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RED Christmas: What to expect if Obama loses (VANITY)
Self | May 12, 2012 | Junior_G

Posted on 05/12/2012 8:32:05 AM PDT by Junior_G

The latest Rasmussen polls suggest that Obama's extensive record of accomplishment might not be enough to earn him another 4 years in the White House. Unfortunately, a defeat in November would still leave him with 2 1/2 months to do as much damage as possible before he leaves office
I'd like to throw a question out to my fellow FReepers:

What is Obama likely to do with his remaining power in order to "fundamentally transform" the United States? Will he be held back in any way by concerns over how the country views him afterward? Whereas Bill Clinton was obsessed with his legacy, I think Obama is more obsessed with achieving his leftist goals by any means necessary--legacy be damned.

A few ideas:

1) More Unreciprocated Concessions to Russia - This will surprise no one since our Quisling-in-Chief already telegraphed an upcoming betrayal in his "hot mic" moment with Medvedev. - MODERATELY LIKELY

2) Packing the Supreme Court - Some trial balloons have been floated around this one lately, but I think that's too audacious even for Obama. - UNLIKELY

3) Worst Pardons Ever - Leftist cretins shouting "Free Mumia!" are likely to get their wish from an embittered, racist President spending his final few days in office. Expect some of the worst people in the world to receive their Get out of Jail Free card in January 2013 - HIGHLY LIKELY


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I know I'm not even scratching the surface of what this clown might do. But I'm curious what you all think.
1 posted on 05/12/2012 8:32:10 AM PDT by Junior_G
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There’s no way he can pack the Supreme Court. It would take an act of Congress to increase the size of the Supreme Court, and that’s not going to happen.


2 posted on 05/12/2012 8:34:49 AM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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To: Junior_G

The latest Rasmussen polls suggest that Obama’s extensive record of accomplishment might not be enough to earn him another 4 years in the White Hous

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3 posted on 05/12/2012 8:35:45 AM PDT by molson209
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To: Junior_G

Whatever he can do with an executive order, he will do.

I’ve heard that “gay” groups are pushing for an executive order to ban “discrimination” among federal contractors, for example. If there is any subject on which he can imprint a liberal policy without Congress he will do so on the way out the door.

He will issue controversial pardons on the way out. Presidents tend to do so. Remember Bill Clinton and all his pardons on the evening and morning of Jan. 19-20, 2001? He was up late at night in the Oval Office on his last full day in office, issuing pardons. I would expect no less of Obama.


4 posted on 05/12/2012 8:39:25 AM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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Definitely, Worst Pardons Ever - A lame duck Obummer would pardon all blacks, Mooslims, drug criminals, etc.
5 posted on 05/12/2012 8:40:20 AM PDT by TRY ONE (Obummer: The economy sucks......might as well go play golf)
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To: Dilbert San Diego
There’s no way he can pack the Supreme Court. It would take an act of Congress to increase the size of the Supreme Court, and that’s not going to happen.

Shows what I know. Glad that particular option is out of his reach.

6 posted on 05/12/2012 8:40:37 AM PDT by Junior_G (Funny how liberals' love affair with Muslims began on 9/11)
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To: Junior_G
Hillary has already resurrected the "Rights of the Child" treaty. This treaty will allow individuals to sue for more welfare payments, and foreign governments to sue for more foreign aid. The plan is for the lame-duck senate to pass it and Barack will sign it. From then on, all US money belongs to the world.

http://www.dickmorris.com/obama-will-make-welfare-and-foreign-aid-mandatory-dick-morris-tv-lunch-alert/

7 posted on 05/12/2012 8:41:09 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Do I really need a sarcasm tag? Seriously? You're that dense?)
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To: Junior_G
2.5, He may not be able to pack SCOTUS without retirements, but he also can nominate for all the federal courts. I'm sure he'll take every opportunity to fill these with recess appointments. Oh, you took off for lunch, recess, 10 more appointments..
8 posted on 05/12/2012 8:41:16 AM PDT by mnehring
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To: Junior_G
If Obama loses the election he will declare Martial Law and arrest all the Electors of Electoral College will be arrested and taken some unknown location “for their protection” so that they cannot vote.

With no vote of the Electoral College, Obama will name himself President pro tempore of the United States.

In this case “pro tempore” means life.

9 posted on 05/12/2012 8:43:41 AM PDT by Mikey_1962 (Obama: The Affirmative Action President.)
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To: Dilbert San Diego
Remember Bill Clinton and all his pardons on the evening and morning of Jan. 19-20, 2001?

I do...a lot of politically connected Dem slime balls got out of prison. I expect Obama's to be based a lot more on ideology than corrupt connections.

10 posted on 05/12/2012 8:44:07 AM PDT by Junior_G (Funny how liberals' love affair with Muslims began on 9/11)
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To: Junior_G

The Kenyan lizard can do nothing that will persist after his admin. Executive orders can be rescinded. Congress will pass nothing. The worse he can do is commute prison terms.


11 posted on 05/12/2012 8:45:34 AM PDT by y6162
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To: molson209

Yes, he has taken some truly impressive vacations. In that regard alone he stands head~n~shoulders above any of his predecessors.


12 posted on 05/12/2012 8:49:40 AM PDT by rockrr (Everything is different now...)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
Hillary has already resurrected the "Rights of the Child" treaty. This treaty will allow individuals to sue for more welfare payments, and foreign governments to sue for more foreign aid.

This particular bit of insanity is something I hadn't heard of. Thanks for dimming my outlook further.

13 posted on 05/12/2012 8:50:51 AM PDT by Junior_G (Funny how liberals' love affair with Muslims began on 9/11)
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To: y6162
The Kenyan lizard can do nothing that will persist after his admin. Executive orders can be rescinded. Congress will pass nothing. The worse he can do is commute prison terms.

What about treaties?

14 posted on 05/12/2012 8:52:53 AM PDT by Junior_G (Funny how liberals' love affair with Muslims began on 9/11)
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To: y6162
The Kenyan lizard can do nothing that will persist after his admin. Executive orders can be rescinded. Congress will pass nothing. The worse he can do is commute prison terms.

The lame-duck senate can ratify treaties and he can sign them.

Hillary has already resurrected "The Rights of the Child" treaty, and it is in the works.

http://www.dickmorris.com/obama-will-make-welfare-and-foreign-aid-mandatory-dick-morris-tv-lunch-alert/

15 posted on 05/12/2012 8:54:42 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Do I really need a sarcasm tag? Seriously? You're that dense?)
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To: Junior_G

And that’s just a few things obama might do. I’m more afraid that we’re going to have to deal with an enraged leftie voting block. They had their big chance and they blew it all the way around, but are they going to be gracious and hand the power to us? I highly doubt it.


16 posted on 05/12/2012 8:54:54 AM PDT by bergmeid
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To: y6162

Any last minute ‘’pardons’’ could run the risk of being subject to street justice.

Just sayin’.


17 posted on 05/12/2012 8:55:36 AM PDT by Thumper1960 (A modern so-called "Conservative" is a shadow of a wisp of a vertebrate human being.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

The lame-duck senate can ratify treaties and he can sign them.

Rat faced Reid doesn’t have the votes to end a filibuster.


18 posted on 05/12/2012 8:57:26 AM PDT by y6162
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To: bergmeid

I suspect the potential for Leftwing, Liberal violence is extremely high.
It will be the Left which initiates bloodshed. The mass media will enable it. The Left leaders will tacitly encourage it. Those of us targeted will have to be careful with what level of defense we employ.


19 posted on 05/12/2012 9:00:31 AM PDT by Thumper1960 (A modern so-called "Conservative" is a shadow of a wisp of a vertebrate human being.)
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To: Junior_G

What do you mean, “leave office”?


20 posted on 05/12/2012 9:06:55 AM PDT by Larry - Moe and Curly (Loose lips sink ships.)
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To: Junior_G
Rioting, calls of racist white America by Sharpton, Jackson,and both of the Obama's, the burning of ghettos, and all around general mayhem perpetrated by the black panther party.

Get ready people cause it won't be pretty. We need to armend to the teeth.

21 posted on 05/12/2012 9:09:42 AM PDT by skimask
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

From an article in the National Ledger.com by Cliff Kincaid (editor of Accuracy in Media) Feb 12, 2008, info about the Convention on the Rights of the Child was frightening...part of the Millennium Declaration, and further readings in other areas made it sound like the rights of children would usurp the rights of their PARENTS!!

“The Millennium Declaration also affirms the U.N. as ‘the indispensable common house of the entire human family, through which we will —realize our universal aspirations for peace, cooperation and development.’...(and tell parents they have NO rights when raising their children.)

But, of course, even after knowing this, we didn’t vote for Bath-House Barry because he was black. (sarc.)

Dickie Lugar had a great deal to do with this “bill”. Glad he got booted!


22 posted on 05/12/2012 9:10:07 AM PDT by Mortrey (Impeach President Soros)
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To: Dilbert San Diego

Anything done by EO can be undone by EO by the next president.


23 posted on 05/12/2012 9:10:12 AM PDT by rabidralph
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To: Dilbert San Diego

The pardons are what worry me. I expect him to pardon every suspected illegal alien from their crime of entry, freeing them from prosecution for illegal entry. He’ll also forgive those who have overstayed their visas, maybe trying to issue blanket extensions.


24 posted on 05/12/2012 9:13:24 AM PDT by Sgt_Schultze (A half-truth is a complete lie)
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To: TRY ONE

Hmmm. I wonder if pardoning the violent thugs and drug criminals would restore voting rights to a solid block of potential and unanimously liberal voters.


25 posted on 05/12/2012 9:15:40 AM PDT by Sgt_Schultze (A half-truth is a complete lie)
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To: y6162
Rat faced Reid doesn’t have the votes to end a filibuster.

If there is one.

26 posted on 05/12/2012 9:21:27 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Do I really need a sarcasm tag? Seriously? You're that dense?)
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To: Junior_G
Can Obama pardon Mumia? Does his pardon authority extend to local criminal cases?

There are a couple of dangerous treaties which the Senate may try to ratify this summer (Law of the Sea and others)--once they are ratified, they can't be un-ratified. We have to be vigilant on these since they can't get through without a fair number of Republican Senators voting for them.

27 posted on 05/12/2012 9:23:17 AM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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To: Mikey_1962

I agree. And don’t expect Congress or the Courts to stop him. Of course, moat of them will also be taken somewhere “for their protection.”


28 posted on 05/12/2012 9:27:49 AM PDT by fatnotlazy
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To: Mikey_1962

Martial law? ‘Present’ for life?

Those actions would bode very poorly for anyone driving a car with a bho bumper sticker, TSA agents, feds at any level.


29 posted on 05/12/2012 9:30:04 AM PDT by Tahoe3002
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To: Mikey_1962

Well, I’d like to see what the NY Times & WAPO would have to say about that.

Seriesly, if he pardons cop killer Mumia no white person should ever vote democrat again.


30 posted on 05/12/2012 9:32:17 AM PDT by jocon307
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To: Junior_G
3) Worst Pardons Ever -

Empty Club Gitmo.

31 posted on 05/12/2012 9:32:35 AM PDT by Doomonyou (Let them eat Lead.)
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To: Junior_G

Two words, “Scorched Earth”


32 posted on 05/12/2012 9:34:40 AM PDT by dfwgator (Don't wake up in a roadside ditch. Get rid of Romney.)
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To: Verginius Rufus

“Does his pardon authority extend to local criminal cases?”

Sure, I think the president can pardon anybody. Not sure if he could pardon a person convicted of treason, but other than that, yes.

Most people that get presidential pardons are convicted on a state level, I don’t think there are all the many federal offenders.

I don’t know why presidents aren’t ever asked to issue pardons on death penalty cases. I remember the yammering about the woman executed in Tx, but I think that might have happened after Bush was elected but before he left office as Gov. of Texas, or maybe it was that he was being asked to use his influence on the next gov.

I don’t remember, maybe somebody will ‘splain it to us.


33 posted on 05/12/2012 9:36:55 AM PDT by jocon307
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To: Junior_G

“What about treaties?”

He can make all the treaties he wants, w/o Senate ratification, they are worthless.


34 posted on 05/12/2012 9:38:13 AM PDT by FrogMom (There is no such thing as an honest democrat!)
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To: Junior_G

You will have more need of a firearm and ammunition if he loses than if he wins. The civil unrest that will follow an Obama defeat will last a lot longer than 2-1/2 months and will make most cities uninhabitable for non-black citizens. The unrest will be confabulated to indicate that his loss was racially motivated. Take cover.


35 posted on 05/12/2012 9:39:59 AM PDT by muir_redwoods (I like Obamacare because Granny signed the will and I need the cash)
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To: jocon307

The President has no pardon or commutation power over state convicts such as Mumia.

He can’t pardon or commute illegal immigrants because their breach is civil, not criminal, but he could grant widespread relief from civil proceedings (including pre-removal detention) which a subsequent President might have difficulty reinstituting, practically or otherwise.

A raft of recess appointments to fill vacancies in the federal courts are certainly a possibility, but the damage potential is limited simply because few credible candidates would take so poisoned a seat. (Two or three strong candidates from states with two Democrat Senators is more likely, since they’d have a good chance at renomination by Romney in the typical distribution of judicial spoils.)


36 posted on 05/12/2012 9:51:57 AM PDT by only1percent
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To: jocon307

I believe that the president’s pardon power only extends to federal crimes.


37 posted on 05/12/2012 9:57:15 AM PDT by BIV (typical white person)
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To: Dilbert San Diego

Even if there is an executive order, Romney will overturn it on day one.


38 posted on 05/12/2012 10:08:12 AM PDT by Hildy ("When the debate is lost, slander becomes the tool of the loser." - SocratesHill not text while dri)
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To: Dilbert San Diego

Even if there is an executive order, Romney will overturn it on day one.


39 posted on 05/12/2012 10:08:12 AM PDT by Hildy ("When the debate is lost, slander becomes the tool of the loser." - SocratesHill not text while dri)
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To: Junior_G

Vacation, vacation, and more vacations. Lots of traveling and preparing to access all the billions stashed away in offshore accounts. If it looks like he will certainly lose, look for him to dump Biden at the last minute and put Hillary in there, if she’s stupid enough to do it. I believe she is.
These commies didn’t come this close only to lose it all before their work is done. They will do anything, lie, cheat, steal, create a false flag..... anything.


40 posted on 05/12/2012 10:12:30 AM PDT by mojitojoe (American by birth. Southern by the grace of God. Conservative by reason and logic.)
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To: only1percent; BIV

“The President has no pardon or commutation power over state convicts such as Mumia.”

Well, I did not know that. Thanks for straightening me out.


41 posted on 05/12/2012 10:23:39 AM PDT by jocon307
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To: jocon307

News to me as well. It’s always nice to find out a fear is unfounded.


42 posted on 05/12/2012 10:27:21 AM PDT by Junior_G (Funny how liberals' love affair with Muslims began on 9/11)
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To: Junior_G
Obama's extensive record of accomplishment destruction
43 posted on 05/12/2012 10:29:56 AM PDT by rawcatslyentist ("Behold, I am against you, O arrogant one," Jeremiah 50:31)
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To: Junior_G

Small arms treaty with the UN.


44 posted on 05/12/2012 10:35:49 AM PDT by SaraJohnson
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To: Mikey_1962

If Obama cancelled the election it would be the start of CW II, as states leave the union to form a new nation the CSA (Constitutional States of America) Texas would lead the way—Houston the new capital. Civil War would end the USA as a great power—and usher in a new world—maybe a better one.


45 posted on 05/12/2012 10:45:36 AM PDT by Forward the Light Brigade (Into the Jaws of H*ll)
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To: Junior_G

I’m sure he’ll be packing...clothes and personal items for the move.


46 posted on 05/12/2012 11:01:38 AM PDT by stuartcr ("When silence speaks, it speaks only to those that have already decided what they want to hear.")
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To: Verginius Rufus
once they are ratified, they can't be un-ratified

Perhaps not, but they sure as hell can be ignored! How's the UN going to enforce sanction's? Send in the "Blue Beret's"? What are a dozen troops from Sri lanka going to do, open a 7/11? If them try to fine us we just stop paying dues, that will make them stop and think.

US out of UN
UN out of US!
GtG

47 posted on 05/12/2012 11:07:29 AM PDT by Gandalf_The_Gray (I live in my own little world, I like it 'cuz they know me here.)
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To: Gandalf_The_Gray
No more Banana Republic BS.....dump the hump! DSC_0081sm
48 posted on 05/12/2012 11:24:30 AM PDT by Fred911 (YOU GET WHAT YOU ACCEPT)
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To: muir_redwoods

My experience with the black community, both in Chicago and elsewhere, suggests your fears are unfounded. Yes, there have been episodic acts of interracial violence, and there is an undertow of long-simmering malice. But many blacks are simply not radicalized enough to stage a full scale “Armageddon” over some failed Chicago pol, even if he is the first (or second) black president. The economic low end is preoccupied with the daily struggles of life in the hood, and the more well off are preoccupied with jobs and families like everyone else. The drive to do the work of a real revolution, with all the personal pain and privation that entails, simply isn’t there in any but a handful of hardcore militant activists, far less than the critical mass required for serious societal destabilization.

So if there IS a big disruption, the seeming beginnings of a real race war, I guarantee you, it will have been manufactured at some level. Not saying there wouldn’t be sympathizers in the black community, but most would rather watch it on tv than be part of it. Our objective should be to give them nothing to watch.


49 posted on 05/12/2012 11:48:54 AM PDT by Springfield Reformer (Winston Churchill: No Peace Till Victory!)
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To: Springfield Reformer

If only 1% of the urban black population takes up arms or otherwise seeks to create chaos, our cities would be unlivable. If AG Holder decides to let it slide for 2-1/2 months it might be a long time before it’s fixed.


50 posted on 05/12/2012 12:03:51 PM PDT by muir_redwoods (I like Obamacare because Granny signed the will and I need the cash)
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