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Cinco de Mayo a Mexican import? No, it's as American as July 4, prof says
CNN ^ | 5 may 2012 | Michael Martinez,

Posted on 05/05/2012 8:45:52 AM PDT by mandaladon

Los Angeles (CNN) -- Cinco de Mayo -- the unofficial U.S. holiday long believed to have been imported, with celebratory beer, from Mexico -- isn't a Mexican holiday at all but rather an American one created by Latinos in the West during the Civil War, according to new research by a California professor.

Conventional thinking has held that the holiday -- now a commercial juggernaut -- may have grown out of the mass migrations from the bloody Mexican Revolution of the 1910s or even during Chicano Power activism of the 1960s, University of California at Los Angeles Professor David Hayes-Bautista said.

But on the 150th anniversary of the holiday, Hayes-Bautista is announcing that he happened upon the true origins of Cinco de Mayo -- the 5th of May -- after poring over Spanish-language newspapers in California from the mid-1800s while working on another research project.

Cinco de Mayo does indeed mark a Mexican military victory over the invading French army on May 5, 1862, but it's celebrated more in the United States because in 1862, U.S. Latinos of Mexican heritage parlayed the victory as a rallying cry that the Union could also win the Civil War.

That's because the French sympathized with the Confederacy, and Hispanics sided with the Union in its fight against slavery and elitism, Hayes-Bautista said. France sought to impose a monarchy over democratic Mexico while U.S. foreign power weakened during the War Between the States.

Hayes-Bautista, a UCLA professor of medicine whose family lore holds his great-great grandfather fought in the famous Cinco de Mayo battle, has just published a new book on the discovery, "El Cinco de Mayo: An American Tradition," which one historian also at UCLA describes as "of great significance."

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"But if you ask why is anyone celebrating, no one knows. And then you get some people who say it shouldn't be celebrated at all because it's a foreign holiday -- and yet it's as American a holiday as the Fourth of July," he said...........................Can you guess this clown professor is a liberal?
1 posted on 05/05/2012 8:46:00 AM PDT by mandaladon
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To: mandaladon

Do they celebrate the 4th of July in Mexico?


2 posted on 05/05/2012 8:48:13 AM PDT by mandaladon (PalinGenesis)
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To: mandaladon

Cinco de Mayo, Reconquista, latin purity, blah blah blah....for all the blathering about retaking what was theirs, maintaining identity, etc., it is ironic that the proponents no longer speak the language of their ancient forefathers, but speak Spanish, highly mutated by Spanglish influences....from their less-ancient ‘forefathers’ that conquered them. George Lopez can suck it.


3 posted on 05/05/2012 8:49:33 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: mandaladon

How nice! Giving illegals that are sucking the life out of this country a day to celebrate. S/

Let’s just rename it Progressive Vote Pandering de Mayo and be done with it.


4 posted on 05/05/2012 8:50:45 AM PDT by mardi59 (THE REBELLION IS ON!!!)
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To: mandaladon
and yet it's as American a holiday as the Fourth of July
Suuuure it is, just like Kwanzaa.
5 posted on 05/05/2012 8:51:36 AM PDT by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: mandaladon

Because of the war in 1861, the United States was not in a position to enforce the Monroe Doctrine against French imperial designs.


6 posted on 05/05/2012 8:58:03 AM PDT by reg45 (Barack 0bama: Implementing class warfare by having no class!)
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To: oh8eleven
I'm 70....Never heard of or paid attention it until maybe 5 years ago...just like Kwanzaa..

Annoying to say the least. Sure are a lot of lies in the history books nowadays.

7 posted on 05/05/2012 8:58:43 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: mandaladon
Cinco de Mayo a Mexican import?
No, it's as American as July 4, prof says

The fifth of May is Karl Marx's Birthday !!!

Cinco de Mayo was created in the US by Marxists.


8 posted on 05/05/2012 8:58:44 AM PDT by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 119:174 I long for Your salvation, YHvH, Your law is my delight.)
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To: mandaladon

bttt


9 posted on 05/05/2012 9:01:27 AM PDT by TEXOKIE
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To: mandaladon

Or, as our astute President said, Cinco de Cuatro...my preference is for Siete de Nueve, though.

(post photo here if I could)


10 posted on 05/05/2012 9:03:02 AM PDT by JimRed (Excising a cancer before it kills us waters the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS, NOW AND FOREVER!)
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To: mandaladon
Do they celebrate the 4th of July in Mexico?

Strangely enough, July 4th is a big moneymaker for a few cities in south of the border. Cinco de Mayo might as well be the equivalent of Presidents' Day in Mexico. No one really cares.
11 posted on 05/05/2012 9:04:10 AM PDT by Renderofveils (My loathings are simple: stupidity, oppression, crime, cruelty, soft music. - Nabokov)
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To: reg45

Hey, the guy who led Mexican Forces against the French was a TEXAN, born right there in Goliad, Texas...The only American Born Citizen to have his picture on a 500 dollar peso bill. It’s all about Texas! They are proud of Ignacio Zaragoza. NOW can we celebrate?


12 posted on 05/05/2012 9:04:42 AM PDT by rovenstinez
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To: mandaladon

In fact, May 5th is a celebration marking the ongoing Mexican conquest of the American Southwest.


13 posted on 05/05/2012 9:05:28 AM PDT by AEMILIUS PAULUS (It is a shame that when these people give a riot)
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To: Sacajaweau
I'm 70....Never heard of or paid attention it until maybe 5 years ago...just like Kwanzaa..

Same here at 68. Hey, any excuse for a party!

14 posted on 05/05/2012 9:05:28 AM PDT by JimRed (Excising a cancer before it kills us waters the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS, NOW AND FOREVER!)
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To: mandaladon

Cinco de Mayo is like Obama’s girlfriend in his faux-autobiographies: Fabricated.


15 posted on 05/05/2012 9:06:15 AM PDT by Keith in Iowa (Willard Romney, purveyor of the world's finest bullmitt. | FR Class of 1998 |)
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To: UriĀ’el-2012
The fifth of May is Karl Marx's Birthday !!!
The original Earth Day, April 22, was Lenin's 100th birthday.
But I'm suuuuure all of this is just a coincidence.
16 posted on 05/05/2012 9:06:37 AM PDT by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: mandaladon

That professor is a typical leftist idiot. Mexico’s Independence Day is September 16th, their independence from Spain. Every Mexican I know here or have met down there, knows that. Cinco de Mayo is a minor holiday, not even considered important. But leave it up to the Gringo’s marketing genius to find another reason to get stupid Americans into an ethic restaurant American owned most likely) and drink Mexican beer and tequila. Duh.


17 posted on 05/05/2012 9:07:11 AM PDT by john drake (Roman military maxim; "oderint dum metuant," i.e., "let them hate, as long as they fear.")
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To: Sacajaweau

Not only did Benito Juarez conquer the FRENCH, he withstood the Power of the Papacy... Mexican’s don’t like to remember this. GOD HIMSELF HELPED BENITO JUAREZ THAT DAY, dear ole Porfirio Diaz got delayed in Atlixtco, and God sent RAIN in torrential ways to cause the French much havoc in their ability to array the battle. GOD SAVED MEXICO ON CINCO DE MAYO from the FRENCH and from THE PAPACY.. Their Constutitional Gov’t surviced thanks to an Indian Zapotec and a Texan born near Seguin. Let’s Celebrate.


18 posted on 05/05/2012 9:07:40 AM PDT by rovenstinez (u)
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To: mandaladon

Cinco de Mayo ass.


19 posted on 05/05/2012 9:08:16 AM PDT by crosshairs
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To: mandaladon
Do they celebrate the 4th of July in Mexico?

Exactly. Cinco de Mayo is nothing more than one more reason to go out and get drunk here in the US.

I'll start celebrating Cinco de Mayo here when they start celebrating Quatro de Julio there.

20 posted on 05/05/2012 9:08:42 AM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts (I will not comply. I will NEVER submit.)
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To: JimRed

“Or, as our astute President said, Cinco de Cuatro...my preference is for Siete de Nueve, though.”

Or what do you call four Mexicans in a rowboat that’s going down?
Quatro Cinco!


21 posted on 05/05/2012 9:08:56 AM PDT by vette6387
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To: Gaffer

Cinco de Mayo, proudly sponsored by the Tequila Marketing Association.


22 posted on 05/05/2012 9:09:39 AM PDT by reg45 (Barack 0bama: Implementing class warfare by having no class!)
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To: john drake
Mexico’s Independence Day is September 16th, their independence from Spain.

But when they achieved independence they failed to do the one thing that would have saved them; throw out all the white Spaniards who are now the "elite" and keeping the natives in their place. < /sarc >

24 posted on 05/05/2012 9:13:11 AM PDT by JimRed (Excising a cancer before it kills us waters the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS, NOW AND FOREVER!)
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To: Keith in Iowa

LOL...best response so far.


25 posted on 05/05/2012 9:25:39 AM PDT by mandaladon (PalinGenesis)
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To: mandaladon

Is Cinco de Mayo anything like a Latino Kwaanza?


26 posted on 05/05/2012 10:02:43 AM PDT by Venturer
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To: rovenstinez

The French lost the battle but they conquered Mexico and only left because of the end of the US Civil War. They made Maximilian the emperor of Mexico.


27 posted on 05/05/2012 10:05:04 AM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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To: UriĀ’el-2012

Cinco de Marxo


28 posted on 05/05/2012 10:11:04 AM PDT by taterjay
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To: john drake

You are right. Gonna eat with the father-in-law later today. Where.....wait for it....Mexican Villa.


29 posted on 05/05/2012 10:13:02 AM PDT by taterjay
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To: mandaladon

I don’t think I ever met David Hayes-Bautista, but I have met his ex-wife (now a professor at a different university) many years ago (as I recall they were already estranged so I assume they have long been divorced). He’s at the “Cesar Chavez Department of Chicana/o Studies”—political correctness trumps Spanish grammar. (The form “Chicano” should include both male and female.)


30 posted on 05/05/2012 10:15:59 AM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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To: mandaladon

If some want to celebrate it, I don’t give a big damn. I won’t be. I’d say 80% of the people that observe it just use it for a reason to get half drunk.

The holiday will never truly catch on, because it can’t be easily ‘financialized’, unless you are a brewer or bar owner.


31 posted on 05/05/2012 10:21:17 AM PDT by KoRn (Department of Homeland Security, Certified - "Right Wing Extremist")
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To: Keith in Iowa
Fabricated.

Every holiday is fabricated by someone.

32 posted on 05/05/2012 10:30:26 AM PDT by Poison Pill (Obama is the hopium of the masses)
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To: mandaladon

33 posted on 05/05/2012 10:30:26 AM PDT by Manic_Episode (Politics is fake. I think it's owned by Vince Mcmahon)
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To: taterjay

press one for ENGLISH or then press one until you learn ENGLISH!


34 posted on 05/05/2012 10:54:53 AM PDT by itsLUCKY2B (?Borders, Language, and Culture.?)
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To: mandaladon

According to the left these days should not be American days of remembrance:

1) Veterans Day—Celebrates American Imperialism
2) Presidents Day— Washington was a racist slave holder
3) Columbus Day—more Western Imperialism
4) Christmas—Pagan Holiday that offends Islam
5) Easter—same
6) St Patricks Day—too White Catholic
7) Thanksgiving—offensive to native Americans
8) Memorial Day—too military
9) Flag Day—shows a worldwide symbol of hate and oppression
10) Pulaski Day—too Euro-centric


35 posted on 05/05/2012 12:10:14 PM PDT by Le Chien Rouge
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To: KoRn

Is Debbie Wasserman-Schultz the poster queen for
Cinco de Mayonaise?


36 posted on 05/05/2012 12:17:25 PM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: oh8eleven

Just like Kwanzaa is right


37 posted on 05/05/2012 12:18:21 PM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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To: rovenstinez; NYer

Might wish to make a little wardrobe adjustment. . .your anti-Catholic bigotry is showing.


38 posted on 05/05/2012 12:18:31 PM PDT by Hulka
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To: Le Chien Rouge

“Pulaski Day”?


39 posted on 05/05/2012 1:10:18 PM PDT by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both)
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To: Hulka

Catholic hierarchy picked the leaders for Mexico. First was the Tratado de Cordova when the Virey Donaju gave Iturbide the Divine Right to be emperor. It was nice that Benito Juarez inclinced towards a more lay gov’t. Does this make me anti Catholic...okay. Tri Garantia of 1828 Iguala, All Mexicans by law had to be Catholic. Dec. 4th, 1860, by Presidential Degree of Benito Juarez Freedom to chose your religion. Sorry if the facts get in the way of your world view.


40 posted on 05/05/2012 2:29:18 PM PDT by rovenstinez (u)
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To: JimRed

I’m waiting for November 7th so I can celebrate Obama’s unemployment.


41 posted on 05/05/2012 2:53:28 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (Barack Obama has cut and run from what he called "the right war".)
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To: john drake
But leave it up to the Gringo’s marketing genius to find another reason to get stupid Americans into an ethic restaurant American owned most likely) and drink Mexican beer and tequila. Duh.

You can also go to a Chinese, Japanese, Italian, or barbecue restaurant these days. No matter who owns the bidness or runs the counter, the kitchen staff is likely to be largely hispanic with tejano sounds on the radio coming from the kitchen.

42 posted on 05/05/2012 2:57:13 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (Barack Obama has cut and run from what he called "the right war".)
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To: BenLurkin

It’s a day of remembrance in Illinois (I think it’s just Illinois, not sure) for Casimir Pulaski, a Polish cavalry officer who became a general (on our side) in the Revolutionary War.


43 posted on 05/05/2012 3:07:37 PM PDT by DemforBush (A Repo man is *always* intense!)
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To: a fool in paradise

I’m buying the first round in celebration on that day, FRiend!


44 posted on 05/05/2012 3:08:26 PM PDT by DemforBush (A Repo man is *always* intense!)
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To: mandaladon

I think Cinco de mayo is mexican for drink a beer and eat a taco..?
Otherwise, as long as I do not have to submit or pray five times a day.
Its a big...whatever.


45 posted on 05/05/2012 3:17:55 PM PDT by Leep (Enemy of the Statist)
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To: a fool in paradise

I’m waiting for November 7th so I can celebrate Obama’s unemployment.

That will be a historic moment. The first half black non-

citizen,and worst President in America, gets the boot.

Drinks all around!

and the first white hispanic momon is elected President..?

Someone else can by that round of drinks.


46 posted on 05/05/2012 3:25:15 PM PDT by Leep (Enemy of the Statist)
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To: mandaladon

Not that i know of. But i do know that Cinco De Mayo is not as widely recognized or celebrated in Mexico as it is in the US. I also Know that it started out here and did not move into mexico until much later where it was imported from us.

Cinco De Mayo is indeed a U.S. Export not Inport. Much like Nachos. While this may be news to the professor its not news to me. I’ve known this to be the case for many years now.

What I can’t be sure of is the exact cause of the celebration whether it was out of sympathy for the north or simply a matter of a victory against foreign reconquest in the Americas.

I know there was extensive trade between Texas and Mexico during the war between the States. That Mexico in this way provided a backdoor for the confederacy to access the rest of the world. At least until Lincoln’s imperial navy took control of the Mississippi.

I don’t think either Government of Mexico were too particular about whom they traded with. The French like the British were however sympathetic to the confederacy owing to the hypocritical position of Linclin’s Government (betraying the very foundation of self-determination of the once free republic he claim to be defending). Under Lincoln’s imperial threat of war for mere reconciliation nether took sides. The British almost sided with the Confederacy thou.

Trade with mexico largely consisted of “smuggling”, the french & British invasion(Which was initially just to recover debt mexico owed them) rendered mexico in as much need of their arms & resources as the Confederacy.


47 posted on 05/05/2012 3:37:17 PM PDT by Monorprise
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To: DemforBush
Makes sense. I figured it was something like that.

In Cleveland there is a statue to Tadeusz Kościuszko, a Polish patriot and volunteer with the American patriots.

48 posted on 05/05/2012 3:47:54 PM PDT by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both)
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To: Leep

It may be the only date in history where someone being fired actually LOWERS the unemployment rate.


49 posted on 05/05/2012 4:06:22 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (Barack Obama has cut and run from what he called "the right war".)
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To: rovenstinez; NYer

Anti-Catholic bias (anger) still showing.

Please post links to the documents that prove what you allege happened—from the Catholic Church, mind you.

That would be helpful.


50 posted on 05/05/2012 5:07:36 PM PDT by Hulka
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