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TV Networks going the way of Newspapers?
Business Insider ^ | 6/7/2012 | Henry Blodget

Posted on 06/07/2012 12:44:47 PM PDT by djone

Don't Mean To Be Alarmist, But The TV Business May Be Starting To Collapse, We almost never watch television shows when they are broadcast anymore We rarely watch shows with ads, even on a DVR We watch a lot of TV and movie content, but always on demand and almost never with ads We get our news from the Internet, article by article, clip by clip. The only time we watch TV news live is when there's a crisis or huge event happening somewhere.

(Excerpt) Read more at businessinsider.com ...


TOPICS: Music/Entertainment; TV/Movies
KEYWORDS: networks; tv
"Networks" are completely meaningless. We don't know or care which network owns the rights to a show or where it was broadcast. The only question that's relevant is whether it's available on Netflix, Hulu, Amazon, or iTunes. This means that one of the key traditional "businesses" of TV--the network--is obsolete. The majority of what we pay our cable company is wasted. We get broadband Internet from our cable company, and we use that constantly. But we also get 500 channels that we almost never watch, along with a couple (HBO, Tennis Channel) that we pay extra for and do watch occasionally. We rarely watch TV ads, and when we do, we're usually doing something else at the same time--like typing. Also, the ads seem startlingly intrusive, because we're not used to them.

Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/tv-business-collapse-2012-6#ixzz1x8dtAphd

1 posted on 06/07/2012 12:44:56 PM PDT by djone
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People like large screens and comfortable surroundings. Anyone who has watched a TV show on a crappy 15 inch monitor, surrounded by noise, knows this.


2 posted on 06/07/2012 12:48:01 PM PDT by pabianice
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To: djone

I do not agree with this article. My household watches the local news at 5pm (CST) on a local CBS affiliate. Then we are too lazy to change the channel at 5:30 so we watch CBS Evening News and then we watch the local news again at 6. The local FOX station is not set up in this configuration. Yes, I am irresponsible but it is what......


3 posted on 06/07/2012 12:52:40 PM PDT by HChampagne
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To: djone

We watch tv and get the paper delivered. Most people I know do too.


4 posted on 06/07/2012 12:55:48 PM PDT by stuartcr ("When silence speaks, it speaks only to those that have already decided what they want to hear.")
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To: djone

“Don’t Mean To Be Alarmist, But The TV Business May Be Starting To Collapse.”

Does not compute. Why would I be alarmed? Tingling with anticipation, perhaps — but, not alarmed.


5 posted on 06/07/2012 12:57:19 PM PDT by USFRIENDINVICTORIA
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To: pabianice

I tend to watch the stuff that isn’t for kids on the computer, so my kids can come into the room without me having to scramble to change the channel.


6 posted on 06/07/2012 12:58:40 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: HChampagne

Network News still dwarfs Fox News in terms of viewers.


7 posted on 06/07/2012 12:59:52 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: djone
If they started to deliver honest news casting, business would pick up in an instant.

8 posted on 06/07/2012 1:00:38 PM PDT by BitWielder1 (Corporate Profits are better than Government Waste)
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To: dfwgator

We like the network news for local news.


9 posted on 06/07/2012 1:01:48 PM PDT by stuartcr ("When silence speaks, it speaks only to those that have already decided what they want to hear.")
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To: djone
I seldom watch TV except for the occasional disaster coverage. I do enjoy watching CNN and MSNBC when there is an election to gloat over, like Wisconsin. Tuesday night was the best TV of the year so far. I have satellite with a hundred channels and 95% of the time, there's "nothing on."
10 posted on 06/07/2012 1:02:25 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: djone

It sounds like the author is projecting. The author may live like this (and I know many others that do) but quite a few still watch tv shows, still watch cable shows, still follow news programs, etc.

In 10-20 years, the author may be correct but, right now, the trend is not true although it might soon be.


11 posted on 06/07/2012 1:04:31 PM PDT by OrangeHoof (Our economy won't heal until one particular black man is unemployed.)
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To: HChampagne
so we watch CBS Evening News

The last time I actually watched The CBS Evening News I believe I was in my 20's, Walter Cronkite was still the anchor, and I was still operating under the delusion that government might actually be able to do something positive in my life. Have had no use for it since turning that page.

12 posted on 06/07/2012 1:07:19 PM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: djone

Broadcast networks have issues, largely because their costs are so high and their revenue window so small. Cable networks are fine, they make tons of money even if people aren’t watching live with commercials. Cable companies pay to carry them, Netflix pays to carry them. There’s nothing obsolete about the network at all, it’s still the negotiating unit that buys TV shows to lure your eyeballs.


13 posted on 06/07/2012 1:09:39 PM PDT by discostu (Listen, do you smell something?)
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To: OrangeHoof

Probably so. Lots of young adults don’t care about news at all. I think that is why the computer and Netflix stuff is so popular. No one wants to be exposed to anything unpleasant or bothersome. I imagine it will eventually just be movies and sports. For those that do want news, it will just end up being what they want to hear and agree with.


14 posted on 06/07/2012 1:10:09 PM PDT by stuartcr ("When silence speaks, it speaks only to those that have already decided what they want to hear.")
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To: pabianice

Tried buying a TV that can’t connect to the internet lately? Grabbing stuff from the net no longer means watching it on your computer. TV, blurays, all the game systems, Roku. The only problem is none of them have web browsers they’re all app based, so anything on the cutting edge you’ll have to wait for. But Netflix, Hulu and YouTube are on almost every device that relates to TVs sold in the last 4 years, and Amazon is on close to half and climbing.


15 posted on 06/07/2012 1:13:29 PM PDT by discostu (Listen, do you smell something?)
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To: stuartcr
For those that do want news, it will just end up being what they want to hear and agree with.

Back to the Future....that's how it used to be with newspapers, people generally subscribed to the paper that espoused their political viewpoints, maybe moreso in Europe than here in the US.

16 posted on 06/07/2012 1:17:49 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: USFRIENDINVICTORIA
Good riddance!
17 posted on 06/07/2012 1:19:54 PM PDT by PATRIOT1876 (The only crimes that are 100% preventable are crimes committed by illegal aliens)
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To: stuartcr
We recently cancelled our satellite service and gave away our only TV. Now if we want to be entertained, we watch Amazon Prime, Netflix, Hulu, PBS.org, or any of the hundreds of other streaming video sites on the web.

Real-time TV is dead. Why would I want to sit and be spoon fed propaganda one sound byte at a time, bored out of my skull, suffering through commercials, when I can sift through articles and videos on the web, scan for information, choosing the sources I trust? Same thing with radio: I don't listen in real time; I download the podcasts, find out what will be covered, fast forward to that part, and skip the commercials.

18 posted on 06/07/2012 1:20:06 PM PDT by giotto
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To: stuartcr

People don’t care about TV news because they already know what’s happened thanks to the internet. I give my MIL crap whenever she’s in town because she insists on watching the evening news, I tell her everything that they’re going to cover and 3 big stories that happened that they won’t touch. TV and print news are too slow for a world where most folks are connected to the internet most of the time.


19 posted on 06/07/2012 1:20:29 PM PDT by discostu (Listen, do you smell something?)
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To: djone

I can usually only stand about 10 minutes of any show on TV before the barrage of commercials- it makes mecrazy and I almost immediately change channels

oddly, the DVR does NOT prevent me from watchign commercials- if I see something I am interested I often re-play a commercial- which i would have missed completely if it was NOT recorded

Commercials for stuff I am not interested in I skip though- was not going to buy them anyway

I think a neat commerical venture would be a COMMERCIAL CHANNEL where you can traverse through menus or search functions to FIND commercials you want to see

who’s in with me on that? I only need $11 million startup fees

I will promise to air all ‘green’ commercials for a government grant of twice that

PS did anyone else see that GM commericial recently for $36 dollar A MONTH car lease????? Obama is trying to price the others out of business?

I was in the mall the other day and was surrounded by new GM vehicles- SHAME ON THOSE PEOPLE


20 posted on 06/07/2012 1:27:53 PM PDT by Mr. K (I AM WRITING-IN PALIN/GINGRICH)
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To: discostu
Netflix pays to carry them. There’s nothing obsolete about the network at all

Maybe for the time being. But the networks better wake up and smell the coffee. Already, carriers like Netflix are beginning to produce their own content. I'm currently watching the series called Lilyhammer, Netflix' first original series. I saw a blurb at Amazon.com that was calling for scriptwriters to submit scripts for original content to be produced by Amazon. It's the wave of the future.

21 posted on 06/07/2012 1:28:49 PM PDT by giotto
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To: djone

What’s the downside?


22 posted on 06/07/2012 1:31:22 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Government is the religion of the sociopath.)
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To: giotto

Netflix isn’t going to ever drop the rest of the world for their own content, they produce their own stuff so they’ll always have something that’s immune to contract negotiations. Look at HBO, they produce tons of their own content, and still buy movies. No matter how much Netflix produces, no matter how good it is, there will still be a market for selling Mad Men and Breaking Bad (or the equivalents in the future), so they’ll either buy that content to sell to us or somebody else will.


23 posted on 06/07/2012 1:32:45 PM PDT by discostu (Listen, do you smell something?)
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To: giotto

Good for you.


24 posted on 06/07/2012 1:33:42 PM PDT by stuartcr ("When silence speaks, it speaks only to those that have already decided what they want to hear.")
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To: dfwgator

Or the only local newspaper that’s available.


26 posted on 06/07/2012 1:35:19 PM PDT by stuartcr ("When silence speaks, it speaks only to those that have already decided what they want to hear.")
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To: discostu

Thankfully, I’m not connected to anything that requires a power supply. Besides, I like watching the local news and reading a newspaper.


27 posted on 06/07/2012 1:38:22 PM PDT by stuartcr ("When silence speaks, it speaks only to those that have already decided what they want to hear.")
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To: stuartcr

You’re on the internet right now. You could find out everything your TV and paper will tell you before they do in greater detail without their bias, and all the junk they’re never gonna bother to tell you.


28 posted on 06/07/2012 1:46:14 PM PDT by discostu (Listen, do you smell something?)
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To: djone

The bottom third of the screen is full of moving ads for something else.

Shows start and stop before and after the listed time so you miss a little something each time.

The ads have become too sexualized to watch in mixed company or with children.

The shows are not stand-alone, so no one remembers what happened last week thus nothing makes sense.

They put out a bad product.


29 posted on 06/07/2012 2:49:26 PM PDT by donna (Mitt quote: ...gay couples raising kids. That's the American way...)
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To: stuartcr
Could be your local news is better than mine. Here, they are awful. Very little real, accurate, investigative reporting.

1st segment: car crashes, fires, shootings. Carnage for Entertainment Value.

2nd segment: politics, which is, almost always, press releases from various pols' offices. Propaganda which makes pols look good.

Then weather, then sports. They aren't so bad, but again, real investigative reporting? Almost non-existent.

30 posted on 06/07/2012 2:51:38 PM PDT by FlyVet
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To: FlyVet

And don’t forget the pet in distress.


31 posted on 06/07/2012 3:04:16 PM PDT by donna (Mitt quote: ...gay couples raising kids. That's the American way...)
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To: discostu

I’m not in a hurry.

Stuff we read on the internet, not biased??!!! How can you determine that...by agreeing with it?


32 posted on 06/08/2012 6:26:30 AM PDT by stuartcr ("When silence speaks, it speaks only to those that have already decided what they want to hear.")
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To: FlyVet

Unless you were there, how can you tell news isn’t real or accurate?


33 posted on 06/08/2012 6:28:55 AM PDT by stuartcr ("When silence speaks, it speaks only to those that have already decided what they want to hear.")
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To: stuartcr

By reading multiple sources. Everything is biased but on the net you can easily get news biased in both directions. Or just your favorite direction, which since you hang out here is probably NOT the direction your local TV and paper lean.


34 posted on 06/08/2012 8:10:38 AM PDT by discostu (Listen, do you smell something?)
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To: pabianice

Our TV content is exclusively discs and Internet. We watch it on the living room on a 42” HDTV. The Apple TV handles Netflix, iTunes, WSJ and Vimeo streaming. The Sony BluRay player does Amazon Instant Video and discs.

The only content we watch on a 13” screen is The Bachelorette because it’s free via web but $14 via iTunes.

It’s 2012. Plug your TV into the matrix already.


35 posted on 06/08/2012 8:24:23 AM PDT by ctdonath2 ($1 meals: http://abuckaplate.blogspot.com)
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To: discostu

I neither notice nor care which way they lean.


36 posted on 06/08/2012 9:21:19 AM PDT by stuartcr ("When silence speaks, it speaks only to those that have already decided what they want to hear.")
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To: discostu

I neither notice nor care which way they lean.


37 posted on 06/08/2012 9:21:29 AM PDT by stuartcr ("When silence speaks, it speaks only to those that have already decided what they want to hear.")
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To: ctdonath2

Note that you can no longer buy a TV. You can buy a video unit that sounds like rodents in heat. You can then pay the same amount again for a sound unit. I resent that.


38 posted on 06/08/2012 12:37:34 PM PDT by pabianice
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To: pabianice

Not quite sure what you’re getting at, aside from snide comments about things not being perfect out of the box.

Standard consumer 480i CRT TVs were, on the whole, not exactly exciting in either video nor audio. A low-end 42” 1080p HDTV is far better than the 27” box I paid the same price for 13 years earlier. Of course a $2400 55” LED-LCD panel with a discrete audio system will be much superior, but then you’re paying some 8x as much. Other than the blacks being a bit gray, I had no problem watching _Contraband_ on the aforementioned 42” panel with stock sound ... and I can nit-pick with at serious video/audiophile levels if I want to.

My ideal is indeed to buy a no-receiver no-audio video-only monitor of high visual quality, then deck it out with a good sound system and discrete content processors. I don’t want to pay for OTA/cable TV reception hardware at all, and whatever audio is built into the box _will_ be inadequate. If I resent anything, it’s paying for the bundled mediocrity that forms a “TV” per se.


39 posted on 06/08/2012 1:09:02 PM PDT by ctdonath2 ($1 meals: http://abuckaplate.blogspot.com)
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