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I'll Have Another to lead post parade before start of the Belmont
nola.com ^ | June 09, 2012 | Bob Fortus, The Times-Picayune

Posted on 06/09/2012 6:34:26 AM PDT by ETL

ELMONT, N.Y. — New York Racing Association officials were hopeful the Triple Crown bid today by I’ll Have Another would lure a record crowd, more than the record 120,139 who jammed Belmont Park to see Smarty Jones try to cap the Crown, but fail, in 2004.

Although I’ll Have Another has been scratched from the Belmont because of an injured tendon, fans still will see the Derby and Preakness winner. With jockey Mario Gutierrez aboard, I’ll Have Another will lead the post parade for the Belmont Stakes.

"NYRA asked us if we’d be interested, and we told them we’d be honored," said Doug O’Neill, I’ll Have Another’s trainer. "It looks like it’s on. Mario will get on him, and Lava Man will chaperone. (I’ll Have Another) will just lead the post parade, and then he’ll go right off."

Dr. Larry Bramlage, American Association of Equine Practitioners’ on-call veterinarian, said leading the post parade won’t exacerbate I’ll Have Another’s injury.

"It is absolutely of no concern for sub-maximal injury, but would be a concern at a mile and a half at full speed," Bramlage said. "Therefore, I have no concern for his appearance on the racetrack at the head of the Belmont field."

ADJUSTED MORNING LINE: Belmont Park’s line-maker has released an adjusted morning line based on the 11-horse Belmont Stakes field that remains after the scratch of I’ll Have Another.

In the new line, Dullahan is the 9-5 favorite. The early second choice in the adjusted line is Union Rags at 3-1, and Paynter comes next at 7-2.

The other adjusted early odds are Street Life, 8-1; Optimizer, My Adonis and Atigun, 15-1; Unstoppable U, 20-1; and Ravelo’s Boy, Five Sixteen and Guyana Dweej, 30-1.

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TOPICS: Chit/Chat; Hobbies; Miscellaneous; Sports
KEYWORDS: 2012belmontstakes; 2012triplecrown; 2crooked; 2crooked4me; horseracing; illhaveanother
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1 posted on 06/09/2012 6:34:42 AM PDT by ETL
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source for Past Performance: Daily Racing Form, via BelmontStakes.com:
http://www.belmontstakes.com/racing/default.aspx

2 posted on 06/09/2012 6:35:40 AM PDT by ETL (ALL (most?) of the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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To: ETL

This is a profoundly stupid move on their part.


3 posted on 06/09/2012 6:36:28 AM PDT by LittleSpotBlog
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To: LittleSpotBlog

It’s also ‘tacky’ in my view. It’s like your ex-wife showing up at the wedding of your future wife.


4 posted on 06/09/2012 6:46:19 AM PDT by ETL (ALL (most?) of the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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To: ETL

It is, but I suppose Belmont officials wanted to let all those people who paid good money to attend to at least see the horse.


5 posted on 06/09/2012 6:54:26 AM PDT by Amberdawn
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To: ETL

I bet $100 on I’LL HAVE ANOTHER this morning. I know, but you should see the odds.


6 posted on 06/09/2012 6:57:56 AM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: All

My pick: $20 triple box (total cost: $120)

Dullahan, Union Rags, Street Life

Now if I only had the money to bet! Lost my butt in the Preakness with “Went The Day Well”. And I had him to show! He closed like the wind in the Derby despite having all sorts of traffic problems. Didn’t do a thing in the Preakness.


7 posted on 06/09/2012 7:01:30 AM PDT by ETL (ALL (most?) of the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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To: ETL

Soooo...how much money was wagered (and lost) by suckers who bet that horse would win the triple crown?


8 posted on 06/09/2012 7:04:50 AM PDT by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both)
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To: blueunicorn6
I bet $100 on I’LL HAVE ANOTHER this morning. I know, but you should see the odds.

Lol! They must be ASTRONOMICAL!

9 posted on 06/09/2012 7:05:06 AM PDT by ETL (ALL (most?) of the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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To: blueunicorn6

http://www.johnspeedie.com/healy/goldberg.wav


10 posted on 06/09/2012 7:07:58 AM PDT by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both)
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To: BenLurkin
how much money was wagered (and lost) by suckers who bet that horse would win the triple crown?

You mean pre-Triple Crown wagers for a particular horse winning all three races? Like pre-season baseball odds for winning the World Series?

11 posted on 06/09/2012 7:10:45 AM PDT by ETL (ALL (most?) of the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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To: Amberdawn
I suppose Belmont officials wanted to let all those people who paid good money to attend to at least see the horse.

In my opinion, it would have been more appropriate if he was walked around the paddock prior to the other horses coming out. It doesn't look right him 'upstaging' the current field by being on the track with them for the actual race.

12 posted on 06/09/2012 7:17:36 AM PDT by ETL (ALL (most?) of the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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To: ETL

Fugue for Tinhorns from Guys and Dolls

NICELY
I got the horse right here
The name is Paul Revere
And here’s a guy that says that the weather’s clear
Can do, can do, this guy says the horse can do
If he says the horse can do, can do, can do.

(Benny starts singing his part at this time, while Nicely continues:)
Can do - can do - this guy says the horse can do
If he says the horse can do - can do, can do.

(Rusty starts singing his part as the time, while Nicely and Benny continue:)
For Paul Revere I’ll bite
I hear his foot’s all right
Of course it all depends if it rained last night

Likes mud, likes mud, this X means the horse likes mud
If that means the horse likes mud, likes mud
Likes mud.

I tell you Paul Revere
Now this is no bum steer
It’s from a handicapper that’s real sincere
Can do, can do, this guy says the horse can do.
If he says the horse can do - can do - can do.
Paul Revere. I got the horse right here.

BENNY
I’m pickin’ Valentine, ‘cause on the morning line
A guy has got him figured at five to nine
Has chance, has chance, this guy says the horse has chance
if he says the horse has chance, has chance, has chance

I know it’s Valentine, the morning work looks fine
Besides the jockey’s brother’s a friend of mine
Needs race, needs race, this guy says the horse needs race
If he says the horse needs race, needs race, needs race.
I go for Valentine, ‘Cause on the morning line,
The guy has got him figured at five to nine
Has chance, has chance, this guy says the horse has chance
Valentine! I got the horse right here.

RUSTY CHARLIE
But look at Epitaph. he wins it by a half
According to this here in the Telegraph
“Big Threat” - “Big Threat”
This guy calls the horse “Big Threat”
If he calls the horse “Big Threat”,
Big Threat, Big Threat.

And just a minute, boys.
I’ve got the feed box noise
It says the great-grandfather was Equipoise
Shows class, shows class.
This guy says the horse shows class
If he says the horse shows class
Shows class, show’s class.

So make it Epitaph, he wins it by a half
According to this here in the Telegraph.
Epitaph! I got the hore right here!


13 posted on 06/09/2012 7:20:05 AM PDT by xp38
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To: xp38

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G6djgavbp7c


14 posted on 06/09/2012 7:22:52 AM PDT by xp38
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To: ETL
Las Vegas makes book on a lot of things. I suspect this was one of them.

And, yes, the people who run Las Vegas would not think twice about injuring a horse if it meant a big payday.

15 posted on 06/09/2012 7:24:26 AM PDT by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both)
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To: ETL

Thanks for the post.

Racing needs its heroes. This is a class move. The casual fans may not understand it, but the game’s breeders, owners and jocks all appreciate what a loss it is that we don’t have a triple crown contender or winner again this year. This horse has captured the hearts of many.

Again, in my opinion, this is really a class move. I bet before the end of the day, you’ll hear others in the game say the same. I’ll Have Another’s connections would be skewered by the left if they raced today and the colt was injured.

Oldplayer


16 posted on 06/09/2012 7:25:13 AM PDT by oldplayer
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To: oldplayer

A walk around the paddock prior to the other horses coming out would be more appropriate, in my view.

BTW, one of my first jobs as a teen was walking horses at Belmont. This was back in the mid-70s. Got to meet Secretariat’s groom “Shorty”, to see up close and ‘pet’ racing greats Ruffian, Cannonade, Little Current, Forego.


17 posted on 06/09/2012 7:34:10 AM PDT by ETL (ALL (most?) of the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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To: ETL

Those are my picks also, and I’ve been neck-deep in handicapping this race since the Preakness.
I knew the lion’s share of IHA’s money would go to Dullahan,
and will be real interested to see how the rest of it gets
spread around among Paynter, UR, Street Life,etc. I hope Street Life remains a moderate “longshot” at around 8-1
because that will at least ensure a modest triple payoff.
But we need at least one real longshot in there for fourth
to make a decent superfecta. That could be Atigun or My Adonis. The day Street Life was announced for the Belmont
I looked up his PPs and got very excited. I have been touting him for at least two weeks, and only lately, in the last 3-4 days, has he been getting some buzz among the experts-—like long articles in the Daily Racing Form,He will be getting more today as race-time approaches, so his odds may go down further-—his original morning line two weeks ago was 15-1! He is set for a big effort today-—even though I doubt he could beat Dullahan, if the race is run without hitches or glitches (it should be-—the 1 1/2 mile distance pretty much ensures any horse in temporary trouble can get out of it without losing too much ground).
Interesting to note that the ONLY horse remaining in the Belmont field who raced in the first two TCrown races is
OPTIMIZER, who has had miserable performances in all his graded stakes races, with no real excuses. But I even put him fourth in some of my superfecta tickets.
One thing is sure-—without IHA in the race the exotic payoffs will be a bit more decent than with him in it, winning or placing second.


18 posted on 06/09/2012 7:48:43 AM PDT by supremedoctrine
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To: BenLurkin

The odds of I’ll Have Another winning all three Triple Crown races prior to the Derby would have been well over 100-1. He was 15-1 when he won the Derby. Imagine, if there were such bets, and there probably were, how those folks feel today who held tickets. Then again, Dullahan and Union Rags would certainly have not been ‘pushovers’. Excellent longshot pick here is Street Life. Could surprise in the stretch with his good late speed.


19 posted on 06/09/2012 7:50:17 AM PDT by ETL (ALL (most?) of the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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To: BenLurkin

Dullahan, a consistent and quality closer, had problems at the break in the Derby and also was bumped, yet still closed a lot of ground in the stretch missing by less than 2 lengths. Serious contender here.

Union Rags, another excellent closer, also had problems in the Derby (neither him nor Dullahan ran in Preaknesss). He was ‘squeezed’ and had to take up, yet was beaten only 7 lengths by the winner, I’ll Have Another.

Newcomer/longshot “Unstoppable U”, undefeated in only 2 starts, will likely set the pace in the Belmont. Speed holds up better than most people expect in this marathon 1-1/2 mile event.


20 posted on 06/09/2012 7:51:07 AM PDT by ETL (ALL (most?) of the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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To: supremedoctrine
The day Street Life was announced for the Belmont I looked up his PPs and got very excited.

He could easily pay 7 or 8 bucks for show. With a $200 wager, that's a return of $700 or $800. Not a bad payday.

21 posted on 06/09/2012 7:55:01 AM PDT by ETL (ALL (most?) of the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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To: supremedoctrine

Unfortunately, I’ll be at work when the race goes off. And the damn thing isn’t on any local (NY) radio stations anymore! At least the Derby and Preakness weren’t, as far as I knew. There apparently isn’t even a phone number you can call for a live race call. What I did for the Preakness was called my brother and asked him to place the phone near his TV.


22 posted on 06/09/2012 8:00:15 AM PDT by ETL (ALL (most?) of the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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To: ETL

I’m reminded of what my uncle used to say on his way to the race track.... “I hope I breakk even. I need the money.”


23 posted on 06/09/2012 9:09:21 AM PDT by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both)
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To: ETL

Okay, here’s an admittedly ignorant question: suppose I’ll Have Another rests up for a year and gets better.

Can he run the Belmont next year and still qualify as a Triple Crown winner?

Or is the whole point three races in a limited amount of time?


24 posted on 06/09/2012 9:30:52 AM PDT by Blue Ink
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To: Amberdawn

I was thinking about the whole Belmont deal last night and I couldn’t help but wonder...why would you go to the effort and expense to have an “isolation barn” at Belmont where you can monitor the contact with the horses 24 hours a day a few days before the race...if you were fully confident in your medical/veterinary tesing procedures? You wouldn’t.

Also - and I’m sure this is a question that NBC Execs are asking this morning - why would you have your strictest scrutiny of the horses in the last race of the triple crown? Why not have the same procedures at the Derby and the Preakness? This is an issue that horse racing has to fix.


25 posted on 06/09/2012 9:59:06 AM PDT by DJlaysitup
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To: Blue Ink
Can he run the Belmont next year and still qualify as a Triple Crown winner?

No. The Triple Crown races are for 3-yr olds only. Next year, I'll Have Another will be a 4-yr old.
26 posted on 06/09/2012 10:23:36 AM PDT by Signalman ( November, 2012-The End of an Error)
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To: Blue Ink

No. Only 3 year olds can run in the triple crown races. It’s a once in a life time shot for these horses.


27 posted on 06/09/2012 10:25:44 AM PDT by NCMom57
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To: DJlaysitup
Why would you go to all the trouble and expense to have an isolation barn,

They pulled all kinds of needless BS on the horsemen this year. They should be taken to task for it. All they did was upset the horses and make racing look bad. They were even trying to ban the horses from having cooked oats. Ridiculous.

28 posted on 06/09/2012 3:26:04 PM PDT by Pajamajan (Pray for our nation. Thank the Lord for everything you have. Do it today. Don't wait.)
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To: DJlaysitup
Why would you go to all the trouble and expense to have an isolation barn,

They pulled all kinds of needless BS on the horsemen this year. They should be taken to task for it. All they did was upset the horses and make racing look bad. They were even trying to ban the horses from having cooked oats. Ridiculous.

29 posted on 06/09/2012 3:26:05 PM PDT by Pajamajan (Pray for our nation. Thank the Lord for everything you have. Do it today. Don't wait.)
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To: DJlaysitup
Why would you go to all the trouble and expense to have an isolation barn,

They pulled all kinds of needless BS on the horsemen this year. They should be taken to task for it. All they did was upset the horses and make racing look bad. They were even trying to ban the horses from having cooked oats. Ridiculous.

30 posted on 06/09/2012 3:26:11 PM PDT by Pajamajan (Pray for our nation. Thank the Lord for everything you have. Do it today. Don't wait.)
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To: Pajamajan

Union Rags wins it. Good for them.


31 posted on 06/09/2012 3:45:05 PM PDT by Pajamajan (Pray for our nation. Thank the Lord for everything you have. Do it today. Don't wait.)
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To: Pajamajan

Union Rags wins it. Good for them.


32 posted on 06/09/2012 3:45:15 PM PDT by Pajamajan (Pray for our nation. Thank the Lord for everything you have. Do it today. Don't wait.)
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To: Pajamajan

Union Rags, Paynter gets second. Sorry for the multiple posts.


33 posted on 06/09/2012 3:47:56 PM PDT by Pajamajan (Pray for our nation. Thank the Lord for everything you have. Do it today. Don't wait.)
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To: xp38

And here comes the Winnerrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr...................Feetlebaum.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BavRrRNvz8g


34 posted on 06/09/2012 3:47:56 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: ETL

Dullahan lost all chance when he got boxed in and shuffled back. Not a good enough horse apparently to overcome that particular hitch and glitch in the running of the race.
Street Life needed a faster pace I guess to close off of, but still managed a fourth place finish. I was glad to see URags win, and to see it done EXACTLY the way Smith and Baffert were beaten in the Derby and Preakness. Once more going out on the front end, Smith and Baffert got run down in the final yards, in the first two races by IHA, and in this one by UR, playing the role of IHA. I saw URags in his stable on the NBC coverage
and emailed a friend “He looks so vibrant, almost unreal, like a computer graphic. I KNOW he will win!”
Unfortunately I had him on too few super tickets on top, but I had Dullahan also and Street Life and the 20-1 shot,
Atigun too and Paynter. Dullahan screwed up all my tickets, but those are the breaks. I was suprised there were no superhuge longshots, as in Belmonts past. I think that was because with IHA out, no one could feel bad by betting against him , and there was no excitement in betting on UR or Dullahan or Paynter, so instead they spread a little more money around on the hopeless longies.


35 posted on 06/09/2012 5:49:41 PM PDT by supremedoctrine
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To: DJlaysitup

Drug testing always lags behind the “chemists” who come up with new “medicines” to use. There has to be a specific test for a specific drug before any horse can be said to be drugged. Unknown substances may be found in a horses blood or urine samples, but unless and until a drug lab can identify and quantify it, that horse’s trainer and owner can’t be penalized. Isolation barns are also for security, as rival’s for the race can drug a horse intentionally to force a “positive” test. Every state’s racing board sets it’s own standards as to the amount of scrutiny horses receive before a race. Bill Heller touched on this subject in a book some years ago. I forget the title, unfortunately.


36 posted on 06/09/2012 8:46:09 PM PDT by Amberdawn
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To: ETL

True, but I’m guessing that since he did win the KD and Preakness, and he will never race again, it was meant to honor him.


37 posted on 06/09/2012 8:50:52 PM PDT by Amberdawn
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