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5/24/12 | self

Posted on 05/24/2012 9:02:28 AM PDT by Jerrybob

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Mitt wouldn't be my first choice either, but compared to the anti-American, whitey-hating, old people-hating thing that now occupies the WH, Mitt looks pretty good.
1 posted on 05/24/2012 9:02:31 AM PDT by Jerrybob
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To: Jerrybob

Romney is a pro-abortion liberal RINO.

Obama is a pro-abortion socialist Marxist.

When it comes down to it, I am going to hold my nose and vote for the liberal RINO over the socialist Marxist, but all of my campaign contributions and volunteer time are going to conservative candidates in local races that may actually make a positive difference.


2 posted on 05/24/2012 9:10:07 AM PDT by Bubba_Leroy (The Obamanation Continues)
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To: Jerrybob
9. He successfully worked with Democrats while Governor

That's because he IS one. The objective isn't to work with Democrats. The objective is to DEFEAT them.

And if he's not your first choice, perhaps posting your personal top-ten Romney list isn't a great idea?

3 posted on 05/24/2012 9:14:20 AM PDT by Colonel_Flagg (Obama vs. Romney: Zero x Zero = Zero.)
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To: Jerrybob

And ‘that’ is supposed to impress me?

Look at the person himself, who he surrounded himeself with, and what he did.

No sell.


4 posted on 05/24/2012 9:14:31 AM PDT by Sir Napsalot (Pravda + Useful Idiots = CCCP; JournOList + Useful Idiots = DopeyChangey!)
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To: Jerrybob

See my tagline.


5 posted on 05/24/2012 9:18:34 AM PDT by MeganC (No way in Hell am I voting for Mitt Romney. Not now, not ever. Deal with it.)
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To: Jerrybob

This is the choice:

GOP Socialist and LDS cultist vs. Democrat Socialist and Liberation Theology cultist

There is no lesser of these two Evils.


6 posted on 05/24/2012 9:18:44 AM PDT by caww
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To: Jerrybob

Mitt Romney !! I’m starting to like him ... a lot.


7 posted on 05/24/2012 9:19:36 AM PDT by altura
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To: Sir Napsalot

Gotta say this. People like you and all the others who will jump on here to declare their purity and their vow never to vote for Romney are not as good as you think you are.

In fact, you are downers, annoying, elitists and if all the conservatives I knew were like you, I would become a liberal.

I am not a liberal. I am for every conservative principle you could possible name.

The difference is I’m not a woebegotten nutcase.


8 posted on 05/24/2012 9:22:33 AM PDT by altura
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To: Jerrybob
If Obama had anything good in his college records, they would be public and MSNBC would be repeating the data 24 x 7.

The facts are he was not a good student and spent his college years smoking dope and snorting coke.

9 posted on 05/24/2012 9:24:49 AM PDT by Gabrial (The nightmare will continue as long as the nightmare is in the White House)
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To: altura

I WAS at your stage of reasoning in 2008. No more.

You’re welcome to feel all mighty condescending, thou.


10 posted on 05/24/2012 9:26:58 AM PDT by Sir Napsalot (Pravda + Useful Idiots = CCCP; JournOList + Useful Idiots = DopeyChangey!)
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To: Jerrybob

#1. That would be a matter of opinion.

#2. Not sure that’s a reason to vote for someone.

#3. No he can fumble all on his own.

#4. Well, that’s a plus.

#5. Still not a reason to vote for someone.

#6. He belongs to a “church” that preaches godhood and worship of multiple gods.

#7. He has a history of liberal government. Business maybe.

#8. You are correct but we know he can ride a bike and surf.

#9. Of course he worked well with democrats, he is one.

#10. Maybe.


11 posted on 05/24/2012 9:28:26 AM PDT by svcw (If one living cell on another planet is life, why isn't it life in the womb?)
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To: altura
I am "for" every conservative principle you could possible name.

Really? Then why are you voting for someone who clearly is for killing babies..for homosexuals...is a liar and fraud?

Actions speak louder than words as is said.

12 posted on 05/24/2012 9:29:11 AM PDT by caww
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To: altura
I am not a liberal. I am for every conservative principle you could possible name.

Then how in the world do you support Romney the liberal.

13 posted on 05/24/2012 9:30:35 AM PDT by svcw (If one living cell on another planet is life, why isn't it life in the womb?)
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To: Sir Napsalot

Look, nobody’s trying to sell you anything, especially now that you’ve ‘evolved.’

Frankly, I don’t want you on our side. You and your ilk give conservatives a bad name.

You only see the dark side. You have no hope. No trust.

Not saying you, but I’ve seen the most horrible Mormon bigotry on this site by people who hate Romney.

So, please, please, go on your merry way. We don’t want you.


14 posted on 05/24/2012 9:31:27 AM PDT by altura
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To: altura
You keep evolving!

Just like the President.

15 posted on 05/24/2012 9:33:44 AM PDT by CharacterCounts (A vote for the lesser of two evils only insures the triumph of evil.)
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To: Sir Napsalot

Mitt’s history,... his record of flip-flops,... ad deviations from conservative and Republican positions ....is on an order of magnitude beyond anything else out there.......there really isn’t one central core to Romney as a political leader that is free of flip-flops, ..no one thing could be sure he’d never compromise in.

In order to have substance you have to have some measure of constancy...Romney has zip-zero consistancy...nada!


16 posted on 05/24/2012 9:34:33 AM PDT by caww
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To: altura

So why are you supporting Romney, when you say you are a conservative?
Romney is:
pro abortion
pro homosexual agenda
pro man made global warming
pro government mandate
pro big government
pro government health care
pro welfare
anti conservative
(and more)
Not one of those are conservative


17 posted on 05/24/2012 9:36:19 AM PDT by svcw (If one living cell on another planet is life, why isn't it life in the womb?)
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To: altura
We don’t want you.

Who are we?

You speaking for the entire forum now?

18 posted on 05/24/2012 9:36:32 AM PDT by CharacterCounts (A vote for the lesser of two evils only insures the triumph of evil.)
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To: svcw

I don’t consider Romney a liberal. Not at all.

He’s not as rock solid conservative as we might want but he’s got plenty of conservative credentials.

Even if I thought he was a bit liberal (which I don’t) I would still vote for him against the evil Marxist.

I don’t want to argue about it anymore.

You people do exactly what you please.

I wish you’d shut up about hating Romney, but I guess I can’t make you.


19 posted on 05/24/2012 9:38:10 AM PDT by altura
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To: CharacterCounts

Of course I’m not speaking for the entire forum.

I am speaking for the remaining members who have some sense.


20 posted on 05/24/2012 9:39:45 AM PDT by altura
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To: altura
You went from an ABO to a stark raving promoter of the liberal pond scum, and you think the rest of us don't make sense?

I can understand (although I don't agree with it) the philosophy of voting for Romney to avoid a second term for Obama. But, you go well beyond that, claiming he is a conservative and you like him a lot.

Now, you just want people who disagree with you to just go away.

The whole process is informative to say the least. I now better understand how the Germans evolved in 1933.

21 posted on 05/24/2012 9:46:59 AM PDT by CharacterCounts (A vote for the lesser of two evils only insures the triumph of evil.)
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To: altura

Well, A I do not hate Romney, I do not know him personally, I do know his record.
I find it very interesting that you say that you are conservative and Romney is not a liberal.
Romney is:
pro abortion
pro homosexual agenda
pro government mandates
pro man mad global warming
pro gun grab
pro big government
pro government health care
pro welfare
(and more)
Not one of those is a conservative concept.
Again, how do you reconcile that with your stated conservationism and Romney is not a liberal.
I would really like to know how you come to the conclusion you are a conservative and Romney is not a liberal.


22 posted on 05/24/2012 9:51:29 AM PDT by svcw (If one living cell on another planet is life, why isn't it life in the womb?)
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To: altura

It is Mitt Romney’s job right now to sell himself to me. I’v listed the things I look for in a candidate. All those other trappings (the list in this article) points to the Liberals’ way at looking and judging things, academic, titles, credentials, superficial stuff.

But GOP made the decision that it is the so-called ‘swing voters’ that they are targeting.

>>> We don’t want you. <<<

So sorry to disappoint you. Doesn’t matter if YOU don’t want me, I am a conservative, and that’s that.


23 posted on 05/24/2012 9:53:29 AM PDT by Sir Napsalot (Pravda + Useful Idiots = CCCP; JournOList + Useful Idiots = DopeyChangey!)
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To: altura
"Look, nobody’s trying to sell you anything, especially now that you’ve ‘evolved.’ Frankly, I don’t want you on our side. You and your ilk give conservatives a bad name. You only see the dark side. You have no hope. No trust. Not saying you, but I’ve seen the most horrible Mormon bigotry on this site by people who hate Romney. So, please, please, go on your merry way. We don’t want you."

Well Said!

I have learned one thing from this election cycle and that is that there are people who at least claim to be conservative that are every bit as nutty and lacking in common sense as any liberal. Many are on this site and posting in this thread. In addition to being completely off the reservation, they, just like the libs are very prone to distorting and lets just face it, lying, to support their position. Just like the libs their fault is the belief that they are purer, smarter, and intellectually superior to us who live in real ville.

24 posted on 05/24/2012 10:43:35 AM PDT by precisionshootist
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To: precisionshootist

Hum? What lies in this thread? Who is off the reservation?
Lots of accusations and no facts.


25 posted on 05/24/2012 10:54:50 AM PDT by svcw (If one living cell on another planet is life, why isn't it life in the womb?)
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To: precisionshootist

There is NO antiMormon hate or threads on FR.

The problem is that the liar and incompetent Romney
when not backstabbing, attacks anyone criticizing HIM.

Stop peddling lies about FR for your Master, Bishop Romney,
who is the sole author of BOTH RomneyCARE and gay marriage.


26 posted on 05/24/2012 11:03:25 AM PDT by Diogenesis ("Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. " Pres. Ronald Reagan)
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To: svcw
"Hum? What lies in this thread? Who is off the reservation? Lots of accusations and no facts."

Romney is: pro abortion pro homosexual agenda pro government mandates pro man mad global warming pro gun grab pro big government pro government health care pro welfare (and more)

That list is simply not accurate beyond mere distortion or exaggeration.

Want an example of "off the reservation". First, would be all the posters that say there is no difference in Romney and Obama, that they are one in the same. These people don't have the first clue about how our system of government works or they would NOT say this. To be an adult and have this opinion is clearly off the reservation

Another is all the "I'll never vote for Romney" crowd. Who seem to think doing a write in vote is somehow not voting for Romney and not helping to reelect Obama. They are free to vote or not vote however they want but their mind set is off the reservation.

Lies, distortions = Romney appointed liberal justices. People that make this claim are either misinformed (distorting) or they know the truth of the Mass. System but are in fact (lying) about his appointments.

I could go on and on but I'm not going to get into a pissing match with those that have mindset that is not based in reality.

27 posted on 05/24/2012 11:15:10 AM PDT by precisionshootist
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To: caww
So Romney isn't consistent. Obama is -- consistently anti-American, consistently pro-Socialist, and consistently anti-private property and anti-individualism.

Whatever else he is, Romney knows private business better than Obama, is more pro-capitalism than Obama, and unlike Obama, has to consider whether his actions in office will alienate Republicans. That latter is particularly key.

I can't imagine a plausible scenario where Romney is worse than Obama, and quite a few where he will be significantly better.

28 posted on 05/24/2012 11:18:34 AM PDT by Bruce Campbells Chin
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To: Diogenesis

I usually don’t bother with you but there are horrible anti-Mormon hate threads on this site.

I saw on yesterday.


29 posted on 05/24/2012 11:19:04 AM PDT by altura
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To: altura

Gotta say this. People like you and all the others who will jump on here to declare their purity and their vow never to vote for Romney are not as good as you think you are.

In fact, you are downers, annoying, elitists and if all the conservatives I knew were like you, I would become a liberal.

I am not a liberal. I am for every conservative principle you could possible name.

The difference is I’m not a woebegotten nutcase.

Well said, my FRiend!


30 posted on 05/24/2012 11:19:47 AM PDT by SandyLynn
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To: precisionshootist
Talk about being off the reservation.

You are the one supporting a liberal, and complaining about conservatives who won't join you in supporting a liberal. And You're doing the complaining on a conservative site owned by a person who has the opposite opinion from you.

After all, it is his reservation.

Then, you claim that opposing a liberal is just like a lib and supporting a liberal is somehow being a good conservative.

Finally, anyone giving your rant a fair reading would have no choice but to concludes that it is you who believes he smarter, and intellectually superior

31 posted on 05/24/2012 11:21:27 AM PDT by CharacterCounts (A vote for the lesser of two evils only insures the triumph of evil.)
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To: CharacterCounts
"You are the one supporting a liberal, and complaining about conservatives who won't join you in supporting a liberal."

Romney is not a liberal, not by today's standards anyway. He is certainly more liberal than I would like but the choice is Obama or Romney, not Romney or Ronald Reagan. Between the two there is no comparison and to equate the two is off the reservation. We must defeat Obama. He is a Marxist, a socialist, a communist who is systematically destroying America as we know it. Romney is not even in Obama's league.

So what are you going to do? The choice is either Romney or Obama.

32 posted on 05/24/2012 11:44:36 AM PDT by precisionshootist
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To: Jerrybob

11. Romney is a politician and thus can be manipulated by money and votes (if our side learns to play that game). Obama, however is an activist who is bent on transforming America no matter what people think or say.


33 posted on 05/24/2012 11:44:36 AM PDT by mnehring
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To: CharacterCounts

Congrats. At least you didn’t ping Jim as many of your smarmy little cohorts do.

Jim has declared that we are free to support Romney on this forum and to make posts to that effect.

If he changes his mind, I’m sure he’ll let us know and then we can either stop or leave.


34 posted on 05/24/2012 11:45:15 AM PDT by altura
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To: precisionshootist

There is a mixture of things I can’t agree with on this thread.

First of all, saying ENOUGH and asserting one will not vote for Romney, a man whose record of governing in Mass. is full of Rhino compromise is certainly something that can be termed principled and even conservative principled. I may not withold my vote in this manner but I understand the issue.

Secondly for anyone to claim there aren’t anti-Mormon threads on this site is disingenuous at best and an attempt at disinformation of a leftist caste at the least. The is an entire clutch of posters that make their entire participation on the site about trolling for Mormons or their defenders and “exposing” the flaws of the practice of Mormonism. They have taken the appellation “the flying Inmans.” When you take a nasty name as a badge of honor you are declaring you are a party.

The owner of the site has plainly said threads promoting Romney are not welcome. As I respect his sponsorship of this site I will certainly always comply — why can’t others — there is a lot of politics and news without Mitt.


35 posted on 05/24/2012 11:45:50 AM PDT by KC Burke (Plain Conservative opinions and common sense correction for thirteen years.)
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To: precisionshootist

Romney is:

pro abortion: “Speaking at a bioethics forum, GOP gubernatorial hopeful Mitt Romney yesterday endorsed embryonic stem cell research. The Boston Globe, 6/14/02
“I believe that abortion should be safe and legal in this country. I have since the time that my mom took that position when she ran in 1970 as a US Senate candidate. I believe that since Roe v. Wade has been the law for 20 years we should sustain and support it.” The Boston Globe, 3/2/06)
I will preserve and protect a woman’s right to choose, and am devoted and dedicated to honoring my word in that regard. I will not change any provisions of Massachusetts’ pro-choice laws.” (2002 Romney-O’Brien Gubernatorial Debate, Suffolk University, Boston, MA, 10/29/02)

pro homosexual agenda: In 1994, called President Bill Clinton’s ‘don’t ask, don’t tell’ military policy ‘the first of a number of steps that will ultimately lead to gays and lesbians being able to serve openly and honestly in our nation’s military.’” The Washington Post, 12/21/06
When a 2002 Constitutional Amendment was proposed to ban same-sex marriage, Romney opposed it. The Boston Globe, 3/22/02

pro government mandates/ health insurance: Romney signed a bill Wednesday requiring all Massachusetts residents to purchase health insurance. The Washington Post, 4/13/06

pro man mad global warming: “I think the global warming debate is now pretty much over and people recognize the need associated with providing sources which do not generate the heat that is currently provided by fossil fuels” Cape Cod Times, 3/14/03)

pro gun grab: “I will take stands that put him at odds with some traditional ultra- conservative groups, and cite my support for the assault rifle ban and the Brady gun control law. ‘That’s not going to make me the hero of the NRA,’ he said. ‘I don’t line up with a lot of special interest groups.” Boston Herald, 9/23/94)

pro big government: Mitt Romney broke with GOP tradition and refused to sign the Americans for Tax Reform.” The Boston Globe, 9/4/06)

pro welfare:
(and more): “Illegal immigrants should have a chance to obtain citizenship.”, ” The Lowell Sun, 3/30/06)
“I was an independent during the time of Reagan-Bush. I’m not trying to return to Reagan- Bush.” The Boston Globe, 2/26/05)

Since you mentioned judges:

2005, The Boston Globe

Romney has passed over GOP lawyers for three-quarters (75%) of the 36 judicial vacancies he has faced, instead tapping registered Democrats or independents – including two gay lawyers who have supported expanded same-sex rights.

Of the 36 people Romney named to be judges or clerk magistrates, 23 are either registered Democrats or unenrolled voters who have made multiple contributions to Democratic politicians or who voted in Democratic primaries, state and local records show. In all, he has nominated nine registered Republicans, 13 unenrolled voters, and 14 registered Democrats.

Yea, I guess my view of Romney is distorted.


36 posted on 05/24/2012 11:47:25 AM PDT by svcw (If one living cell on another planet is life, why isn't it life in the womb?)
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To: Bruce Campbells Chin
I can't imagine a plausible scenario where Romney is worse than Obama, and quite a few where he will be significantly better.

I agree...you probably can't imagine Romney worse than Obama...and the 'better' does remain to be seen to our own peril with either Romney or Obama....they are a double headed coin no matter how it's tossed.

37 posted on 05/24/2012 11:53:05 AM PDT by caww
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To: CharacterCounts

Romney is Pond scum?

Rather than scream ‘pond scum’ as if your opinions are godlike truths don’t you think a bit of humility is well overdue in the internet.

Care to tell us about your charitable giving? About your missionary work and the work you did with fellow church members in need?

About the jobs you helped to create or the value you created for your family and society in general?

Or about how you helped reduce your state’s budget deficit? Or about how you turned around a failing Olympics?

Pond scum? Really?


38 posted on 05/24/2012 12:05:44 PM PDT by aligncare
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To: KC Burke
"The owner of the site has plainly said threads promoting Romney are not welcome. As I respect his sponsorship of this site I will certainly always comply — why can’t others — there is a lot of politics and news without Mitt."

Yes I remember that thread! I'm not sure what was really meant by it and it turned into a lively debate to say the least.

Do you really think Jim wants anyone who supports Romney to go away? Or maybe just not say anything about the election yet somehow have a reason to visit the site? This is a political site and the politics of the day IS going to be about the presidential election which will be a choice of Mitt Romney or Barrack Obama. If we can't have threads that support Romney then I'm not sure what we are doing here at all.

39 posted on 05/24/2012 12:08:59 PM PDT by precisionshootist
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To: altura
Why would I ping Jim?

Trust me on this, if Romney becomes the next President, hope I am totally wrong about him.

40 posted on 05/24/2012 12:14:59 PM PDT by CharacterCounts (A vote for the lesser of two evils only insures the triumph of evil.)
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To: CharacterCounts
"Trust me on this, if Romney becomes the next President, hope I am totally wrong about him. "

We both have a chance that we could be wrong about Romney but neither of us have a chance of being wrong about Obama.

41 posted on 05/24/2012 12:19:47 PM PDT by precisionshootist
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To: aligncare
Are you now trying to impose some type of litmus test on people who disagree with, as if need to meet some preconditions set by you before I can talk.

And you have the audacity to call me high and mighty?

Trying to censor another's speech is lower than pond scum.

42 posted on 05/24/2012 12:22:15 PM PDT by CharacterCounts (A vote for the lesser of two evils only insures the triumph of evil.)
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To: KC Burke

>>Secondly for anyone to claim there aren’t anti-Mormon threads on this site is disingenuous at best and an attempt at disinformation of a leftist caste at the least. The is an entire clutch of posters that make their entire participation on the site about trolling for Mormons or their defenders and “exposing” the flaws of the practice of Mormonism. They have taken the appellation “the flying Inmans.” When you take a nasty name as a badge of honor you are declaring you are a party.<<

AMEN!


43 posted on 05/24/2012 12:22:56 PM PDT by netmilsmom (Romney scares me. Obama is the freaking nightmare that is so bad you are afraid to go back to sleep)
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To: precisionshootist

To easily answer that I would look at Jim’s stated purpose for the site on the FR home page.

Look there is a full congress to elect. There is corruption, culture subversion and socialism to discuss and share information about. I see no reason to argue GOP candidates with my fellow posters any longer. They ALL have strong opinions or they wouldn’t be here and few here will be converted by argumentation.


44 posted on 05/24/2012 12:28:12 PM PDT by KC Burke (Plain Conservative opinions and common sense correction for thirteen years.)
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To: KC Burke

And here is an example

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2886653/posts?q=1&;page=101#125


45 posted on 05/24/2012 12:33:24 PM PDT by netmilsmom (Romney scares me. Obama is the freaking nightmare that is so bad you are afraid to go back to sleep)
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To: caww

You know, I don’t know why conservatives can’t have reasonable disagreements without being rude. Perhaps, being rude, you can explain this.


46 posted on 05/24/2012 2:31:30 PM PDT by Bruce Campbells Chin
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To: Jerrybob

No sale !

DUMP WILLARD FOR WALKER 2012 !


47 posted on 05/24/2012 3:31:04 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (If you like lying Socialist dirtbags, you'll love Slick Willard)
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To: Bubba_Leroy

Romney is not pro-abortion. If he were, I could not vote for him. Romney has stated, repeatedly, that he wants to have Roe v. Wade overturned and will appoint SC justices accordingly.


48 posted on 05/24/2012 6:00:54 PM PDT by Charles Henrickson (Constitutional and social conservative Republican who wants to win)
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To: altura; Jim Robinson; ConjunctionJunction; Al B.; SolidWood; Leisler; greyfoxx39; ...
You constantly make up stories about FR yet you
have never given proof when challenged.
Worse, you DARE to tell those opposed to Romney to leave FR.

I have seen you do it on more than two threads;
twice on the Sunday threads.

THIS IS NOT AN ANTI-CONSERVATIVE pro-ROMNEY SITE
to the best of our knowledge like you tell posters
whom you then order to "leave" if they do not support
Romney in lockstep like you.

49 posted on 05/25/2012 4:44:05 AM PDT by Diogenesis ("Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. " Pres. Ronald Reagan)
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To: Charles Henrickson

Romney is not pro-abortion. If he were, I could not vote for him.
_________________________________________

You keep on telling yourself that...

But the facts remain...

Willie Mitty is pro-abortion...


50 posted on 05/25/2012 5:34:59 AM PDT by Tennessee Nana (Why should I vote for Bishop Romney when he hates me because I am a Christian)
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