of her retorts to my arguments are simply name-calling. She loves to call me a "Tea Partier" (which while I agree with much of their platform, I've never attended a rally or event); she loves to call me a "Bushie," (which, although I greatly respect and miss him more and more, I'm hardly an apologist for him); she always laments "Faux News," and still thinks I listen to Rush Limbaugh and Glenn Beck, and has various and insulting names for those two. Lately, she's been calling me a "Romney-ite," whatever that means, and I've never made any reference to being a supporter.

7 posted on 05/04/2012 10:34:36 AM PDT by Lou L (The Senate without a filibuster is just a 100-member version of the House.)
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To: lacrew

I’ve picked up on the phrase “War on Women”. I ask them, “What is the War on Women?” When they start babbling on about not being able to get you to pay for their contraception, I tell them;

“That’s not war. People get killed in war. Do you want to know what’s killing 10’s of millions of women a year?

The natural balance of the sexes in live births is about 105 boys to 100 girls. By the time they get to reproductive age it’s about 100:100. But in China it’s 120:100 and in India it’s about 115:100 - the two most populous countries in the world. Why? Because the combination of ultrasound examinations and abortion are used to destroy female babies. 10’s of millions of girls are killed every year using abortion. Balance that against the few thousand - if that many - women who might have died at the hands of an illegal abortionist and you see that the true War on Women is being fought worldwide, and the #1 weapon is abortion.”


8 posted on 05/04/2012 10:36:34 AM PDT by RonF
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To: lacrew

Reviewing your posting history you are too smart to be a democrat.


9 posted on 05/04/2012 10:39:44 AM PDT by McGruff (Support your local Republican candidates. They are our last line of defense.)
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To: lacrew
"2. Immaturity. I suspect many of them are college students, too dumb to know how the world works. And some are what I call the ‘gray ponytail crowd’. These are the truly sad ones – people in their mid 60’s with the emotional IQ of an 8 year old. They have lived for over half a century, yet still blame a nebulous group of bogeymen for all their troubles. And, quite frankly, they seem to have lived very unfulfilled lives."

So much this.

But let me make a suggestion to you, go back under a new name and astroturf. Much, much fun.

10 posted on 05/04/2012 10:41:27 AM PDT by StAnDeliver (=)
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To: GSWarrior
People who lead off their reply to a post with “That is so true” bug me. I am not sure why, but it does.

That is so true.

11 posted on 05/04/2012 10:42:38 AM PDT by kevkrom (Those in a rush to trample the Constitution seem to forget that it is the source of their authority.)
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To: Lou L
she friended me, so I think it would be in bad form to "unfriend" her.

Next time you see one of her posts, put your mouse over it and in the top right corner there will be a down arrow. Click it and select "Unsubscribe from X," which won't "unfriend" her, but will hide her updates from your news feed so you won't have to look at them. She won't know, and you'll be able to keep your sanity.

And don't forget to put one of these up next to your fall yard signs:


12 posted on 05/04/2012 10:43:37 AM PDT by Dan Nunn (Support the NRA!)
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To: kevkrom

Lol!


13 posted on 05/04/2012 10:50:16 AM PDT by St_Thomas_Aquinas (Viva Christo Rey!)
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To: lacrew

spent time over there myself when it first started about ten years ago. it hasn’t changed.


14 posted on 05/04/2012 10:50:16 AM PDT by lonster
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To: St_Thomas_Aquinas

Well, c’mon... he was begging for it, wasn’t he?


15 posted on 05/04/2012 10:54:15 AM PDT by kevkrom (Those in a rush to trample the Constitution seem to forget that it is the source of their authority.)
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To: lacrew

I kept trying to set up and use accounts over there but they were quickly banned. And in every case my primary MO was to ask questions. That’s right. I stated few opinions, and when I did, I would state them very gingerly. Things like, “is it possible that so-and-so is actually right? If so, how would that impact us? Stuff like that. Each one got banned for being contrarian.

That was about 3 years ago. I don’t even think about the site now unless someone posts about it. And one reason is your list. You are spot on. I just don’t take the site seriously.


16 posted on 05/04/2012 10:54:33 AM PDT by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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To: RonF
"The natural balance of the sexes in live births is about 105 boys to 100 girls. By the time they get to reproductive age it’s about 100:100. But in China it’s 120:100 and in India it’s about 115:100 - the two most populous countries in the world."

A problem they will first try to unsuccessfully import/export (women/men) to Oceania, and when that doesn't work, civil war.

17 posted on 05/04/2012 10:55:44 AM PDT by StAnDeliver (=)
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To: kevkrom

That only took 8 minutes.


18 posted on 05/04/2012 10:58:46 AM PDT by GSWarrior
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To: lacrew
After 283 Posts at DU

I'm saddened when I see such a waste of 283 good posts.

They all know who Jim Robinson is

But do they know who Jim Thompson is?

19 posted on 05/04/2012 11:03:58 AM PDT by Night Hides Not (My dream ticket for 2012 is John Galt & Dagny Taggart!)
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To: lacrew

I think many of DU’s posters are paid Obama operatives.


20 posted on 05/04/2012 11:08:41 AM PDT by liberalh8ter (If Barack has a memory like a steel trap, why can't he remember what the Constitution says?)
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To: lacrew

“7. Idol worship.”

Reminds me of those “Day in the life of President Bush” threads. To our credit, all the idol worship WAS encapsulated in ONE daily thread.


21 posted on 05/04/2012 11:12:33 AM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Occupy DC General Assembly: We are Marxist tools. WE ARE MARXIST TOOLS!)
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To: lacrew

haha. Glad you did the research and not me :).


22 posted on 05/04/2012 11:14:28 AM PDT by GOP Poet
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To: lacrew
keep walking/nothing here..but, even "tombstoned".. banned..
even in real death; they'll still vote 'rat/Marxist.

23 posted on 05/04/2012 11:23:58 AM PDT by skinkinthegrass (WA. DC E$tabli$hment; DNC/RNC/Unionists...Brazilian saying: "$@me $hit; with different flie$". :^)
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To: Night Hides Not

:)

They won’t make the Jim Thompson mistake, because they use a perjorative nickname most of the time.

I left it off the list, but name calling is a comon tactic.

Reptard, Rethuglican, etc, etc,...as well as prolific use of profanity....such as a common thread title: John Doe needs to F Off (in all caps with exclamation points).


24 posted on 05/04/2012 11:40:58 AM PDT by lacrew (Mr. Soetoro, we regret to inform you that your race card is over the credit limit.)
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To: GOP_Party_Animal

I forgot about that part. When Breitbart died, some posts were downright nasty, while others used the “I don’t want to speak ill of the dead, but....” format.

Some members there even tried to clean that up...but were rebuffed (usually with the F word).


25 posted on 05/04/2012 11:44:04 AM PDT by lacrew (Mr. Soetoro, we regret to inform you that your race card is over the credit limit.)
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To: lacrew

I always feel like I need a shower after I go there.


26 posted on 05/04/2012 11:46:40 AM PDT by stevio (God, guns, guts.)
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To: RonF

I once tried to explain Chinese infanticide to a liberal. They’ve got over a billion people, so any movement in the boy/girl ratio has to have been a result of hundreds of thousands of (often forced) abortions, and infanticide.

He just flat did not believe me. So that was the end of discussion as far as he was concerned.


27 posted on 05/04/2012 11:47:23 AM PDT by lacrew (Mr. Soetoro, we regret to inform you that your race card is over the credit limit.)
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To: lacrew
The GOP is going to take away stuff from ME!

I have an account over there but haven't went back for a while. It really is a DUmp and I apologize to the landfill operators.

One suggestion is to make sure you immediately get into a decontamination tent and if that isn't possible, take a regular shower with a heavy duty scrubber as the filth from these vermin is thick.

As far as your quote above in italics. This is what has really bothered me for some time now. I cannot see any way around the fact that when the Republicans push for cutting back "the goodies" that A LOT of voters receive, you will lose their vote.The Rats know this and exploit it DAILY via their lamestream media accomplices. You can shout from the rooftops that it is only a reduction in the increase and it will never get reported that way let alone understood by the sheeple.

I hate to be dire in my prediction but it seems to me that they "goodies" system will have to fail before any real change can happen. Then of course, the Rats and their lamestream media accomplices with summarily blame it on the Republicans. Take it to the bank.
28 posted on 05/04/2012 11:56:13 AM PDT by copaliscrossing (Progressives are Socialists)
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To: lacrew
When Breitbart died, some posts were downright nasty, while others used the “I don’t want to speak ill of the dead, but....” format.

I'll cut the turds some slack on Breitbart because he so successfully showed the public what a bunch of liars and scumbags liberals are.

Likewise, it would take restraint higher than what I currently have to feel sorrow over the passing of David Brock or George Soros, if it were.

29 posted on 05/04/2012 12:02:48 PM PDT by Dan Nunn (Support the NRA!)
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To: GSWarrior
People who lead off their reply to a post with “That is so true” bug me. I am not sure why, but it does.

That is so tr...oh, wait.

30 posted on 05/04/2012 12:03:08 PM PDT by JRios1968 (I'm guttery and trashy, with a hint of lemon. - Laz)
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To: kevkrom
Well, c’mon... he was begging for it, wasn’t he?


31 posted on 05/04/2012 12:07:41 PM PDT by JRios1968 (I'm guttery and trashy, with a hint of lemon. - Laz)
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To: GSWarrior
That only took 8 minutes.


32 posted on 05/04/2012 12:09:06 PM PDT by JRios1968 (I'm guttery and trashy, with a hint of lemon. - Laz)
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To: JRios1968; GSWarrior
Or does that apply to #18 instead?
33 posted on 05/04/2012 12:12:49 PM PDT by kevkrom (Those in a rush to trample the Constitution seem to forget that it is the source of their authority.)
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To: JRios1968
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34 posted on 05/04/2012 12:13:25 PM PDT by airborne (Paratroopers! Good to the last drop!)
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To: kevkrom

Ah, never mind. Already taken care of.


35 posted on 05/04/2012 12:15:12 PM PDT by kevkrom (Those in a rush to trample the Constitution seem to forget that it is the source of their authority.)
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To: lacrew

Too bad you got squished on DU

But! Now that you’re probably going to be bored - pop in on some of your local newspaper sites article comment sections.

This is where middle-moderate-America hangs out to get their news and opinions - when they aren’t watching Colbert and Letterman....It’s relatively safe work-viewing sites that they glean their info from...In my area the sections are filled with progressive liberals and a few of us Conservatives commenting.


36 posted on 05/04/2012 12:34:34 PM PDT by libertarian27 (Check my profile page for the FReeper Online Cookbook 2011)
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To: lacrew

283 posties? I have to ask, how many conversations with nadinebrezinsky? The DU hysterical expert on EVERYTHING! It’s amazing to watch her unravel when she makes other DUmpsters “dead” to her.


37 posted on 05/04/2012 1:08:01 PM PDT by PennsylvaniaMom (Just because you are paranoid it doesn't mean they aren't out to get you.)
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To: lacrew
< cue kumbayah >

It's my sincerest rainbow hopey, from the smiley huggy depths of my heart, that some shining unicorn day we can simply . . .

              . . . with those assclowns !


38 posted on 05/04/2012 2:00:32 PM PDT by tomkat ( FU.baraq <font finger=middle>)
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To: PennsylvaniaMom

I only tangled with nadinbrzezinski once. It was on a thread about the post office financial woes. She (I assume she)jumped in and said I was wrong about something....just found it in the Google cache...her title in her response to me is “No they did not”.

I immediately replied with a link (to Huffington to keep it legit in their eyes) which proved her to be the fool. Its an example of how I was able to be pretty rude, and get away with it, since facts are hard to fight. Here’s a snippet:

They absolutely did defer the pension payment, from FY 11 to FY 12. The $5 billion loss in FY11 was exclusively the difference in income and expense...completely outside of any pension payments, which were delayed until November ($5.5 billion). So, I really have no idea what you are talking about....I did not remember wrongly at all.

She did not respond.

I tended to avoid her, and many of what I call the ‘core’ group. There are probably around 50 members there with post counts over 40,000, and they make up the bulk of the posts. They are mostly zealots, and I imagine have diagnosed mental disorders (and I’m not being flippant). They have a sense of personal ownership over the site, and are quick to ‘tattle’ on people. I have seen people who crossed their path get tombstoned for very minor slights.

But I got away with it that one time. Obviously I didn’t get away with it today, though.


39 posted on 05/04/2012 2:08:06 PM PDT by lacrew (Mr. Soetoro, we regret to inform you that your race card is over the credit limit.)
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To: libertarian27

Good point. I’ve actually commented on a few local articles...but at my local paper, the atmosphere in the comments section is toxic. A dozen ‘regulars’ just launch personal attacks at each other...so nobody bothers reading the comments section.

The Colbert crowd worries me greatly....and I really don’t know how to counter it. There is some solace in knowing that the ratings for the likes of Colbert and Letterman are relatively low....they may be good ratings for the time slot and format...but the total number of viewers is still low.


40 posted on 05/04/2012 2:27:48 PM PDT by lacrew (Mr. Soetoro, we regret to inform you that your race card is over the credit limit.)
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To: lacrew

You’d be surprised ...lots of people read those and never comment...you can be the toxic avenger! lol..
.and you could turn it around...set the mood for the site...


41 posted on 05/04/2012 4:12:02 PM PDT by libertarian27 (Check my profile page for the FReeper Online Cookbook 2011)
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