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Fred Hakim, Times Square Hot-Dog Vendor, Dies at 83
New York Times ^
| April 30, 2012
| PAUL VITELLO
Posted on 05/26/2012 12:50:37 PM PDT by nickcarraway
Fred Hakims family owned a hole-in-the-wall hot-dog counter in Times Square that was the last of its kind when New York decided to revitalize the area in the 1990s by condemning dozens of establishments like it. It was a seven-seat, 250-square-foot piece of Edward Hopper streetscape at 229-31 West 42nd Street, which Mr. Hakims father had opened in 1941 and wryly named the Grand Luncheonette.
Mr. Hakim (pronounced HAY-kim) tried to keep the place open as a sort of living museum of the golden age of hawkers and honky-tonks in Times Square. But the city had other ideas, and after a two-year fight, he was evicted on Oct. 19, 1997.
He died on April 25 at age 83.
Mr. Hakim seemed stumped by the economics of the Times Square redevelopment. In conversations with family members, and in interviews with the many reporters who crowded his joint in its last days, he often asked, Where are the people who just want a hot dog and a knish?
Working for his father from age 13, Mr. Hakim was witness to a New Yorkers version of the history of the world. From the counter, he saw bobby-soxers rounding the corner to swoon over Frank Sinatra at the Paramount. He watched the crowds flood the street like a dam burst on V-E Day May 8, 1945 which also marked the end of the wartime brownout, when the lights in Times Square the billboards, the marquees, the windows in every building that had been dark for three years blazed once again.
He met a world of shoeshine men, longshoremen, sailors, drug dealers, prostitutes and policemen in the gritty years. He called it a symbiotic relationship, his son Mark said. You depended on each other, and no one was in anybodys business.
(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...
TOPICS: Food; Local News
KEYWORDS: hotdogs; manhattan; timessquare

Fred Hakim, left, and his son Glenn at their hot-dog stand on 42nd Street in Manhattan in 1997.
To: nickcarraway
Bummer.
I just scarfed 4 chili dawgs with onions yesterday.
Yom!
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posted on
05/26/2012 12:52:11 PM PDT
by
mylife
(The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
To: freeperfromnj
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posted on
05/26/2012 12:56:58 PM PDT
by
null and void
(Day 1222 of our ObamaVacation from reality [and what dark chill/is gathering still/before the storm])
To: nickcarraway
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posted on
05/26/2012 12:57:11 PM PDT
by
mylife
(The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
To: mylife
"It was a seven-seat, 250-square-foot piece of ... "Many, many ... (did I say many?), years ago, there was a little hole-in-the-wall joint in Boston by the name of Joe and Nemo's. I think it was on Washington street, on the south end of what was then the red light district.
I remember no seats, standing at a counter only, maybe eight or ten bodies at a time and the specialty was boiled hamburger.
They boiled a hamburger patty and it was damned delicious too.
there was mustard, ketchup , sweet relish and chopped onions on those counters.
You ordered hot dog or hamburger, (I don't remember any drinks .. coke or whatever), fixed it at the counter, and left.
I think I remember something like ten cents a pop.
Many, many ..... er ... many, years ago.
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posted on
05/26/2012 1:02:46 PM PDT
by
knarf
(I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true)
To: nickcarraway
condemned it in the name of "revitalization." great. Like tearing down Penn Station? Like being willing to tear down Grand Central?
Bosh.
To: nickcarraway
It seems like these days the old and time honored is too easily thrown out in favor of the new. There’s nothing better than a really good hotdog with the thick casing that pops when you bite it and with all the fixings. Now I’m hungry for one, or four.
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posted on
05/26/2012 1:06:28 PM PDT
by
albionin
(A gawn fit's eye gettin.)
To: knarf
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posted on
05/26/2012 1:14:32 PM PDT
by
mylife
(The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
To: mylife
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posted on
05/26/2012 1:17:52 PM PDT
by
ErnBatavia
(A conservative, a liberal and a moderate walked into a bar; barkeep said "Hi Mitt")
To: albionin
Amen! It’s hard to find a decent Dawg nowadays
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posted on
05/26/2012 1:21:02 PM PDT
by
mylife
(The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
To: albionin
Great hole in the wall.
Jay's Famous Hot Dogs

Approved and frequented by Me, Boom Boom Mancini, Bernie Kosar, Ernie Shavers and my Son. Pure Americana. The Gyros Rock!
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posted on
05/26/2012 1:29:03 PM PDT
by
mylife
(The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
To: ErnBatavia
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posted on
05/26/2012 1:30:48 PM PDT
by
mylife
(The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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posted on
05/26/2012 1:39:53 PM PDT
by
mylife
(The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
To: mylife
I had a couple of great hot dogs in NYC last week! I also had a great dog at Yankee Stadium! Yankees lost to the Cincinnati Reds. Bummer.
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posted on
05/26/2012 1:39:58 PM PDT
by
Ruy Dias de Bivar
(Anything Goes, Phantom of the Opera, Nice work if you can get it, EVITA. On BROADWAY last week.!)
To: Ruy Dias de Bivar
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posted on
05/26/2012 1:46:55 PM PDT
by
mylife
(The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
To: Ruy Dias de Bivar
Bummer about the Yankers! LOL
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posted on
05/26/2012 1:48:20 PM PDT
by
mylife
(The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
To: mylife
Allow me to jump in and blow the hometown horn for Curtis' Original Coney Island dogs in Cumberland, MD:





The dogs are great, and you don't see drinks like cherry smash or a chocolate rickey served many places anymore......

"As democracy is perfected, the office represents, more and more closely, the inner soul of the people. We move toward a lofty ideal. On some great and glorious day the plain folks of the land will reach their hearts desire at last, and the White House will be adorned by a downright moron."
--H.L. Mencken, The Baltimore Evening Sun, July 26, 1920
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posted on
05/26/2012 8:54:08 PM PDT
by
Viking2002
("Always with the negative waves, Moriarty, always with the negative waves!" - Sgt. Oddball)
To: knarf
It was so long ago that they didn't have hot dogs yet.
They had hot wolves.
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posted on
05/26/2012 9:53:58 PM PDT
by
Erasmus
(BHO: New supreme leader of the homey rollin' empire.)
To: knarf
Later, they did have wieners, but they called them vindoboners.
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posted on
05/26/2012 9:57:12 PM PDT
by
Erasmus
(BHO: New supreme leader of the homey rollin' empire.)
To: nutmeg
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posted on
05/26/2012 9:59:10 PM PDT
by
nutmeg
(So... Clinton was our first black president, and Obama is our first gay president?)
To: Viking2002
Jesse’s Quick Lunch - Harrisonburg, VA
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posted on
05/26/2012 10:34:52 PM PDT
by
wac3rd
(Somewhere in Hell, Ted Kennedy snickers.....)
To: Viking2002
I think I have been to Curtis’ years ago.
I went to college at Frostburg. I remember going with people down to Cumberland, and getting hot dogs. Is this place downtown, right off of Baltimore Street, where they turned Baltimore Street into a pedestrian mall?
I remember having chili dogs, and them calling chili the sauce for the hot dogs.
Places like Curtis’ are great. They are a nice break from the chain restaurants and sameness of so many places nowadays.
To: Dilbert San Diego
That's it - Liberty Street, about two blocks off Baltimore Street, right around the corner from City Hall. Been there for 94 years and still packing them in for lunch. Pop quiz: do you know why they used to (and some still do) call them 'sweat dogs'?

"As democracy is perfected, the office represents, more and more closely, the inner soul of the people. We move toward a lofty ideal. On some great and glorious day the plain folks of the land will reach their hearts desire at last, and the White House will be adorned by a downright moron."
--H.L. Mencken, The Baltimore Evening Sun, July 26, 1920
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posted on
05/26/2012 11:49:37 PM PDT
by
Viking2002
("Always with the negative waves, Moriarty, always with the negative waves!" - Sgt. Oddball)
To: Viking2002
I give up. Why do people call them “sweat dogs”??
To: Dilbert San Diego
I kid you not - back in the day when a man could run a weiner joint and not worry about getting his license yanked by some health department troll, the cook working the counter had to keep up with the lunch orders and the line of customers out the door. So, he'd extend his arm and balance the buns side-by-side from wrist to armpit so he could make 'em a dozen at a time. Hence the nickname, 'sweat dogs'. Some old timers still claim it gave them a little extra flavor. LOL!

"As democracy is perfected, the office represents, more and more closely, the inner soul of the people. We move toward a lofty ideal. On some great and glorious day the plain folks of the land will reach their hearts desire at last, and the White House will be adorned by a downright moron."
--H.L. Mencken, The Baltimore Evening Sun, July 26, 1920
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posted on
05/27/2012 12:06:42 AM PDT
by
Viking2002
("Always with the negative waves, Moriarty, always with the negative waves!" - Sgt. Oddball)
To: nickcarraway
Where did they put the drive-thru? I need a drive-thru. Too much trouble walking in. /s
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posted on
05/27/2012 2:51:55 AM PDT
by
rawhide
To: Viking2002
LOL, about the sweat dogs! Who knows, maybe it did give some extra flavor!!!
To: nickcarraway
Nick- no offense but that place was a dirty place for food. I wax nostalgia my self for some good ole eating places that are bygone of an era.
I just watched the video that site shows. I remember that place. I avoided it like the plague. I am from N.Y. I worked on and off in the city. There were a lot of good places on the cheap at times. Papaya king hot dogs was cheap but better quality depending on which one you went.
He was located in the sleazy red light times square district area which was being changed by Mayor Rudy. That's when Disney was coming in with other companies cleaning it up.
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posted on
05/27/2012 10:55:00 AM PDT
by
johngrace
(I am a 1 John 4! Christian- declared at every Sunday Mass , Divine Mercy and Rosary prayers!)
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