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The wind bag/ Archie Bunker right!
me | 05/10/12 | fabian

Posted on 05/11/2012 8:48:30 AM PDT by fabian

We have a real problem with the conservative side being represented at too often as a characture of what a real loving and honest conservative is, often by talk show hosts. I won't name names, but when we come off like an Archie Bunker, hardened type, it actually does our side a lot of harm!

When I hear one talk show host claiming that it is the women taking over positions of power and that they cannot make sound decisions, latter changing the facts and saying now only liberal women; yet not including the fact that mans misuse of women is the real fault. Or saying that liberal blacks need to go back to the plantation to get a work ethic back; stirring a lot of emotions, but not with truth but rather hyperbole. Or when another goes on and on, irritated at Obama, just ranting and speaking very little about the greatness of the conservative cause and how so many good things come of lower tax burdens and how people themselves help each other when they have more of their OWN money. Ronald Reagan had the same insights, but he articulated the brightness of the right more, as well as the deceptions that the left were under too. Any unbalanced approach is not good and is happening so much in conservative talk radio land.

So I am not writing this to get down or judge our side, but honestly, all the right ideas without the love is not helping us a whole lot. And we have a real battle here for our nation, with our entire government throughout or country being infiltrated by mostly well meaning, but evil possessed socialist leaders and bureaucrats. It will probably come to arms once again, but in the meantime, let us have fun, be bold and love like Reagan did. If you need help with that, do as so many US troopers are doing, and practice the Be Still and know at www.copingstrategiescd.com.


TOPICS: Chit/Chat; Humor
KEYWORDS: conservative; love; meatheadvanity; obama; truth; zotted
We need to have love too!
1 posted on 05/11/2012 8:48:38 AM PDT by fabian
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To: Bob J; Ted; abigail2

At the risk of being called obsessed, here we go again!


2 posted on 05/11/2012 8:50:13 AM PDT by fabian (" And a new day will dawn for those who stand long, and the forests will echo with laughter")
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To: fabian
Are you on drugs, is that your problem?

What the Hell are you babbling about. Perhaps you hit your head when you fell out of bed this morning!

3 posted on 05/11/2012 9:01:35 AM PDT by Jim from C-Town (The government is rarely benevolent, often malevolent and never benign!)
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To: fabian

4 posted on 05/11/2012 9:03:21 AM PDT by dfwgator (Don't wake up in a roadside ditch. Get rid of Romney.)
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To: Jim from C-Town

What are you saying? My observations are correct as some right wingers are so irritated with the left that they are missing the joy of articulating the right!
What don’t you get? Or are you one of them and just want to pick a fight?


5 posted on 05/11/2012 9:04:13 AM PDT by fabian (" And a new day will dawn for those who stand long, and the forests will echo with laughter")
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To: fabian



Shut up you!
6 posted on 05/11/2012 9:04:17 AM PDT by GQuagmire
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To: fabian

When “All In The Family” was created, Meathead was supposed to be the hero. That quickly changed when CBS found out a lot more viewers identified with Archie.


7 posted on 05/11/2012 9:05:55 AM PDT by E Rocc (November 2, 2010: The beginning of the end of the kleptocracy.)
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To: Jim from C-Town

It’s easy to throw out an insult. But, it kind of goes to the point the OP is making.

I doubt that was intentional.


8 posted on 05/11/2012 9:05:59 AM PDT by don-o (He will not share His glory and He will NOT be mocked! Blessed be the name of the Lord forever.)
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To: GQuagmire

Haha! THat is funny....Micheal Savage reminds me so much of Archie.


9 posted on 05/11/2012 9:06:26 AM PDT by fabian (" And a new day will dawn for those who stand long, and the forests will echo with laughter")
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To: E Rocc

Yeah, he had the right ideas...just missing the love. So many men are too hard and that actually helps to empower the left.


10 posted on 05/11/2012 9:10:36 AM PDT by fabian (" And a new day will dawn for those who stand long, and the forests will echo with laughter")
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To: fabian

What I don’t get is why this brain fart of yours deserves a vanity post.

It is tripe, it is irrelevant, and it is wrong. From the programs I listen to and tune into on TV, most of the Republicans and right wingers are significantly more relaxed, happy, reasonable and clear eyed than their lunatic counter parts on the Left.

So the question stands.

What the Hell are you babbling about?

I think a blanket statement about the ‘Archie Bunkers’ on the right should be represented by an EXAMPLE. Perhaps more than one!


11 posted on 05/11/2012 9:11:47 AM PDT by Jim from C-Town (The government is rarely benevolent, often malevolent and never benign!)
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To: fabian
>>with our entire government throughout or country being infiltrated by mostly well meaning, but evil possessed socialist leaders and bureaucrats.

There's where you blew it. They are not well meaning, loving, compassionate or any other sweet sounding adjective. They hate our individual freedoms. Self reliant people bring out the worst in them because we refuse to be 'controlled' to a point where we cannot take a deep breath. Start over and learn that there is actually Americans who hate our style of government. Look at all the people who are for the freedom crushing tactics of Agenda 21. Oh, you don't know what Agenda 21 is, do you? That might be a good place to start Sweetheart.

12 posted on 05/11/2012 9:13:47 AM PDT by B4Ranch (There's Two Choices... Stand Up and Be Counted ... Or Line Up and Be Numbered .)
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To: fabian

Who is Archie Bunker? Who is calling for blacks to go to a plantation?


13 posted on 05/11/2012 9:16:29 AM PDT by GSWarrior
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To: fabian

I’m hate to say this old chap, but in trying to tell us not to be a caricature you have done just that and given us your caricature of conservatives.

Could you give us a specific example of who and what you are talking about? Anytime you throw around broad generalities you are characterizing. Do all conservative talk show hosts fit this category, of course not; so why the broad brush approach?


14 posted on 05/11/2012 9:20:12 AM PDT by Idaho_Cowboy (Ride for the Brand. Joshua 24:15)
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To: fabian
Your supposition is inaccurate.

Norman Lear, who invented Archie Bunker to mock conservatives, was reportedly shocked when Bunker instead became beloved by the audience. In no small part, this is due to Carrol O'Conner making the character more than one-dimensional, and adding a human side to Archie.

Secondly, the many sayings of Archie Bunker turned out to have great wisdom:


15 posted on 05/11/2012 9:21:44 AM PDT by Lazamataz (To the wall, street occupiers!!!!!)
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To: GSWarrior

reverend Jesse Lee Peterson. He got a lot of reactions from that and he thinks it is because blacks are mad at him for being right. The problem is, that type of hyperbole makes him feel right in comparison to the anger that he stirs up..not really helpful to anyone.


16 posted on 05/11/2012 9:27:30 AM PDT by fabian (" And a new day will dawn for those who stand long, and the forests will echo with laughter")
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To: fabian
People are unique, they see things differently and should be free to express themselves accordingly. They should not be expected to shut up because others disagree.

I'm grateful to live in a nation that respects that. For the time being, anyway.

17 posted on 05/11/2012 9:28:19 AM PDT by skeeter
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To: Lazamataz
Well, yes Archie did have great wisdom...he just lacked that Reagan type of love is all I am saying. Definelty better than the left, of course.
18 posted on 05/11/2012 9:30:16 AM PDT by fabian (" And a new day will dawn for those who stand long, and the forests will echo with laughter")
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To: Lazamataz
A good point. The first quote is classic.

I also find the lack of attention to detail among those that mock conservatives alarming. Why do people use Archie Bunker to criticize conservatives as heartless, why do we use Matt Dillon (the one from Gunsmoke) to critique stand your ground laws?

19 posted on 05/11/2012 9:30:47 AM PDT by Idaho_Cowboy (Ride for the Brand. Joshua 24:15)
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To: skeeter

Yes, of course...I am just pointing out what is oft missing from the right.


20 posted on 05/11/2012 9:33:07 AM PDT by fabian (" And a new day will dawn for those who stand long, and the forests will echo with laughter")
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To: fabian
I feel he did show a lot of love. There were many very touching scenes, when the late and great Carrol O'Conner's brilliant acting would move the audience to tears.

You were made to understand that Archie's gruff exterior was only a front, and that he had a heart as big as the great outdoors.

21 posted on 05/11/2012 9:34:39 AM PDT by Lazamataz (To the wall, street occupiers!!!!!)
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To: Lazamataz

I will never forget the scene in All in The Family with the draft dodger, when Archie found out that Mike’s friend had just returned from Canada, where he had fled the draft.

Archie’s reaction was angry and heartfelt. A very powerful scene.


22 posted on 05/11/2012 9:36:05 AM PDT by dfwgator (Don't wake up in a roadside ditch. Get rid of Romney.)
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To: fabian

There is no ‘love’ missing from the right. Your problem appears to be with different perspectives and manners of communication.


23 posted on 05/11/2012 9:37:33 AM PDT by skeeter
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To: don-o
No don-o. The insult is the one proposed by this gratuitous vanity post.

He insults all conservatives as Archie Bunker. He tries to paint conservatives as intellectually incurious and loud mouthed. He takes us to task when any rational person would see the frothy mouthed rantings of Debbie Was-a-Man-Schultz, Nancy Pelosi and Howard Dean, just to name a few.

Yet he cited NO ONE in his post, painting all conservative pundits as haters!

24 posted on 05/11/2012 9:38:15 AM PDT by Jim from C-Town (The government is rarely benevolent, often malevolent and never benign!)
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To: B4Ranch
Well, I see that is where you and many others blow it. Many leftists do indeed have a well meaning agenda to equalize and help people. The problem we all know is that is is the wrong way to help. Obama is one such brainwashed leader and to see him as just trash or an overtly evil man is really making it harder to not resent him and stand up boldly to him and his type.

Now of course there are the overtly evil , people controlling types like Soros who live off of others being controlled. However, most are socialist mind controlled dupes.

25 posted on 05/11/2012 9:39:25 AM PDT by fabian (" And a new day will dawn for those who stand long, and the forests will echo with laughter")
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To: fabian

Do people even know who he is? He doesn’t carry much weight does he?


26 posted on 05/11/2012 9:39:58 AM PDT by GSWarrior
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To: Lazamataz

Yep, most people get their impression of Archie from watching a few clips....those of us who watched the entire series know that Archie was a very complex character. Caroll O’Connor was a helluva actor.


27 posted on 05/11/2012 9:45:03 AM PDT by dfwgator (Don't wake up in a roadside ditch. Get rid of Romney.)
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To: fabian
Yes, the sodomite abortionists are sooo caring and loving. Photobucket Are you on Drugs?
28 posted on 05/11/2012 9:45:25 AM PDT by Jim from C-Town (The government is rarely benevolent, often malevolent and never benign!)
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To: Idaho_Cowboy
I wrote that this happens all too often, and it does. A caricature, thanks for the spelling, is an exxagetted and inaccurate example of a type of person, no?
This is what I see being done at times...by Rush when he rants on and on about the left, sort of hyper. Not like the old happy Rush when he began years ago. Or when Hannity goes on and no and on , so irritated, which reflects in his tone, about Obama..with so little spoken about the real examples daily of how lower taxes has helped so many people to grow businesses and such. And Jesse Lee Peterson, who is a small talk show many probably do not know of, goes on air and tells people that women taking over positions of power are a big reason for our downfall...latter changing it to only liberal women...no mention of the men who opened those doors to them! And how blacks many blacks should go back on the plantations to learn a work ethic. I am not making that up!
I love Walter Williams and and how Reagan expressed our ideas. real grace as well as strength there. Roy Masters has that too in late night radio. This is missing in many good shows and is the point of my post.
29 posted on 05/11/2012 9:49:20 AM PDT by fabian (" And a new day will dawn for those who stand long, and the forests will echo with laughter")
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To: GSWarrior

No, but he is a good example of what I am talking about. Hannity can be at times too, with his monotonous diatribes. Micheal Savage also....I no longer listen to Micheal as he goes nuts too much.


30 posted on 05/11/2012 9:52:55 AM PDT by fabian (" And a new day will dawn for those who stand long, and the forests will echo with laughter")
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To: Jim from C-Town
You just don't get it...I am talking about something that is missing from many on our side. Of course we are more correct than the leftists, but often not by much. The far right and the far left often have the same darkness working in their minds.
31 posted on 05/11/2012 10:02:11 AM PDT by fabian (" And a new day will dawn for those who stand long, and the forests will echo with laughter")
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To: fabian

Dead from the neck up and this is no caricature.

32 posted on 05/11/2012 10:09:48 AM PDT by A.A. Cunningham (Barry Soetoro is a Kenyan communist)
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To: fabian
Well, I see that is where you and many others blow it. Many leftists do indeed have a well meaning agenda to equalize and help people. The problem we all know is that is is the wrong way to help. Obama is one such brainwashed leader and to see him as just trash or an overtly evil man is really making it harder to not resent him and stand up boldly to him and his type.

I think giving tyrants any motives but evil just makes us willing pawns in their game. When you see men like Obama suggest policies that have been tried again and again and failed every time, you certainly have to suspect he has no intention of helping others. Why else does his Aunt live in a slum and his brother live in Kenya in a mud hut. That shows no true compassion. It's easy to be generous with the wealth of others to increase your popularity, that shows only a hunger for power and a wish to enslave others.

Abraham Lincoln said it best, "It is the eternal struggle between two principals right and wrong throughout the world.It is the same spirit that says you toil and work and earn bread and I'll eat it. No matter in what shape it comes, whether from the mouth of a king who seeks to bestride the people of his own nation and live by the fruit of their labor or from one race of men as an apology for enslaving another race. It is the same tyrannical principle."

It's a matter of world view. I'm a devout Christian, the good book makes it clear that God stands on the side of Liberty and the Devil on the side of Tyranny. If you don't think their is a force behind the evil in this nation and others, read the tenth Chapter of Daniel. "Where the spirit of the Lord is, there is Liberty." II Corinthians 3:17.

Every great dictator has claimed to tyrannize his subjects for the greater good. Hitler claimed to have the best interests of the German people at heart, surely you won't say he murdered out of compassion. The socialists and the Satanists claimed to have the best interests of the people at heart, did they? Barrack Obama and many politicians today make the same claims for the people and I don't believe it. I don't care if they are dupes of evil, their actions are evil; and by their fruits I judge them.

33 posted on 05/11/2012 10:12:27 AM PDT by Idaho_Cowboy (Ride for the Brand. Joshua 24:15)
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To: fabian
If you truly believe that our side is more correct, but often not by much, than I am concerned that you may be delusional.

In what way are we ever not significantly more correct, rational, well spoken, more coherent and more factually based?
When?
When someone who deals with the Leftist twits regularly, on a daily basis shows emotion when dressing down the Statists? Remember, these hosts and media people are out numbered 100 - 1. The Leftists call them racist, homophobic and evil, DAILY.!

These are the same people who prop up the evil of people like George Tiller, The insanity of Nancy Pelosi, the wild eyed rantings of Al Gore.

Please, You are the one that doesn't “Get It”

Our side is incredibly controlled.

34 posted on 05/11/2012 10:39:44 AM PDT by Jim from C-Town (The government is rarely benevolent, often malevolent and never benign!)
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To: Idaho_Cowboy
Nope, you are not correct. Evil masquerades as goodness in many many people, especially those on the left. Obama and his ilk have been brainwashed in the mind controlling institutes called present day colleges and to see that force of evil working in their minds actually helps a lot in standing boldly against them. It is resentment for people that makes us ineffective, but when we can really see evil working in their minds, we want to actually fight them to free them too, if at all possible!
I was once told by a reverend that this type of thinking will make me venerable to the left, but he could not see for some reasons of hardness, that it is actually very much the opposite. Remember, Jesus said to love our enemies, and it is love to see them also as victims to some degree of evil spirits. That does not let them of the hook, as we ALL have moments of awakening that could lead us to salvation. So let's help be those moments in people’s lives, even leftist types. There are many of them that have converted to conservatism.
And yes, to some degree Hitler had a grand motive of a thousand years of glory. He was totally possessed by evil...a sociopath type that took pleasure also out of having power over people.
35 posted on 05/11/2012 10:42:57 AM PDT by fabian (" And a new day will dawn for those who stand long, and the forests will echo with laughter")
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To: fabian

oops, I need to edit better...ALL too often..and CARICATURE!


36 posted on 05/11/2012 10:44:16 AM PDT by fabian (" And a new day will dawn for those who stand long, and the forests will echo with laughter")
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To: Jim from C-Town
This is why I put up the site www.copingstrategiescd.com..because I know the assault that is being waged. But we need to really see how evil is working in the left and often in the right too! It, the evil, wants us to be stressed and constantly irritated and haranguing about them, just like Sean often does. It wants us away from our very real and bright ideas. Walter Wiliams is a great example of a good talk show host who does not get so off point and articulates the brightness of the right so well and gracefully.
I think you are being really defensive. Our side needs real corrections to at times!
37 posted on 05/11/2012 10:50:51 AM PDT by fabian (" And a new day will dawn for those who stand long, and the forests will echo with laughter")
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To: fabian

I am not too sure we need correction. What we need is a concerted effort to save the country.

We are not the problem in America today!


38 posted on 05/11/2012 10:58:15 AM PDT by Jim from C-Town (The government is rarely benevolent, often malevolent and never benign!)
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To: Jim from C-Town

ok, well I see some do need it. And if we are not humble to take correction, then we become rather ineffective in our very real battle.

I have been treated as the enemy by some for my persistent views on this real hardness that exists as a result of some right wing leaders falling into the irritable mode trap, but I don’t care. I will keep it up as I see fit, as well as being honest about the socialist destruction of our once free nation. We are almost gone, but I know we will make it. May take Jesus to return, I do not know.


39 posted on 05/11/2012 11:07:10 AM PDT by fabian (" And a new day will dawn for those who stand long, and the forests will echo with laughter")
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To: fabian

bump!


40 posted on 05/11/2012 11:59:23 AM PDT by fabian (" And a new day will dawn for those who stand long, and the forests will echo with laughter")
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