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Fossil Discovery: More Evidence for Asia, Not Africa, as the Source of Earliest Anthropoid Primates
Science Daily ^ | 06/07/2012

Posted on 06/07/2012 2:49:58 PM PDT by SeekAndFind

An international team of researchers has announced the discovery of Afrasia djijidae, a new fossil primate from Myanmar that illuminates a critical step in the evolution of early anthropoids -- the group that includes humans, apes, and monkeys. The 37-million-year-old Afrasia closely resembles another early anthropoid, Afrotarsius libycus, recently discovered at a site of similar age in the Sahara Desert of Libya.

The close similarity between Afrasia and Afrotarsius indicates that early anthropoids colonized Africa only shortly before the time when these animals lived. The colonization of Africa by early anthropoids was a pivotal step in primate and human evolution, because it set the stage for the later evolution of more advanced apes and humans there.

The scientific paper describing the discovery appears June 4 in Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences.

For decades, scientists thought that anthropoid evolution was rooted in Africa. However, more recent fossil discoveries in China, Myanmar, and other Asian countries have rapidly altered scientific opinion about where this group of distant human ancestors first evolved. Afrasia is the latest in a series of fossil discoveries that are overturning the concept of Africa as the starting point for anthropoid primate evolution.

"Not only does Afrasia help seal the case that anthropoids first evolved in Asia, it also tells us when our anthropoid ancestors first made their way to Africa, where they continued to evolve into apes and humans," says Chris Beard, Carnegie Museum of Natural History paleontologist and member of the discovery team that also included researchers from Myanmar, Thailand, and France.

Beard is renowned for his extensive work on primate evolution and anthropoid origins. "Afrasia is a game-changer because for the first time it signals when our distant ancestors initially colonized Africa."

(Excerpt) Read more at sciencedaily.com ...


TOPICS: Science; Society
KEYWORDS: asia; evolution; fossil; godsgravesglyphs; primates

1 posted on 06/07/2012 2:50:04 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

Interesting. Thanks for posting.


2 posted on 06/07/2012 3:04:22 PM PDT by onedoug
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To: onedoug
Anybody still remember this:




3 posted on 06/07/2012 3:16:31 PM PDT by SeekAndFind (bOTRT)
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To: SeekAndFind
Well, we used to have poor relations that came from Africa. We were told we were related to Hussein, who's busy these days explaining to Moochelle about how he just had to tell the BJ joke and involving her in it.

Our stock apparently rose much higher than Moochelle's ire June 4th when it was determined we are much more closely related to an Asian ancestor. Cool, now we have a budget surplus and kids with a huge work ethic. What a big difference a few days make!

4 posted on 06/07/2012 3:39:12 PM PDT by STD ([You must help] people in the communityÂ…feel so frustrated, so defeated, so lost, so futureless)
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To: SeekAndFind

This research is racist.


5 posted on 06/07/2012 4:34:35 PM PDT by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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To: TigersEye

RE: This research is racist.

Racism: The doctrine that a certain human race is superior to any or all others.

In what sense does this research meet the above definition?


6 posted on 06/07/2012 4:57:04 PM PDT by SeekAndFind (bOTRT)
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To: SeekAndFind

Yes. It’s saying that humans came from Asia not Africa which makes Asians superior to Africans.


7 posted on 06/07/2012 5:05:40 PM PDT by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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To: TigersEye

RE: It’s saying that humans came from Asia not Africa which makes Asians superior to Africans.

How does the conclusion follow from this observation?


8 posted on 06/07/2012 5:07:10 PM PDT by SeekAndFind (bOTRT)
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To: SeekAndFind

They came first.


9 posted on 06/07/2012 5:10:13 PM PDT by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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To: TigersEye

OK< they came first, but how does that lead to the conclusion that those who came first are genetically superior?


10 posted on 06/07/2012 5:12:44 PM PDT by SeekAndFind (bOTRT)
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To: SeekAndFind
Your definition said nothing about being genetically superior.
11 posted on 06/07/2012 5:15:31 PM PDT by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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To: SeekAndFind
Awesome! GO IRISH!


12 posted on 06/07/2012 5:18:09 PM PDT by Sirius Lee (Goode or Evil, that's the choice.)
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To: TigersEye

RE: Your definition said nothing about being genetically superior.

OK, let’s take the word, “genetically” away... how does being first make one SUPERIOR?

My father came after my grandfather, yet, by my observation (and our family’s observation), he was taller, stronger, faster and even smarter that his old man.

Even my grandfather concedes this.


13 posted on 06/07/2012 5:21:58 PM PDT by SeekAndFind (bOTRT)
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To: Sirius Lee
Well the asteroid took care of that evolutionary path 65 million years ago.
Good work asteroid :^)
14 posted on 06/07/2012 5:28:40 PM PDT by The Cajun (Sarah Palin, Mark Levin......Nuff said.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Racism: The doctrine that a certain human race is superior to any or all others.

But the human race is superior to all others.


15 posted on 06/07/2012 5:38:52 PM PDT by W. W. SMITH (Maybe the horse will learn to sing)
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To: SeekAndFind

Racism: The doctrine that a certain human race is superior to any or all others.

But the human race is superior to all others.


16 posted on 06/07/2012 5:46:47 PM PDT by W. W. SMITH (Maybe the horse will learn to sing)
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To: The Cajun
Well the asteroid took care of that evolutionary path 65 million years ago.

Are you sure?


17 posted on 06/07/2012 6:12:00 PM PDT by Sirius Lee (Goode or Evil, that's the choice.)
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To: SeekAndFind

You’re wound up really tight aren’t you?


18 posted on 06/07/2012 6:15:16 PM PDT by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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To: Sirius Lee

That looks like Chris Bosch.


19 posted on 06/07/2012 6:29:24 PM PDT by Vermont Lt (I just hate our government. All of them. Republican and Democrat.)
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To: TigersEye

RE: You’re wound up really tight aren’t you?

Just following an argument to its logical conclusion...


20 posted on 06/07/2012 6:37:28 PM PDT by SeekAndFind (bOTRT)
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To: SeekAndFind

Making an argument from a facetious comment isn’t logical it’s neurotic.


21 posted on 06/07/2012 6:56:01 PM PDT by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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To: SeekAndFind; windcliff; stylecouncilor
I'm a staunch advocate of Old Testament theology - a Noachide, if you will - and I find this material simply fascinating.

Being far from an expert on any of it - I find molecular biology very difficult, even for its frequent deemphasis of God - yet I can't help but be moved by some of the argumentation contained therein.

From the Wiki entry, for example on "Human mitochondrial DNA haplogroup":

Understanding the evolutionary path of the female lineage has helped population geneticists trace the matrilineal inheritance of modern humans back to human origins in Africa and the subsequent spread across the globe.

The letter names of the haplogroups run from A to Z. As haplogroups were named in the order of their discovery, they do not reflect the actual genetic relationships.

The woman at the root of all these groups is the matrilineal most recent common ancestor (MRCA) for all currently living humans. She is commonly called Mitochondrial Eve.

It's very compelling, and unless one is a "young Earth creationist", which I'm not, nonetheless the "Glory of God" shows forth very clearly to me in these datum, although certainly not conclusive - as good science never really is - yet it can't help but challenge my faculties at least, such as they may be.

22 posted on 06/07/2012 7:40:12 PM PDT by onedoug
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To: TigersEye

RE: Making an argument from a facetious comment isn’t logical it’s neurotic.

Why? we can always assume that the comment is serious... it is always an exercise for the mind.


23 posted on 06/07/2012 7:50:29 PM PDT by SeekAndFind (bOTRT)
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To: Sirius Lee
Are you sure?

Dang asteroid missed one!

24 posted on 06/07/2012 7:55:58 PM PDT by The Cajun (Sarah Palin, Mark Levin......Nuff said.)
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To: StayAt HomeMother; Ernest_at_the_Beach; decimon; 1010RD; 21twelve; 24Karet; 2ndDivisionVet; ...

 GGG managers are SunkenCiv, StayAt HomeMother & Ernest_at_the_Beach
Thanks SeekAndFind.
The Scars of Evolution:
What Our Bodies Tell Us
About Human Origins

by Elaine Morgan
"The most remarkable aspect of Todaro's discovery emerged when he examined Homo Sapiens for the 'baboon marker'. It was not there... Todaro drew one firm conclusion. 'The ancestors of man did not develop in a geographical area where they would have been in contact with the baboon. I would argue that the data we are presenting imply a non-African origin of man millions of years ago.'"
To all -- please ping me to other topics which are appropriate for the GGG list.


25 posted on 06/08/2012 7:10:20 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: The Cajun
Asteroid??? EXCUSE ME???


26 posted on 06/08/2012 8:06:09 PM PDT by null and void (Day 1235 of our ObamaVacation from reality [and what dark chill/is gathering still/before the storm])
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To: SeekAndFind; SunkenCiv

This study is motivated by racism. Why? Because it attempts to reorder the ‘settled’ science about where humans evolved from Africa to Asia. [sarcasm/]


27 posted on 06/09/2012 9:18:11 AM PDT by wildbill (You're just jealous because the Voices talk only to me.)
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To: SeekAndFind

If we all came from asia, when did our wieners get so big?


28 posted on 06/09/2012 9:21:01 AM PDT by Bronco_Buster_FweetHyagh (I cling to guns and religion.)
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To: SunkenCiv
I have had a problem with the out of Africa theory for about thirty years. Asia is a tabula rasa, things might get interesting in a few years.
29 posted on 06/10/2012 2:55:50 PM PDT by Little Bill (Sorry)
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