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Biggest Bear Ever Found -- "It Blew My Mind," Expert Says
National Geographic News ^ | February 3, 2011 | Christine Dell'Amore

Posted on 05/20/2012 8:01:48 PM PDT by SunkenCiv

There's a new titleholder for the biggest, baddest bear ever found.

A prehistoric South American giant short-faced bear tipped the scales at up to 3,500 pounds (1,600 kilograms) and towered at least 11 feet (3.4 meters) standing up, according to a new study.

The previous heavyweight was a North American giant short-faced bear -- a related extinct species -- that weighed up to 2,500 pounds (1,134 kilograms). The largest bear on record in modern times was a 2,200-pound (998-kilogram) polar bear shot in Alaska in the 19th century.

The South American giant short-faced bear roamed its namesake continent about 500,000 to 2 million years ago and would have been the largest and most powerful meat-eater on land at the time, scientists say...

The bear skeleton, found in Buenos Aires Province, Argentina, in 1935, was recently reexamined by Schubert and study co-author Leopoldo Soibelzon, a paleontologist from Argentina who specializes in South American fossil bears.

By measuring its almost elephant-size humerus, or upper arm bone, the team was able to calculate the size of the rest of the bear's body, Schubert said.

Their analysis also revealed that the animal was an old male that had endured several serious injuries throughout his life...

In South America, Schubert suspects, a glut in prey and a lack of competition combined to make the bear king of the continent...

In North America, the short-faced bear's increasing size may have offered an advantage -- its sheer heft may have scared off saber-toothed cats and other predators from their kills, the researchers speculate.

And the short-faced bear's reign in North America would have also coincided with an explosion in Ice Age megafauna, such as giant ground sloths, camels, and mammoths -- all potential new food sources.

(Excerpt) Read more at news.nationalgeographic.com ...


TOPICS: History; Science; Travel
KEYWORDS: argentina; bear; godsgravesglyphs; leopoldosoibelzon; paleontology; shortfacedbear
Paleontologist Leopoldo Soibelzon holds an upper arm bone of the giant bear next to an elephant's. [ Photograph courtesy Leopoldo Soibelzon ]

Biggest Bear Ever Found

1 posted on 05/20/2012 8:02:00 PM PDT by SunkenCiv
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Battle royale: Prehistoric cave bears versus cave lions
BBC | May 23, 2011 | Matt Walker
Posted on 05/23/2011 5:23:23 PM PDT by decimon
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DNA frozen in permafrost muck reveals ancient ecosystems
Montreal Gazette | November 19, 2011 | Ed Struzik
Posted on 11/21/2011 6:15:14 PM PST by Renfield
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2 posted on 05/20/2012 8:05:23 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (FReepathon 2Q time -- https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: Renfield; StayAt HomeMother; Ernest_at_the_Beach; decimon; 1010RD; 21twelve; 24Karet; ...

 GGG managers are SunkenCiv, StayAt HomeMother & Ernest_at_the_Beach
Thanks Renfield.

To all -- please ping me to other topics which are appropriate for the GGG list.


3 posted on 05/20/2012 8:05:59 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (FReepathon 2Q time -- https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: SunkenCiv

They call it a “meat eater”. Outside of Polar Bears, most bears that I am familiar with are quite omnivorous, and enjoy their huckleberries and honey greatly.


4 posted on 05/20/2012 8:30:34 PM PDT by Fractal Trader
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To: Fractal Trader
I believe the short-faced bears may have been carrion eaters. The thinking is that they had a highly developed sense of smell -- typical in those animals that ate rotting meat. The benefit of their large size was to scare off other carrion eaters from a food source.

But I think this stuff generally falls into the area of "unsubstantiated guesswork".

5 posted on 05/20/2012 8:43:40 PM PDT by ClearCase_guy (Like Emmett Till, Trayvon Martin has become simply a stick with which to beat Whites.)
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To: SunkenCiv

‘Ey Booboo, bigger than the average bear....


6 posted on 05/20/2012 8:59:04 PM PDT by Thorliveshere
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To: Thorliveshere

No *wonder* he had every freakin’ picnic basket before it was dark.


7 posted on 05/20/2012 9:04:42 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (FReepathon 2Q time -- https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: SunkenCiv

This is one bear that could s*** in the woods.....or any other place it damned well pleased.


8 posted on 05/20/2012 9:05:47 PM PDT by RightOnline (I am Andrew Breitbart!)
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To: Fractal Trader
Starving bears eat two men in Russia
KTRK-TV Houston, TX
Wednesday, July 23, 2008

MOSCOW, Russia -- A pack of enormous bears searching for food killed and ate two men at mines in Russia's Pacific Kamchatka region and have kept hundreds of geologists and miners from reaching the mine, news agencies reported Wednesday.

A pack of up to 30 Kamchatka bears -- which are similar to grizzlies -- prowled around two mines of a local platinum mining company where they killed the two guards on Thursday, local officials were quoted by the Russian ITAR-Tass news agency as saying.

About 400 company workers have refused to return to the mines for fear of the bears, which stand 10 feet (three meters) tall on their hind legs and weigh up to 1,500 pounds (700 kilograms), Interfax reported.

(snip)

Actually, the Kamchatka bear is a variety of brown bear (not grizzly), usually larger and heavier that the North American variety.
9 posted on 05/20/2012 9:27:48 PM PDT by kitchen (America or obama - you can't have both.)
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To: RightOnline

When he sits around the cave, he sits *around the cave*.


10 posted on 05/20/2012 9:29:07 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (FReepathon 2Q time -- https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: SunkenCiv

Great Thread! Thanks!

Is this the same species as the extinct “Cave Bear” in Germany? Caves were evacuated there for phosphate during WW2, and many Cave Bear Skeletons were uncovered and described.


11 posted on 05/20/2012 9:29:58 PM PDT by Graewoulf ((Dictator Baby-Doc Barack's obama"care" violates Sherman Anti-Trust Law, AND U.S. Constitution.))
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To: kitchen

Military choppers with machine guns should be sufficient to solve that one. :’)


12 posted on 05/20/2012 9:36:54 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (FReepathon 2Q time -- https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: Graewoulf

Thanks Graewoulf!


13 posted on 05/20/2012 9:41:53 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (FReepathon 2Q time -- https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: Fractal Trader

These bears were different. I believe they concluded they must have been mainly meat eaters, becasue they couldn’t sustain that size in that ecosystem without eating a lot of meat.


14 posted on 05/20/2012 10:01:42 PM PDT by Boogieman
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To: Graewoulf

No, short-faced bears were strictly New World animals.


15 posted on 05/20/2012 10:02:55 PM PDT by Boogieman
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To: SunkenCiv

Thanks for the ping....amazing stuff.


16 posted on 05/20/2012 11:12:14 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (The Global Warming Hoax was a Criminal Act....where is Al Gore?)
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To: ClearCase_guy
But I think this stuff generally falls into the area of "unsubstantiated guesswork".

No, these are "educated guesses", in which various clues like the wear patterns on the teeth, types of teeth, fossilized scat, claw types and wear patterns, etc., provide evidence about the diet of the animal involved. These characteristics can be compared to those of currently living species to build a picture of what the ancient animals were like.

17 posted on 05/21/2012 3:21:54 AM PDT by exDemMom (Now that I've finally accepted that I'm living a bad hair life, I'm more at peace with the world.)
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To: Fractal Trader

18 posted on 05/21/2012 4:07:36 AM PDT by Rebelbase
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To: Rebelbase

LOVE IT! “500. Must be a peach of a hand.”


19 posted on 05/21/2012 4:34:26 AM PDT by Doctor 2Brains (If the government were Paris Hilton, it could not score a free drink in a bar full of lonely sailors)
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To: SunkenCiv
Wonder if Timothy Treadwell would have tried to "whisper" to one of these bears?

Wonder what type of pepper spray would work best on these critters?

20 posted on 05/21/2012 4:42:21 AM PDT by donozark (We grow too soon old, and too late smart...)
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To: donozark

Probably onions would be better, particularly if cookin’ ‘em up.


21 posted on 05/21/2012 6:17:49 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (FReepathon 2Q time -- https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: SunkenCiv

Bigfoot ancestor perhaps?


22 posted on 05/21/2012 7:24:53 AM PDT by rawhide
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To: donozark; SunkenCiv
Wonder if Timothy Treadwell would have tried to "whisper" to one of these bears?


23 posted on 05/22/2012 8:33:58 AM PDT by uglybiker (nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-BATMAN!)
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