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WE MUST FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST THE INVASION OF THE REPUBLICAN PARTY BY THE ROMNEYZOMBIES
May 18, 2012 | GoldenEagles

Posted on 05/18/2012 7:10:07 AM PDT by GoldenEagles

WE MUST FIGHT THE GOOD
FIGHT AGAINST THIS INVASION
OF THE REPUBLICAN PARTY
BY THE ROMNEYZOMBIES

In a comment to the author of this thread, and speaking to the subject of Libertarianism, I commented in this vein that, "Republicans don't need a Libertarian to tell them that Romney is ripping the very heart of the Republican Conscience right out of the body of the Republican Party." (source)

The Reagan Conscience to be precise.

The moment that idea formed in my mind, I remembered this dramatic scene from "The Matrix" movie series, where "Agent Smith", who represents an agent of darkness and slavery, had thrust his hand into the heart of "Neo" the movie's hero, for the purpose of converting him to another mind-numbing agent of the darkside, and I remembered the special effects were superb, and that this scene would serve as a very dramatic metaphor for what is going on in the Republican Party today.

I share this scene here, for the purpose of offering some encouragement to what appears to be the embattled minority, to continue to stand our ground in a determined manner, with the hope of victory blazing brightly at the center of the mind's eye, to block the RomneyZombies efforts to take over the Republican Party.

In the screen-captured image below, you see where Agent Smith has thrust his hand into Neo's heart, and the darkness is spreading out throughout his whole body, and is nearly consuming him, but he gathers together his inner strength (which can only come from his strong belief in, faith in, and trust in God) and drives the darkness back. This scene is about 2:50 into the clip. Be ready to turn up the volume on your system as the sound track in this clip is very low, and you need to hear every word spoken before the major fight scene begins.

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See how Neo resists the taking over of his heart, yet he still has a battle to fight. And it is a dramatic battle too. The battle ebbs and flows, for a moment victory seems certain, the next moment defeat seems certain, the next moment the hope of victory bursts alive again, and then it is dashed again as more Agent Smiths arrive on the scene.

Of course it is all allegory. The circle he draws around himself in the end, is an allegory for God.

The moral of the story, is that while you must fight, while you must defend your core priorities in God, you cannot win without the Power of God which you cannot access without obedience to His Laws. That is the symbolism of the circle. It is the circle of the Law, the circle of God-Reality, that is where victory and freedom reside.

And yes, to surrender your purpose to the darkside, the purpose that God has placed in your heart, is to die.

The significance of Agent Smith's initial dialog, is in the fact that the dark side will adapt to the appearance of a real threat, and use deception to get the individual to lower his guard, allowing the enemy to gain access to the heart of the opponent, i.e. to his priority system.

This interesting capacity of Agent Smith to endlessly replicate himself speaks to this phenomena of the darkside capturing the hearts of more and more members of the Republican Party, making them into RomneyZombies, totally unthinking, though stubborn, and relentless, adherents to their leader, Willard M. Romney.

Does it phase them in the least that they bow and scrape before a man whose first name is also the title of a horror movie where the nemesis releases an army of rats on his enemies? No. Everybody will remember Bloody Thursday in exactly that way, except them.

The people who have truth still in their hearts, they must defend it. They must fight off the Agent Smiths. And they must come to terms with the source of their true inner strength, which is the Power of God through the intercession of the Lord Christ, whose universal desire and purpose is to raise each Child of God into the domain of Sonship under God, to thus empower them unto the victory in this ongoing battle between the forces of good and evil.

If that power does not start flowing through them now, as it did through Neo for the victory, the soul of the Republican Party will be lost.

The story of Neo is the story of a regular person, drawn into a great battle for freedom, who has to come to terms with who he really is, a Child of God, Heir to the Kingdom, and the representive of the Most High in the earth, with the power to match. Yes, Neo has to figure out what it really means to believe.



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Please take a moment to watch this video clip. It provides a great framework for understanding what is going on in the Republican Party today.
1 posted on 05/18/2012 7:10:18 AM PDT by GoldenEagles
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To: GoldenEagles

absolutely, lets all go out and vote for the communist Obama.


2 posted on 05/18/2012 7:14:14 AM PDT by FreeAtlanta (Liberty and Justice for ALL)
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To: FreeAtlanta

“absolutely, lets all go out and vote for the communist Obama.”

Couldn’t agree more! Nothing like a good hard core communist to fix things. Imagine America is ill, Obama is the cancer. What do you do? More Obama! We’ll just kill the patient and hope for a resurrection.


3 posted on 05/18/2012 7:17:21 AM PDT by brownsfan (Aldous Huxley and Mike Judge were right.)
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To: brownsfan

the doi does mention dumping the old system and starting from scratch...why try to fix a broken system...freedom lost is lost forever...to keep on doing the same bs over and over is...what did that little guy call it...???


4 posted on 05/18/2012 7:25:17 AM PDT by gunnyg ("A Constitution changed from Freedom, can never be restored; Liberty, once lost, is lost forever...)
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To: GoldenEagles

The recurring problem with the “Romney? NEVER!” crowd (which I was a part of) is that they don’t address the greater problem for which Romney is the only viable (however undesirable) solution to. They never say “Obama is better”, and “neither” isn’t a viable option ‘cuz we’re gonna end up with one of the two.

Let me try this analogy:
Would you consent to getting knocked out, having your ribcage broken open, your heart pulled from your chest, and arteries severed by strangers? He11 no! You’d be _crazy_ to consent to such a thing.
Except I did. The alternative to that was congestive heart failure.

The “Romney? NEVER!” crowd, while they have piles of valid points I wholly agree with, is not addressing the “congestive heart failure” our nation will suffer if we don’t choose him.

If Romney doesn’t get more votes than Obama, we get something worse than Romney. If you don’t vote for Romney, that’s one less vote adding up to beating the less desirable incumbent. Yeah, you’re not voting for either, we get that ... but we’re gonna get the O if you don’t.


5 posted on 05/18/2012 7:25:35 AM PDT by ctdonath2 (Cloud storage? Dropbox rocks! Sign up at http://db.tt/nQqWGd3 for 2GB free (and I get more too).)
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To: GoldenEagles

Too late.

Conservatives are the RINOs now. The party as a whole doesn’t want our values, our thoughts.

All they want is our money and our votes, and for us to shut the hell up and fall in line.

And like a co-dependent, abused wife, who is told; “You got no place else to go, and you are too dumb to make it on your own.” most of us will do just that.

(not I)


6 posted on 05/18/2012 7:26:08 AM PDT by LegendHasIt
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To: ctdonath2
but we’re gonna get the O if you don’t.

So... it's the same old republican line once again... "You've GOTTA vote for me, 'cause you don't want that OTHER guy!!!" So, say we vote for the republican.. once again.. then what?

Oh, yeah.... it'll be: "You've GOTTA vote for me, 'cause you don't want that OTHER guy!!!"

7 posted on 05/18/2012 7:42:00 AM PDT by ScottinVA (Buying Drain-O requires photo I.D... yet voting doesn't???)
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To: LegendHasIt
Conservatives are the RINOs now. The party as a whole doesn’t want our values, our thoughts.

Except for the word "now", you are 100% correct. I used a similar sentence as a tag a few years back and was excoriated for it, so be ready....the flames are coming.

8 posted on 05/18/2012 7:44:53 AM PDT by Roccus
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To: FreeAtlanta

What those of the Republican Party who are not followers of Christ do not understand is that as a follower, it is impossible for us to stand before the Savior who died for us and explain how we could publicly support someone who is a liar, has the blood of the innocent unborn on his hands, and supports homosexuality, which our Lord God hates.

Not an option.


9 posted on 05/18/2012 7:48:29 AM PDT by huldah1776
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To: ScottinVA

You got a better option?

No, you don’t.

Yes, I know “vote for R or you’ll get O” sucks. I am very familiar and sympathetic with the reasoning. I also know that O is that much worse.

If we get Mitt, we’ll then struggle to swing him to the right. That’s better than struggling to keep the nation intact and out of CWII.

And ... you make my point again. You’re so bent out of shape about Mitt that you fail to address the incumbent whom Mitt is the only hope of dislodging - and the grave importance of doing so.


10 posted on 05/18/2012 7:48:29 AM PDT by ctdonath2 (Cloud storage? Dropbox rocks! Sign up at http://db.tt/nQqWGd3 for 2GB free (and I get more too).)
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To: ctdonath2

Superb analogy!

I actually started a thread here to provoke a positive discussion on how we might reform the delegate allocation process to make it more friendly to the GOP base.

You can go there and see the results. About one third of the posters even wanted to discuss the topic. The remaining two-thirds wanted to p*ss and moan about the latest RINO wing nominee.

And we wonder why we are losing.

By my count, the RINO wing of the GOP has chosen every nominee in the post World War II era except for three: Goldwater (1964) and Reagan (1980 and 1984).

And we act like it is the exception and not the rule.

Too many self-proclaimed conservatives are focused on p*ssing and moaning about the latest RINO wing offering rather than reforming the process to make sure states which actually deliver electoral votes to the GOP in the fall have more to say about who we select as the nominee. We have a golden opportunity to reform the process now, but the whiners would rather p*ss and moan about the latest RINO nominee instead.

And we wonder why we are losing.

11 posted on 05/18/2012 7:49:23 AM PDT by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: huldah1776

God views ALL as equal sinners.

You’re not going to give up voting entirely forever, are you?


12 posted on 05/18/2012 7:50:29 AM PDT by ctdonath2 (Cloud storage? Dropbox rocks! Sign up at http://db.tt/nQqWGd3 for 2GB free (and I get more too).)
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To: ctdonath2
If we get Mitt, we’ll then struggle to swing him to the right. That’s better than struggling to keep the nation intact and out of CWII.

Excellent point.

13 posted on 05/18/2012 7:53:18 AM PDT by exit82 (Democrats are the enemies of freedom. Be Andrew Breitbart.)
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To: GoldenEagles
This election was lost to conservatives not when Romney won, but when no viable conservative showed up at the beginning of the primaries.

You can't win with nobody....

14 posted on 05/18/2012 7:56:07 AM PDT by Last Dakotan
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To: GoldenEagles

See Sig....


15 posted on 05/18/2012 7:58:12 AM PDT by Waywardson (If you fear Obama..... vote for Romney. If you fear God... DON'T !)
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To: ctdonath2
You got a better option?

The answer is NO. They do not have a better option.

But trying to get them to admit that Obama is therefore their default choice is near impossible.

Only those who argue that the end of the American Republic is near and that we might has well accelerate the process by electing Obama have a rational, albeit insane, position. They are, in effect, looking forward to a successful Civil War that will restore Constitutional Government. I view that as a fantasy at least at this point in time.

But most just beg off with some nonsense about Romney not having the nomination sewed up yet.

16 posted on 05/18/2012 7:58:16 AM PDT by InterceptPoint (TIN)
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To: huldah1776

You’ve said it all perfectly, but the Romney fans won’t hear you, I’m afraid. They are crippled by their fear.


17 posted on 05/18/2012 8:02:14 AM PDT by Tau Food (Trust God. Reject Obama. Reject Romney. Reject all evil.)
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To: ctdonath2
"If we get Mitt, we’ll then struggle to swing him to the right."

I keep hearing that from good people forced into a hopeless situation.

Just one question: How? Writing letters? Posts on internet forums?

Beyond sending as many real conservatives to House & Senate as possible, I'd like to hear one practical and legal way to force a President to pay attention to people that he doesn't much like.

18 posted on 05/18/2012 8:03:33 AM PDT by LegendHasIt
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To: GoldenEagles
A good friend once described the condition of this country as:

The toilet has been flushed, the water is circling. Who you vote for will either speed the circling or slow the circling.

The water in the bowl will still swirl; the toilet still completes its flush.

That's just one theory, anyway.

19 posted on 05/18/2012 8:06:49 AM PDT by liege (I'll pay more for tomatoes, thank you.)
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To: ctdonath2
If we get Mitt, we’ll then struggle to swing him to the right. That’s better than struggling to keep the nation intact and out of CWII.

Great post, ctdonath2! It's so damn obvious...

20 posted on 05/18/2012 8:09:08 AM PDT by nutmeg (So... Clinton was our first black president, and Obama is our first gay president?)
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To: Roccus

Yeah, McCain was the absolute last straw for me. I had kind of hoped that they would have learned their lesson from that, but no, they had to double down on ‘Sucks just slightly less than the Democrat.’ as a strategy.


21 posted on 05/18/2012 8:11:37 AM PDT by LegendHasIt
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To: LegendHasIt
Just one question: How? ... I'd like to hear one practical and legal way to force a President to pay attention to people that he doesn't much like.

We'll deal with that when the time comes. Yes, we may not have a satisfying answer to that very valid question. Right now, however, the issue is ensuring that we don't instead end up with a President he11-bent on eviscerating the Constitution, stacking the Supreme Court with Communists, ... and otherwise making it impossible or pointless to send as many real conservatives to House & Senate as possible. I'd rather a President who merely doesn't like us, than a President who sees us as the opposition in a literal & hot class/race war.

22 posted on 05/18/2012 8:12:32 AM PDT by ctdonath2 (Cloud storage? Dropbox rocks! Sign up at http://db.tt/nQqWGd3 for 2GB free (and I get more too).)
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To: GoldenEagles

I’m sorry, but these folks have it backward. The Tea Party is the challenger.

The GOP is the party of the Rombots. With few hiccups it has ALWAYS been a party of Rombot-like creatures. There were a few wonderful exceptions, like Goldwater and Reagan, but aside from that, if you look carefully, most of the Presidential Republican candidates were an awful lot like Romney.


23 posted on 05/18/2012 8:15:18 AM PDT by Little Ray (FOR the best Conservative in the Primary; AGAINST Obama in the General.)
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To: ScottinVA; Jeff Head
The suicidal tendencies of some are astonishing to witness at FR of late.

Tell us how you tantrum troops believe there will be an America where some new conservative order will have an opportunity to establish itself as the alternative to the pubbie brand, if little barry bastard commie is allowed four more years to carry out his abortion of the Republic.

The tantrum troops are getting downright disgusting with this alinsky tactics of reverse ridicule over 'fear'. It never occurs to fools like the one who posted this thread that it may not be fear but planning and comprehension of just how bad it really is and how impossible it will be to have a Republic once little barry bastard commie is through doing his masters' work on US and the world!

24 posted on 05/18/2012 8:16:57 AM PDT by MHGinTN (Being deceived can be cured.)
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To: Waywardson
See Sig....

God: "You did nothing, and look at what you got. You could have at least voted for Romney."

25 posted on 05/18/2012 8:16:57 AM PDT by ctdonath2 (Cloud storage? Dropbox rocks! Sign up at http://db.tt/nQqWGd3 for 2GB free (and I get more too).)
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To: Vigilanteman
Remember: Regan looked like a RINO at first. Wouldn'ta gotten in had everyone known what he'd do.
26 posted on 05/18/2012 8:19:03 AM PDT by ctdonath2 (Cloud storage? Dropbox rocks! Sign up at http://db.tt/nQqWGd3 for 2GB free (and I get more too).)
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To: ctdonath2
If we get Mitt, we’ll then struggle to swing him to the right.

Then expect to be disappointed!

27 posted on 05/18/2012 8:21:54 AM PDT by CharacterCounts (A vote for the lesser of two evils only insures the triumph of evil.)
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To: huldah1776

Pure fear mongering bullshyte, and I think you know it! If the crap you’re trying to seel were truth, every time you’ve voted for a flawed politician (and they are all flawed to one degree or several), your calculus would have sunk you and your ilk long ago. It is offensive to have people like you using Christ and God’s Salvation to spittle this default support for re-electing little barry bastard commie by opting out. And you really piss me off whne you try to tie your reasoning to supporting the holocaust of America’s abortion history. It hints that you’re neither Christian nor anti-abortion, just expediency minded.


28 posted on 05/18/2012 8:23:01 AM PDT by MHGinTN (Being deceived can be cured.)
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To: ctdonath2
"We'll deal with that when the time comes."

Great plan.
In other words, there is no way to do it.

"....stacking the Supreme Court with Communists"

On the bright side, the most likely ones that will be replaced are already lefties, so short of some devastatingly bad luck, that ought to be a 'break even'.

And don't forget, that even 0bama can't make a Supreme Court Justice without the Senate, so THERE is where we need a preponderance of Conservatives.

And if we get a preponderance of real conservatives, with some gonads, in the House, they can tie up the purse strings so that 0bama cant actually get much done.

Don't put your hopes and efforts into a weak vessel like Romney. Get good people into Congress

29 posted on 05/18/2012 8:25:29 AM PDT by LegendHasIt
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To: exit82
romney evil
30 posted on 05/18/2012 8:27:35 AM PDT by Waywardson (If you fear Obama..... vote for Romney. If you fear God... DON'T !)
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To: ScottinVA

From So Long, and Thanks for All the Fish by Douglas Adams:


[An extraterrestrial robot and spaceship has just landed on earth. The robot steps out of the spaceship...]

“I come in peace,” it said, adding after a long moment of further grinding, “take me to your Lizard.”

Ford Prefect, of course, had an explanation for this, as he sat with Arthur and watched the nonstop frenetic news reports on television, none of which had anything to say other than to record that the thing had done this amount of damage which was valued at that amount of billions of pounds and had killed this totally other number of people, and then say it again, because the robot was doing nothing more than standing there, swaying very slightly, and emitting short incomprehensible error messages.

“It comes from a very ancient democracy, you see...”

“You mean, it comes from a world of lizards?”

“No,” said Ford, who by this time was a little more rational and coherent than he had been, having finally had the coffee forced down him, “nothing so simple. Nothing anything like to straightforward. On its world, the people are people. The leaders are lizards. The people hate the lizards and the lizards rule the people.”

“Odd,” said Arthur, “I thought you said it was a democracy.”

“I did,” said ford. “It is.”

“So,” said Arthur, hoping he wasn’t sounding ridiculously obtuse, “why don’t the people get rid of the lizards?”

“It honestly doesn’t occur to them,” said Ford. “They’ve all got the vote, so they all pretty much assume that the government they’ve voted in more or less approximates to the government they want.”

“You mean they actually vote for the lizards?”

“Oh yes,” said Ford with a shrug, “of course.”

“But,” said Arthur, going for the big one again, “why?”

“Because if they didn’t vote for a lizard,” said Ford, “the wrong lizard might get in. Got any gin?”

“What?”

“I said,” said Ford, with an increasing air of urgency creeping into his voice, “have you got any gin?”

“I’ll look. Tell me about the lizards.”

Ford shrugged again.

“Some people say that the lizards are the best thing that ever happened to them,” he said. “They’re completely wrong of course, completely and utterly wrong, but someone’s got to say it.”


31 posted on 05/18/2012 8:28:18 AM PDT by ctdonath2 (Cloud storage? Dropbox rocks! Sign up at http://db.tt/nQqWGd3 for 2GB free (and I get more too).)
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To: LegendHasIt
I want an honest answer from one of you obamanoid stealth workers: which people do you suppose ‘a milt rominy president’ or a barry bastard boy president would protect by trying to save the nation from collapse and mayhem, Mormons or the godless mooselimbs little barry bastard commie works for? Stephen Barnard Dunham's strategy to collapse the nation is clear and up and running. With four more years he will succeed and your vote will be a distant memory you will never get to freely exercise again, if you and your family survive the race wars and food raids, power voids, etc..

You are of course aware that barry’s friends are more than willing to incinerate millions of fellow Islamics in and around Israel in order to annihilate that nation, right? Wake up you fool. Stop serving little barry abstard commie.

32 posted on 05/18/2012 8:33:20 AM PDT by MHGinTN (Being deceived can be cured.)
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To: ScottinVA
So... it's the same old republican line once again...

Our chance to bump Romney was during the primaries. We couldn't get it done. That is your fault, my fault and every other conservative's fault for failing to adequately find, nominate, support and CONVINCE enough voters to pull the lever for a better candidate *DURING THE PRIMARIES*.

Now that we are in the General campaign -- presuming you do not want to re-elect Obama -- logic, reasonableness and prudence dictates you must do everything you can for the most viable, opposing candidate. There is no other rational argument. Any other decision is more often blind-emotion and drama-queen hissy-fits, usually hiding behind a faux-claim of making a "principled stand" in the best interest of the country, or some other transparent, churched-up attempt at rationalizing the flawed premise that allowing Obama to be re-elected by not going all out for the most viable challenger is a better option.

Meanwhile, those of us who refuse to quit have to make the difficult decision to keep on fighting with the piss-poor candidate we have and hopefully find and promote a primary challenger to unseat Romney (if he gets elected) at the next election. If you have such a sure-thing candidate, then get him ahead of the GOP's candidate and I'll surely vote for him!! Otherwise, the GOP's candidate will be (like it or not) the most viable candidate opposing Obama.

This time, we had no conservative candidate that possessed the leadership qualities to unite us, so we *CLEARLY* need to do a better job selecting candidates. I don't care who your mystery *BEST-POSSIBLE* candidate is, if he was worth a damn as a leader, we would all be behind him now, united in staunch support. And we aren't. So, every candidate that ran this time? Out of contention for next time as far as I'm concerned. None of them were leaders of sufficient caliber. Doesn't matter the purity of their conservatism if they can't get a voter to vote for them. They all failed to gather a critical mass of support. They failed to convince and sway voters. They. Failed. Period. That's the ugly truth. And I don't want to hear jack-squat about the MSM or the GOP stacking the deck. We will *ALWAYS* have to contend with that foolishness and underhanded dirty-dealing. We need to find candidates that can overcome those obstacles and sway the voters IN SPITE OF IT. It's been done before (Reagan?). Those candidates surely exist, we just have to find & recruit them to run.

You want to change it? we've got four years to get our act together for the next presidential primary season. We all need to make the following decision right now: lead, follow or get the hell out of the way.
33 posted on 05/18/2012 8:36:16 AM PDT by jaydee770
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To: GoldenEagles

ABO! And that means someone who has a shot at winning.

Four more years of Il Douche, and you’ll have breeding pairs of Libertarians in most zoos.


34 posted on 05/18/2012 8:37:13 AM PDT by PzLdr ("The Emperor is not as forgiving as I am" - Darth Vader)
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To: GoldenEagles

Other than not voting (stupid) or voting for the current traitor (beyond insane in this universe) the only choice IMO is to hold your nose and vote for this crap sandwich the GOP is serving us but at the same time work for and vote for as many Tea Party candidates as we can.

IMO that is the only hope to pull, push, nudge, prod Mitt to the right.

With congress’s low approval a mini Tea Party coup is possible and whom ever occupies the White Hut will have to deal with a congress that does not hate the USA like Odumbo.


35 posted on 05/18/2012 8:37:43 AM PDT by Wurlitzer (Nothing says "ignorance" like Islam!)
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To: ctdonath2
Remember: Regan looked like a RINO at first.

I don't think a RINO would be a fair description. His conservative bonafides were fairly clear after his epic speech at the 1964 convention.

But they were able to nudge him leftward on a number of fronts during his stint as governor of California and thought they could do the same as president.

Remember, the RINO wing backed George Bush I in 1980. The conservatives backing Reagan were just too well organized and united from 1976 for the RINO wing to overcome.

In hindsight, we were naive to think things would be different this year when we couldn't even agree on a candidate.

36 posted on 05/18/2012 8:38:51 AM PDT by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: MHGinTN
"I want an honest answer from one of you obamanoid stealth workers:"

Here we go again. Anyone who tells the truth about Romney is an 0bama supporter according to the Mittens Kittens.

Go back through my history here at FR, or under the same name at other conservative websites (or Hermit_Crab at Lucianne) and find ONE nice thing that I ever said about 0bama or any Democrat (Other than perhaps Zell Miller; I may have said something nice about him back in the old days)...
If you can find any evidence that I am an 'obamanoid' ... Then we will talk.

37 posted on 05/18/2012 8:42:31 AM PDT by LegendHasIt
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To: GoldenEagles
The lead analogy is flawed. As many keep trying to point out, there is a third person/entity (and I don't mean the other Agent Smith clones) involved.

In the lead analogy, correctly interpreted, Agent Smith is the Obama: out to undermine & wreck the system completely. Much as Zion (the Tea Party) despises the Machines (RINOs) and vice versa, a truce must be called between them for time to fight off a common enemy; the symbiosis between the Resistance and the Machines may be painful, but complete takeover by Agent Smith is far worse. Understandably, some in Zion can't get past the physical reality of the Machines to address the greater existential threat of Smith ... nonetheless, the truce must be arranged lest none survive.

38 posted on 05/18/2012 8:44:23 AM PDT by ctdonath2 (Cloud storage? Dropbox rocks! Sign up at http://db.tt/nQqWGd3 for 2GB free (and I get more too).)
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To: LegendHasIt
Beyond sending as many real conservatives to House & Senate as possible, I'd like to hear one practical and legal way to force a President to pay attention to people that he doesn't much like.

Consider what happened with George W. Bush when he nominated Harriett Myers. Or tried to push amnesty for illegal aliens on us.

If BO wants something bad enough, he will simply ignore congress with executive orders or ignore the courts and do it anyway.

No RINO who has ever occupied the presidential office has behaved in such a dictatorial manner. Not even Nixon. There is no reason to believe Romney would either.

39 posted on 05/18/2012 8:45:18 AM PDT by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: LegendHasIt

Much as you dislike the O, your strategy empowers him.


40 posted on 05/18/2012 8:45:52 AM PDT by ctdonath2 (Cloud storage? Dropbox rocks! Sign up at http://db.tt/nQqWGd3 for 2GB free (and I get more too).)
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To: ctdonath2
First: The entire ABO viewpoint is based on the false premise that Americans cannot survive four years of Obama. The lack of faith in the American people is astounding. The government may be corrupt, but the people will resist. We the people will survive an Obama.

Second: The ABO crowd assumes that Romney will be a lot better than an Obama. The truth is a Romney will institutionalize many, if not most, of Obama's dalliances. For example, will Romney cut back the EPA and take away its dictatorial powers - don't count on it. Will he really get rid of Obamacare - His own stated position is to repeal and replace. Replace with what - a single payer system, which is exactly the ultimate goal of Obama and the far left?

Third: The ABO group assumes that a Republican Congress can force a Romney to toe the line. History, however, does not support this position. Typically, tea drinkers become kool-aid drinkers and support the party line.

Fourth: ABO's think that a Romney will save the Supreme Court from going left. Once again, history (both that of Romney personally and Rino Presidents in general do not support this conclusion. Ask yourself, who appointed Earl Warren?

This country can resist a buffoon Obama, but with Romney, resistance will be futile. To paraphrase another poster on a different thread: I fear with Romney we will only be getting a smarter Obama.

41 posted on 05/18/2012 8:48:13 AM PDT by CharacterCounts (A vote for the lesser of two evils only insures the triumph of evil.)
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To: LegendHasIt
Don't put your hopes and efforts into a weak vessel like Romney.

You still won't address the glaring flaw in your reasoning. Yes, Romney is a weak vessel - but the Obama is a sieve, and your strategy is to default to the latter.

42 posted on 05/18/2012 8:49:56 AM PDT by ctdonath2 (Cloud storage? Dropbox rocks! Sign up at http://db.tt/nQqWGd3 for 2GB free (and I get more too).)
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To: Vigilanteman
"No RINO who has ever occupied the presidential office has behaved in such a dictatorial manner. Not even Nixon. There is no reason to believe Romney would either.

No, I don't think that a somewhat left leaning squish would be a dictator. Dictators really need to have a vision, a core that they really believe in.

Romney does not have that.

That is why I say we have to work on getting in a conservative Congress.

43 posted on 05/18/2012 8:54:26 AM PDT by LegendHasIt
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To: LegendHasIt
I don't believe anything you claim, bub. Your immediate response to try and twist what I wrote is evidence enough that you are not what you are trying to convince FR you are. In response to my post you tried this crap:

"Anyone who tells the truth about Romney is an 0bama supporter according to the Mittens Kittens."

That is exactly NOT what I was accusing you of, and you know it but tried this leftist tactic of mischaracterizing to fit the agenda you serve. You're aliar and looking more like an obamnoid stealth worker at FR with every post. Your methodology reminds me of Paul Bagala or that democrap pig who cusses at females on Hannity's 9pm program.

44 posted on 05/18/2012 8:56:54 AM PDT by MHGinTN (Being deceived can be cured.)
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To: CharacterCounts

All four points are valid - yet fail to note that in each point, Romney is the better (to wit: less bad) choice.

Stop equating “better” with “good”. We agree with all your points re: Romney, we just don’t see how you would rather have someone who’s _WORSE_.

Reviewing your points...

First: surviving Romney will be harder than surviving Obama, whose clear goal is to undermine & destroy the system. Romney at least will play within the rules, not set the rule book on fire.

Second: it’s not that Romney will be a lot better than Obama, it’s that Romney will be better than Obama. Whatever Romney will screw up, Obama has already signaled he will destroy. Easier to fix less damage than more.

Third: we can at least argue with Romney about the line. Obama will erase it.

Fourth: Romney may replace exiting judges with leftists. Obama will replace them with communists, and may not wait for any current occupants to exit before adding more - assuming he’ll care about the court at all instead of “that’s their ruling, now let them enforce it.”

As for buffoon vs futile, methinks you’ve got the subjects of that sentence reversed.


45 posted on 05/18/2012 8:59:43 AM PDT by ctdonath2 (Cloud storage? Dropbox rocks! Sign up at http://db.tt/nQqWGd3 for 2GB free (and I get more too).)
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To: ctdonath2

Not that I have given you any reason to understand my strategy in this thread, but my real strategy is to UN-empower which ever socialist is in the Whitehouse.

It had been fun playing with you folks on this thread, but I have work to do out here at the gulch.

L8r


46 posted on 05/18/2012 9:02:52 AM PDT by LegendHasIt
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To: GoldenEagles

I’m pretty sure it’s “faze,” not “phase.”


47 posted on 05/18/2012 9:06:50 AM PDT by Larry Lucido
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To: MHGinTN
"Tell us how you tantrum troops believe there will be an America where some new conservative order will have an opportunity to establish itself as the alternative to the pubbie brand, if little barry bastard commie is allowed four more years to carry out his abortion of the Republic."

Bump.


Sarah sez "Vote for Obama or nobody at all!"

/s

Damn the Republic!

/s2

48 posted on 05/18/2012 9:07:39 AM PDT by Miss Behave (All ways, always.)
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To: ctdonath2
The main point I was making is that American's including Congress will continue to resist Obama's dalliances.

Liberal Republicans always institutionalize the left's dalliances.

Obamacare, is being mightily resisted right now. When Romney makes a few minor changes and gets the support of half of the Republicans in Congress, the resistance to the new Romneycare will be much more difficult.

I don't think that Romney is as evil as Obama, but I do believe the results of Romney's actions, for freedom loving Americans will be worse.

49 posted on 05/18/2012 9:10:58 AM PDT by CharacterCounts (A vote for the lesser of two evils only insures the triumph of evil.)
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To: MHGinTN

Sure. Whatever. I’m a liar, and my long history of supporting conservativism was all just a setup to be an 0bama astroturfer for this thread.

Whatever makes you feel better about yourself and the lousy situation you have gotten yourself into.

Call me Axelrod; Hell, Call me Karl Marx, call me Mao if it makes you feel better. Doesn’t change reality, but maybe it will get you through the day


50 posted on 05/18/2012 9:12:12 AM PDT by LegendHasIt
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