Skip to comments.Vanity- Remember "Brubaker"?
Posted on 06/09/2012 8:47:14 PM PDT by One Name
Toured the Cummins Unit of the Arkansas Department of Corrections last week. The only thing I could relate it to was Angola, LA.
The heat and haze was intense as the crews rode out and in on cart trains pulled by a tractor, with 5 armed horseback officers surrounding each 60-70 man detail.
18000 acres of bottom ground, much of which was vegetables that were hand-hoed by these crews to feed the rest of the ADC.
Its something you have to see to apprehend.
Been there, Angola and Parchman when I was in the ag business.
Parchman is the one I haven’t seen. They said something like 95% of the inmates at Angola would die there. The ones in the broom factory were happy to be out of the fields. The ones in the vegetable freezer plant thought they were already in heaven.
Brubaker was filmed outside of Columbus Ohio.
Je Me Souviens
the triangle where the bodies were buried is off the levee at Cummins.
I don’t speak French.
Starred Saint Robert Redford, didn’t it?......
Building tenders was the story, not RR.
You’d have fared well I’m sure.
I’m not just a bleeding heart- I;ve spent a long time in the business but injustice displeases our God.
Yes - and a young Morgan Freeman.
As I cruise the channels I see this movie in on often. Never watched it.
I remembger well that AR once would brag, once in our prison system, it will make one think twice about coming back.
>Its something you have to see to apprehend.
This sentence in internally inconsistent - makes no sense.
Same here, although I did watch it about 10 years ago.
My opinion: Nothing memorable.
Had these inmates no victims? Should the impoverished, sweating, laboring, ill-housed taxpayers of Arkansas dig a little deeper to pay for an air-conditioned life of leisure as a reward for criminals? Let’s not talk about injustice and God’s displeasure with a thumb on the scale.
one of the SGt’s in my unit is a horse rider there at Cummins
Been out of the loop awhile, but.
When you, under your state’s constitution take authority over convicted felons and make them wards of the state- you are now their keeper.
You mentioned a life of leisure and air conditioning, did I?
Do you have a clue about penal systems? I’ve been in one for 3 decades. There but for the grace of God go I...
If you need some scriptures to meditate on, let me know.
When inmates are in charge of inmates the state has relinquished it’s authority over convicted felons. I would offer that each state’s constitution places these convicted felons as wards of that state, and the duty to provide a certain humane environment flows therefrom.
Seizing the fullness of it with your eyes may well be different than reading about it....
Tough concept for some.
It’s a trip back in time. God’s judgement here on earth! Those prisoners will have something to think about when and if they get out...
I can’t knock it, but you don’t find that mindset north of Mason-Dixon much.
I’m a Missouri boy with one foot in each camp.
Have you seen it?
No, but I doubt I have handcuffs suitable for apprehending it.
Apologies for being unnecessarily provocative. The thread got me thinking about why the conditions you described were as they were, what it would take to change them significantly in an impoverished state like Arkansas (either higher taxes to further depress the economy or cuts in services to non-criminals), and the evil most of the inmates have willfully wrought to get where they are. I completely agree that abuse, exploitation, and neglect of inmates is unacceptable (legally or morally).
I was going to apologize to you for being thin-skinned....
Redford was cool when I was a kid but he’s not a hero of mine and the topic was substantive.
Been offline awhile since the above but I thought I had seen you posting good stuff since I’ve been here.
Agree with your assessment of the system. The southern states have some right thinking but some wrong baggage.
They are working thru it.
Take care FRiend!
The penal system in the deep south is an eye-opener for Yankees (which I have no clue whether you are).
You got all day to catch a runaway from a hoeing crew in 18000 acres of delta bottom ground. I gathered that not many try...
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