Skip to comments.Help with Fed Statue RE: At Time Of Obama Birth
Posted on 05/31/2012 7:21:58 PM PDT by abigkahuna
Hello FR iends!
I need help with the Fed Statue Number in force at the time of Obama's birth dealing with conferred citizenship from his mother. The fact that she could not confer natural born citizenship due to the fact that she was not five years a citizen after her 14th birthday.
On a side note, why is this issue no longer valid? Having waded through countless threads over the past four years regarding this issue, I see that this particular statue seemed to have fallen by the wayside. Is there a reason?
Anyway, thanks FRiends for your help with the particular statue and number.
In my best Elaine, “It’s statUTE!”
Why thank you DC Fan, you have helped out an old vet with his spelling, btw, do you have the fed statUTE number that I was seeking?
A child born abroad to one U.S. citizen parent and one alien parent acquires U.S. citizenship at birth under Section 301(g) of the INA provided the U.S. citizen parent was physically present in the United States or one of its outlying possessions for the time period required by the law applicable at the time of the child's birth. (For birth on or after November 14, 1986, a period of five years physical presence, two after the age of fourteen, is required. For birth between December 24, 1952 and November 13, 1986, a period of ten years, five after the age of fourteen, is required for physical presence in the United States or one of its outlying possessions to transmit U.S. citizenship to the child.) The U.S. citizen parent must be genetically related to the child to transmit U.S. citizenship.
there’s a statue near staten island...I think its stationary...maybe you meant which fed staten number was in effect. I think there also might be a staten near statue island, but I’m not for sure. I think I’d look for a statue on statue island first, then if no luck, try staten island. But watch out for the moose, they roam free amongst both the statens AND the statues. If the moose don’t get ya, the medusa will...and then YOU will be a stationary staten...or a statue...not sure if you’ll be a fed statue tho.
>The fact that she could not confer natural born citizenship due to the fact that she was not five years a citizen after her 14th birthday.<
Here we go again — Obozo CANNOT and NEVER WILL become a NBC simply because his old man NEVER was nor became a US citizen.
The smoke and mirrors game just doesn’t let up, does it?
U.S. CITIZENSHIP ACQUIRED BY BIRTH ABROAD
The Immigration and Nationality Act of 1952
In the case of a child born to one U.S. citizen parent and one alien parent, the U.S. citizen parent now had only to be physically present in the United States or its outlying possessions prior to the child’s birth for 10 years, at least 5 of which were after the age of 14. “Physical presence” was different from the concept of “residence” which had applied under the previous statute. The physical presence requirement could be satisfied by mere presence in the United States even if the person had not established a legal residence there.
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I well recall the statute you’re speaking of. Per my recollection, it only came into force if the child was born outside the territorial jurisdiction of the US to an American mother and a non-US citizen father.
If she was five years past the age of fourteen, the law at the time said that she could legally convey US citizenship to her child. If the child were born on US soil, their citizenship was automatically secured.
This is what made the issue of Obama’s actual place of birth so important. It’s a documented fact that Stanley Ann Dunham was just shy of her nineteenth birthday when Barry Jr. was born. If she gave birth to him outside the territorial jurisdiction of the US, then he’s not even a US citizen, much less, a Natural Born Citizen.
This provision of law only applies if he was not, in fact, born in Hawaii.
Thank you Kabar for you assistance.
That is an Immigration Law, so, it would only apply if Obama was born outside of the United States.
See the Immigration and Nationality Act, TITLE III, Section 301, Paragraph(g).
“a person born outside the geographical limits of the United States and its outlying possessions of parents one of whom is an alien, and the other a citizen of the United States who, prior to the birth of such person, was physically present in the United States or its outlying possessions for a period or periods totaling not less than five years, at least two of which were after attaining the age of fourteen years: Provided, That any periods of honorable service in the Armed Forces of the United States, or periods of employment with the United States Government or with an international organization as that term is defined in section 1 of the International Organizations Immunities Act (59 Stat. 669; 22 U.S.C. 288) by such citizen parent, or any periods during which such citizen parent is physically present abroad as the dependent unmarried son or daughter and a member of the household of a person (A) honorably serving with the Armed Forces of the United States, or (B) employed by the United States Government or an international organization as defined in section 1 of the International Organizations Immunities Act, may be included in order to satisfy the physical-presence requirement of this paragraph. This proviso shall be applicable to persons born on or after December 24, 1952, to the same extent as if it had become effective in its present form on that date”
The law has been changed, but, the law that was in effect at the time of his birth, would still apply. It used to read, “a person born outside the geographical limits of the United States and its outlying possessions of parents one of whom is an alien, and the other a citizen of the United States who, prior to the birth of such person, was physically present in the United States or its outlying possessions for a period or periods totaling not less than ten years, at least five of which were after attaining the age of fourteen years: Provided, That any periods....”
Thanks for your help jcsjcm!
LOL! And I’m a Wisconsin ‘skins fan. We should trade houses.
What a mean spirited post.
This is why I love vanities: one can always count on a misspelled word in the title. Yeah, I’m a vet, too. Cheers!
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