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Shall we gather at the river? - (Roger Ebert and John Wayne)
Chicago Sun Times ^ | May 26, 2012 | Roger Ebert

Posted on 05/28/2012 6:56:20 PM PDT by re_tail20

The first time I saw him, he was striding toward me out of the burning Georgia sun, as helicopters landed behind him. His face was tanned a deep brown. He was wearing a combat helmet, an ammo belt, carrying a rifle, had a canteen on his hip, stood six feet four inches. He stuck out his hand and said, "John Wayne." That was not necessary.

Wayne died on June 11, 1979. Stomach cancer. "The Big C," he called it. He had lived for quite a while on one lung, and then the Big C came back. He was near death and he knew it when he walked out on stage at the 1979 Academy Awards to present Best Picture to "The Deer Hunter," a film he wouldn't have made. He looked frail, but he planted himself there and sounded like John Wayne.

John Wayne. When I was a kid, we said it as one word: Johnwayne. Like Marilynmonroe. His name was shorthand for heroism. All of his movies could have been titled "Walking Tall." Yet he wasn't a cruel and violent action hero. He was almost always a man doing his duty. Sometimes he was other than that, and he could be gentle, as in "The Quiet Man," or vulnerable, as in "The Shootist," or lonely and obsessed, as in "The Searchers," or tender with a baby, as in "3 Godfathers."

He worked all the time. In the 1930s alone, he made 69 movies. Between 1928 and 1963, he made 21 films with John Ford, the man he called "Pappy." He had an effect on people that few other actors ever had. Gene Siskel was interviewing him in the middle of the night during a Chicago location shoot. The Duke had been doing some drinking, to keep warm...

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TOPICS: TV/Movies
KEYWORDS: ebertwayne; johnwayne; movies; rogerebert

1 posted on 05/28/2012 6:56:29 PM PDT by re_tail20
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To: re_tail20

BTTT

My folks loved John Wayne.


2 posted on 05/28/2012 7:09:11 PM PDT by NEWwoman (God Bless America)
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To: re_tail20
"They keep bringing up the fact that America's for the downtrodden. But this new thing of genuflecting to the downtrodden, I don't go along with that. We ought to go back to praising the kids who get good grades, instead of making excuses for the ones who shoot the neighborhood grocery man."

True then. True now.

RIP

3 posted on 05/28/2012 7:11:49 PM PDT by ClearCase_guy (Like Emmett Till, Trayvon Martin has become simply a stick with which to beat Whites.)
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To: re_tail20
I have a lot of his westerns on disk. I think the greatest western of them all is Red River--that early scene when they start the cattle drive, in particular.


4 posted on 05/28/2012 7:21:44 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: NEWwoman

If Hollywood had even a handful of true John Wayne’s, the entire U.S. would be a much better place and our Arizona Sheriff Joe would have lots of help and at least we would have some decent movies for the whole family to see.


5 posted on 05/28/2012 7:25:39 PM PDT by Grams A (The Sun will rise in the East in the morning and God is still on his throne.)
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To: re_tail20
I know lot of people hate on John Wayne. I loved the guy.

I'm not naive, I know he was an actor. But he projected a strong, positive image. In private (and yes, I know his foibles) as well as public.

Hollywierd, today, has very few that did what Wayne and the other old guys did.

I love all of his flicks. But of the later ones...I'll never forgive Bruce Dern for shooting him (The Cowboys) and I will stay up and watch True Grit every stinkin’ time to see him put the reigns in his teeth and ride.

(As an aside, I tried that once. I didn't notice how loosely the reigns were held. Darn near pulled my teeth out and gave myself whiplash,lol)

6 posted on 05/28/2012 7:27:01 PM PDT by berdie
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To: re_tail20

That was a very good article from Roger.

In case anyone was wondering, yes, read it.


7 posted on 05/28/2012 7:31:27 PM PDT by ConservativeMind ("Humane" = "Don't pen up pets or eat meat, but allow infanticide, abortion, and euthanasia.")
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To: re_tail20

One of my all-time favorite human beings, that John Wayne. What a better world it would be if we had more like him.


8 posted on 05/28/2012 7:33:47 PM PDT by davisfh
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To: ConservativeMind

I did as well...and yes I was somewhat surprised it was such a good article.


9 posted on 05/28/2012 7:34:26 PM PDT by berdie
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To: NEWwoman

I grew up watching “The Duke”. I like all his movies but “The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance” is my favorite.


10 posted on 05/28/2012 7:35:24 PM PDT by ohiobushman
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To: re_tail20

John Wayne was the greatest movie actor of all time.

I loved his westerns (naturally) but also enjoyed his war films. There were a handful of miscasts, I think, but a John Wayne movie was a John Wayne movie and it couldn’t be bad. ‘The Sons of Katie Elder’ and ‘The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance’ were always favorites of mine, but ‘Trouble Along the Way’, where Wayne played a football coach at a Notre Dame-type college, may be at the top of my personal list.


11 posted on 05/28/2012 7:38:22 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: re_tail20; Borges
~ John Wayne Bump ~


12 posted on 05/28/2012 7:45:37 PM PDT by Liberty Valance (Keep a simple manner for a happy life :o)
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To: re_tail20
I believe he would have had contempt for the latter-day weirdos of the Right.

No, Roger, he would not. We didn't change, you did.

13 posted on 05/28/2012 7:49:34 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: re_tail20
"In 'True Grit,' for example, that scene where Rooster shoots the rat. That was a kind of reference to today's problems.

LOL how SO very TRUE!

14 posted on 05/28/2012 7:53:06 PM PDT by RoseofTexas
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To: re_tail20

It also reminds us that, although Ebert can profess some flaky ideas at times, the man knows movies- why they are important and how they work in our society; and he can write.


15 posted on 05/28/2012 7:54:44 PM PDT by RedStateRocker
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...

Thanks re_tail20.

GOP won by planting seeds of deception
by Roger Ebert
December 14, 2000

Now that the adventure is over, it might be instructive to consider some of the ideas that seeped into the general consciousness. How and why, for example, did it become established in so many minds that Bush was the presumptive winner and Gore the apparent loser?

What the Republicans did, cleverly, was to establish effective “memes” in the minds of the public and the pundits...


16 posted on 05/28/2012 7:57:27 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (FReepathon 2Q time -- https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: RedStateRocker

True, as much as it pains me to praise Ebert that was an excellent bit of writing.


17 posted on 05/28/2012 7:57:27 PM PDT by Pelham (Marco Rubio, so that we can be the capital of Latin America)
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To: RedStateRocker

Indeed. Informative. Very well written.

Frankly, i’m shocked that Ebert wrote this.


18 posted on 05/28/2012 8:00:35 PM PDT by Liberty Valance (Keep a simple manner for a happy life :o)
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To: Cicero

“Red River” is a great movie no doubt, one of my favorites, but “The Searchers” is the greatest western ever made...


19 posted on 05/28/2012 8:13:29 PM PDT by Crapgame (What should be taught in our schools? American Exceptionalism, not cultural Marxism...)
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To: re_tail20

Wow, awesome read about the Duke! Long article, but worth it.


20 posted on 05/28/2012 8:28:26 PM PDT by Hetty_Fauxvert ( "Be Breitbart, baby!")
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To: Crapgame

I would certainly agree that “The Searchers” is one of the best. Someone made a list of the twelve best westerns ever made, and both were on it. I have that one, too.

Winchester 73, Four Faces West, Rio Bravo. And I really like The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly.


21 posted on 05/28/2012 8:30:59 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Crapgame

Yes, The Searchers is on a rung all to itself. Another great film Wayne made was Stagecoach. Loved that one. And I’ll stay up any night to watch him and Maureen O’Hara paired together in a movie. Now that’s acting, that’s star power.


22 posted on 05/28/2012 8:40:32 PM PDT by navymom1
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To: berdie

I love all of his flicks. But of the later ones...I’ll never forgive Bruce Dern for shooting him (The Cowboys) and I will stay up and watch True Grit every stinkin’ time to see him put the reigns in his teeth and ride.

i think bruce dern gave an interview about being on the set. iirc right before the scene the duke looked at dern and said “uou are about to become the most hated man in america.” why? “because you are going to shoot john wayne in the back.”


23 posted on 05/28/2012 8:41:18 PM PDT by bravo whiskey (If the little things really bother you, maybe it's because the big things are going well.)
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To: bravo whiskey

Well, like I said..I never got over it,lol.

But I will say that Dern plays one of the best bad guys in the industry. I guess someone has to do it.

(BTW, I love your very true tagline:))


24 posted on 05/28/2012 8:51:35 PM PDT by berdie
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To: re_tail20

Wow, that was a good article, especially considering the source!


25 posted on 05/28/2012 9:08:02 PM PDT by Bodleian_Girl
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To: Bodleian_Girl

What’s with the shock about how good this article is? Ebert is a terrific film writer.


26 posted on 05/28/2012 9:11:14 PM PDT by Borges
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To: Borges
"What’s with the shock about how good this article is?"

It's been a while since Ebert wrote anything memorable about a conservative ... and this one is about a conservative icon. "Well written" is a fair criticism. Keep'em coming Roger.

27 posted on 05/28/2012 9:19:34 PM PDT by Liberty Valance (Keep a simple manner for a happy life :o)
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To: re_tail20
"They keep bringing up the fact that America's for the downtrodden. But this new thing of genuflecting to the downtrodden, I don't go along with that. We ought to go back to praising the kids who get good grades, instead of making excuses for the ones who shoot the neighborhood grocery man."

Man, did he ever have that pegged, even 35 years ago........!

"We are not weak if we make a proper use of those means which the God of Nature has placed in our power..... the battle, sir, is not to the strong alone; it is to the vigilant, the active, the brave."

--Patrick Henry, to the Virginia Convention, March 23, 1775


28 posted on 05/28/2012 9:37:12 PM PDT by Viking2002
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To: wafflehouse

bookmark


29 posted on 05/28/2012 10:05:51 PM PDT by wafflehouse (RE-ELECT NO ONE !)
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To: Borges

I think he could have been great. But as is so often the case with those types, they let their political persuasions get in the way of just writing a good story.


30 posted on 05/28/2012 10:07:41 PM PDT by Bodleian_Girl
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To: Cicero
Red River, The Searchers, and They Were Expendable are my three favorite John Wayne flicks. Two John Ford's and a Howard Hawks'.
31 posted on 05/29/2012 1:51:46 AM PDT by Rummyfan (Iraq: it's not about Iraq anymore, it's about the USA!)
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To: re_tail20
John Wayne on list of favorite movie stars, by Harris Interactive:

Forget the youthquake. What America really loves is... old. Whatever Wayne represents — the Old Testament God, a Mount Rushmore face with a permanent scowl, the craggy soul of Frontier or Sunbelt America — he has made the list in each of the Harris poll's 13 years, and he's figured in the top three slots eight times. It's as if the People's Choice Awards kept picking Elvis as favorite singer.

http://www.time.com/time/arts/article/0,8599,1580564,00.html

32 posted on 05/29/2012 5:29:45 AM PDT by PghBaldy
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To: PghBaldy
From 1994 until the latest, 2011, John Wayne in Top 10 of Harris Interactive. Only dead star to be there, in any of the years:

http://www.harrisinteractive.com/NewsRoom/HarrisPolls/tabid/447/mid/1508/articleId/946/ctl/ReadCustom%20Default/Default.aspx

33 posted on 05/29/2012 5:36:24 AM PDT by PghBaldy
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To: re_tail20
Top five John Wayne westerns, in order of importance and quality:

The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance
Fort Apache
Rio Bravo
True Grit
The Shootist

34 posted on 05/29/2012 6:02:14 AM PDT by Cincinatus (Omnia relinquit servare Rempublicam)
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To: re_tail20

bttt


35 posted on 05/29/2012 3:54:20 PM PDT by Pagey (B. Hussein Obama is weak, and is a worse human being than F.D.R., on multiple levels.)
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To: Liberty Valance

I recall Ebert recently saying that he was a big fan of Mark Steyn’s writing.


36 posted on 06/07/2012 12:46:45 PM PDT by Borges
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To: Borges

I went back over my comment and was probably wrong. Watched a documentary about Sam Peckinpah a few days ago and Ebert had glowing reviews of most of his films - even BMTHOAlfredo Garcia. I’m a big Warren Oates fan. I guess my doubts about Ebert can be traced back to his thumbs up reviews of Michael Moore’s Fahrenheit 9-11. I do miss Siskel.


37 posted on 06/07/2012 1:07:42 PM PDT by Liberty Valance (Keep a simple manner for a happy life :o)
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