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Florida ordinance could give ‘transgender’ men access to women’s restrooms
life news ^ | 5/21/2012 | Ben Johnson

Posted on 05/21/2012 6:48:57 PM PDT by Morgana

JACKSONVILLE, FLORIDA, May 21, 2012, (LifeSiteNews.com) – A proposed “civil rights” ordinance could open public restrooms and showers to transgender members of the opposite sex, its critics warn.

The city council of Jacksonville, Florida, is considering passing an ordinance to outlaw “discrimination” on the basis of sexual orientation or gender identity in employment, public accommodations, or housing. That means no employer, landlord, or owner of any facility open to the public may refuse to hire or rent their property to anyone who claims to be homosexual or transgender.

The measure, supported by Councilman Warren Jones, also leaves employers vulnerable to lawsuits if an applicant claims he is a victim of discrimination.

“This ‘civil rights’ ordinance takes away more rights than it supposedly grants,” said Mat Staver, Founder and Chairman of Liberty Counsel, a pro-family legal organization.

Such a measure would “further infringe on the religious freedoms of Christians, and the majority of mainstream Americans who do not accept such alternative lifestyles as normal,” Joey Vaughn, a local business owner, told the Florida Baptist Witness. “There is no exemption or protection under the ordinance for followers of Jesus Christ who own or work in a business.”

The Jacksonville Baptist Association has been active in opposing the measure. However, members of the Religious Left have supported it, including two churches affiliated with the Cooperative Baptist Fellowship, as well as clergy of the Episcopalian, Lutheran, and Jewish faiths.

The measure follows shortly after a similar motion passed the city council of Hutchinson, Kansas. The final measure, passed city council by a 3-2 vote last week, removed the transgender provision. However, it still opens public accommodations – including any church that rents its facility to the public – to homosexuals. A fact sheet on the ordinance states, “If a church has a parish hall that they rent out to the general public, they could not discriminate against a gay couple who want to rent the building for a party.” The council will vote on the specific legal language on June 5.

Adding transgender rights could facilitate another kind of abuse. Campaign Life Coalition national president Jim Hughes has warned that such laws give sexual predators “legitimized access” to women’s restrooms.

“Wherever this [provision] is passed, privacy and decency are eroded,” agrees Staver.

Canadian women have suffered a flurry of restroom attacks by men. In 2010, an Ottawa man was sentenced to three years in prison for assaulting a 15-year-old girl at Nepean High School. The year before, a Halifax woman was assaulted with a sharp object in a restroom at the mall.

In the United States, Concerned Women for America’s Donna Miller was shocked to see a man urinating in a women’s restroom in plain view, “very intentional, in your face” in 2009.

Yet a Macy’s store in San Antonio, Texas, fired 27-year-old Natalie Johnson for denying a man who identified himself as transgender access to the women’s restroom.

Staver cited a case in Orono, Maine, where a teenage boy uses the female restroom on the grounds of his perceived gender identity.

Citing the inherent controversy, Jacksonville City Councilman Doyle Carter believes the motion should be settled by a public referendum. “I just think it’s an important issue and the citizens of the city should vote on it, not 19 people,” he said. The former mayor, John Delaney, who supports the ordinance, disagrees. “It’s not a democracy were everyone votes on everything, like ancient Greece,” he said.

“This has never been about discrimination,” Staver said. “These ordinances are meant to legitimize and codify the homosexual and transgender lifestyles.”

Public comments will be accepted at the council’s next meeting on May 22. The body could vote on the issue by June 12.


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KEYWORDS: culturewar; homosexualagenda; moralabsolutes; napl; privacyrights; restroom; sexualharassment; transgender; waronwomen
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This is just asking for trouble
1 posted on 05/21/2012 6:49:21 PM PDT by Morgana
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This is just asking for trouble

Insofar as we are living during an epidemic of stupidity, odds favor its passing.

2 posted on 05/21/2012 6:55:12 PM PDT by the invisib1e hand (they have no god but caesar)
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To: Morgana

This BS is already happening in Gainesville.


3 posted on 05/21/2012 6:58:58 PM PDT by EEGator
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To: Morgana

This is a bad idea. If my wife comes out of a restroom with a dude looks like a lady behind her, it’s not only going to freak her out...


4 posted on 05/21/2012 7:03:49 PM PDT by Lx (Do you like it, do you like it. Scott? I call it Mr. and Mrs. Tennerman chili.)
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To: Morgana

I’m a lesbian trapped in the body of a middle aged man. Which way to the giurl’s shower?


5 posted on 05/21/2012 7:04:58 PM PDT by far sider
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To: Morgana

I’m a lesbian trapped in the body of a middle aged man. Which way to the girl’s shower?


6 posted on 05/21/2012 7:05:32 PM PDT by far sider
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To: Morgana
I've seen this happen -- had a very muscular "transgendered" person (a man pretending he was a woman) follow me into a women's restroom.

I was stunned. Luckily I wasn't alone (there were several women waiting in line in the restroom).

None of the other women said boo. But everyone in that restroom was uncomfortable, to put it mildly.

This happened in a public building in a conservative town ... in a police academy, of all places.

7 posted on 05/21/2012 7:15:22 PM PDT by shhrubbery! (NIH!)
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I wonder how this will strike all of those ladies who “just love their Gay and or Male Trans-gender friends”?

I happen to work at place that seems to cater to fagots. It makes me want to hurl watching the women treat them like one of their girlfriends. I hope they feel the same way when Steve/Eve joins them in the little girls room to take a pi$$ standing up!

8 posted on 05/21/2012 7:26:56 PM PDT by Artcore
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To: Morgana

My father had a homo come on to him in a restaurant lavvy in the 70’s. Put his hand on him at the urinal. He knocked him out.......COLD. I was 9. Wondered why we left the establishment so quickly. Mom filled me in some years later about what happened. LOL!

Love ya’, Dad! Miss you!


9 posted on 05/21/2012 7:29:23 PM PDT by RushIsMyTeddyBear (A MUST WATCH: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=KeOLurcQaqI)
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To: far sider
I’m a lesbian trapped in the body of a middle aged man. Which way to the girl’s shower?

LOL!

Sounds like a classic case of middle age male sexual orientation confusion disorder to me..........Hmmmm....

Sign me up, there must be some free money in it somewhere.

Oh, and which way to the girl's shower?

/s


10 posted on 05/21/2012 7:30:05 PM PDT by Envisioning (Call me a racist........, one more time..........)
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To: Morgana

Probably easier and cheaper in the long run to have public restrooms for men, women, queers, freaks and perverts.


11 posted on 05/21/2012 7:32:02 PM PDT by RetiredTexasVet (There's a pill for just about everything ... except stupid!)
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To: Morgana

Imagine perverted grown men in the same bathrooms as your daughter.


12 posted on 05/21/2012 7:32:02 PM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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To: EEGator

In Maine, they had people wanting unisex bathrooms for all schools. Yuck.


13 posted on 05/21/2012 7:33:12 PM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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To: far sider

Will allowing visits to the women’s shower be reserved just for those men dressed in drag or for ordinary dressing dudes as well?


14 posted on 05/21/2012 7:34:29 PM PDT by MNDude
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To: Morgana

Sick Aholes!

An man that even acts like he’s a trans gets a kick in the nuts
if they come around my ‘space’.


15 posted on 05/21/2012 7:35:35 PM PDT by TribalPrincess2U (Criminaliens or Crimigrants...0bamao's people?)
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To: TribalPrincess2U

They make special rooms for muslims, don’t they?
They can make special rooms for ‘sickos’, too.


16 posted on 05/21/2012 7:37:26 PM PDT by TribalPrincess2U (Criminaliens or Crimigrants...0bamao's people?)
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To: TribalPrincess2U

We women must put up with trans. and lesbos but men don’t have to have their space intruded? BS!


17 posted on 05/21/2012 7:39:41 PM PDT by TribalPrincess2U (Criminaliens or Crimigrants...0bamao's people?)
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To: TribalPrincess2U

“They can make special rooms for ‘sickos’, too.”

Make ‘em use the curb...


18 posted on 05/21/2012 7:40:51 PM PDT by GGpaX4DumpedTea
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To: TribalPrincess2U; Chode

some muzzie women want to have a “women’s only” swimming hour at public pools.

Oh I can’t wait till these two worlds collide. Transgenders and muzzie women at the women’s only swimming hour!

For real I would don a burkini just to see it!!


19 posted on 05/21/2012 7:42:54 PM PDT by Morgana (I only come here to see what happens next. It normally does.)
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To: GeronL

I’ll never understand pandering to .00001% of the population.


20 posted on 05/21/2012 7:48:02 PM PDT by EEGator
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