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Vanity- Remember "Brubaker"?
n/a | 6/9/2012 | One Name

Posted on 06/09/2012 8:47:14 PM PDT by One Name

Toured the Cummins Unit of the Arkansas Department of Corrections last week. The only thing I could relate it to was Angola, LA.

The heat and haze was intense as the crews rode out and in on cart trains pulled by a tractor, with 5 armed horseback officers surrounding each 60-70 man detail.

18000 acres of bottom ground, much of which was vegetables that were hand-hoed by these crews to feed the rest of the ADC.

Its something you have to see to apprehend.


TOPICS: History; Society
KEYWORDS: arkansas; prison

1 posted on 06/09/2012 8:47:28 PM PDT by One Name
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To: One Name

Been there, Angola and Parchman when I was in the ag business.


2 posted on 06/09/2012 8:54:09 PM PDT by razorback-bert (I'm in shape. Round is a shape isn't it?)
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To: One Name
The only Brubaker I am aware of is Curtis Brubaker. He designed this in the late 60's. I wanted one...still do.


3 posted on 06/09/2012 8:59:30 PM PDT by prisoner6 (Right Wing Nuts bolt the Constitution together as the loose screws of the Left fall out!)
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To: razorback-bert

Parchman is the one I haven’t seen. They said something like 95% of the inmates at Angola would die there. The ones in the broom factory were happy to be out of the fields. The ones in the vegetable freezer plant thought they were already in heaven.


4 posted on 06/09/2012 9:00:55 PM PDT by One Name (Go to the enemy's home court and smoke his ass.)
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To: One Name

Brubaker was filmed outside of Columbus Ohio.


5 posted on 06/09/2012 9:02:09 PM PDT by whitedog57
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To: One Name

Je Me Souviens


6 posted on 06/09/2012 9:04:55 PM PDT by onona (So long Doc Watson, you were an inspiration.)
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To: whitedog57

the triangle where the bodies were buried is off the levee at Cummins.


7 posted on 06/09/2012 9:05:44 PM PDT by One Name (Go to the enemy's home court and smoke his ass.)
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To: onona

I don’t speak French.


8 posted on 06/09/2012 9:07:51 PM PDT by One Name (Go to the enemy's home court and smoke his ass.)
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To: One Name

Starred Saint Robert Redford, didn’t it?......


9 posted on 06/09/2012 9:15:26 PM PDT by Intolerant in NJ
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To: One Name

“We Remember”


10 posted on 06/09/2012 9:19:53 PM PDT by onona (So long Doc Watson, you were an inspiration.)
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To: Intolerant in NJ

Building tenders was the story, not RR.

You’d have fared well I’m sure.


11 posted on 06/09/2012 9:24:53 PM PDT by One Name (Go to the enemy's home court and smoke his ass.)
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To: onona

I’m not just a bleeding heart- I;ve spent a long time in the business but injustice displeases our God.

Thanks.


12 posted on 06/09/2012 9:30:04 PM PDT by One Name (Go to the enemy's home court and smoke his ass.)
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To: whitedog57
Yeah. I was living on Columbus at the time. A lot of interesting stories came out about the old prison that was used for the film.
Not very many of the flattering to the Ohio Penal System at the time.
Many of the 'extras' were former prison inmates from the central Ohio area. A motley group to be sure.
13 posted on 06/09/2012 9:33:51 PM PDT by Tainan (Cogito, ergo conservatus sum)
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To: Intolerant in NJ
Starred Saint Robert Redford, didn’t it?......

Yes - and a young Morgan Freeman.

14 posted on 06/09/2012 9:39:16 PM PDT by TexasNative2000 (Jimmy Carter's incompetence + Richard Nixon's paranoia = Barack Obama)
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To: One Name

huh ?


15 posted on 06/09/2012 10:14:11 PM PDT by onona (So long Doc Watson, you were an inspiration.)
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To: One Name; fieldmarshaldj; GOPsterinMA; Perdogg

As I cruise the channels I see this movie in on often. Never watched it.


16 posted on 06/09/2012 10:17:07 PM PDT by Impy (Don't call me red.)
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I remembger well that AR once would brag, once in our prison system, it will make one think twice about coming back.


17 posted on 06/10/2012 1:16:23 AM PDT by Sea Parrot (Youth And Brawn Are No Match For Age And Treachery. I'm Old And May Not Fight. I'll Shoot Instead.)
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To: One Name

>Its something you have to see to apprehend.

This sentence in internally inconsistent - makes no sense.


18 posted on 06/10/2012 4:14:09 AM PDT by bill1952 (Choice is an illusion created between those with power - and those without)
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To: Impy; One Name; fieldmarshaldj

Same here, although I did watch it about 10 years ago.

My opinion: Nothing memorable.


19 posted on 06/10/2012 5:28:44 AM PDT by GOPsterinMA (The Glove don't fit.)
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To: One Name

Had these inmates no victims? Should the impoverished, sweating, laboring, ill-housed taxpayers of Arkansas dig a little deeper to pay for an air-conditioned life of leisure as a reward for criminals? Let’s not talk about injustice and God’s displeasure with a thumb on the scale.


20 posted on 06/10/2012 6:13:25 AM PDT by Chewbarkah
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To: One Name

one of the SGt’s in my unit is a horse rider there at Cummins


21 posted on 06/10/2012 7:07:47 AM PDT by 09Patriot (your freedom to be you, includes my freedom to be from you.--Wilkow)
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To: Chewbarkah

Been out of the loop awhile, but.

When you, under your state’s constitution take authority over convicted felons and make them wards of the state- you are now their keeper.

You mentioned a life of leisure and air conditioning, did I?

Do you have a clue about penal systems? I’ve been in one for 3 decades. There but for the grace of God go I...

If you need some scriptures to meditate on, let me know.


22 posted on 06/22/2012 7:52:00 PM PDT by One Name (Go to the enemy's home court and smoke his ass.)
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To: GOPsterinMA

When inmates are in charge of inmates the state has relinquished it’s authority over convicted felons. I would offer that each state’s constitution places these convicted felons as wards of that state, and the duty to provide a certain humane environment flows therefrom.


23 posted on 06/22/2012 7:56:03 PM PDT by One Name (Go to the enemy's home court and smoke his ass.)
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To: bill1952

Seizing the fullness of it with your eyes may well be different than reading about it....

Tough concept for some.


24 posted on 06/22/2012 8:02:12 PM PDT by One Name (Go to the enemy's home court and smoke his ass.)
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To: One Name
Its something you have to see to apprehend.

lol

25 posted on 06/22/2012 8:05:15 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: 09Patriot

It’s a trip back in time. God’s judgement here on earth! Those prisoners will have something to think about when and if they get out...

I can’t knock it, but you don’t find that mindset north of Mason-Dixon much.

I’m a Missouri boy with one foot in each camp.


26 posted on 06/22/2012 8:07:17 PM PDT by One Name (Go to the enemy's home court and smoke his ass.)
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To: Lancey Howard

Have you seen it?


27 posted on 06/22/2012 8:09:13 PM PDT by One Name (Go to the enemy's home court and smoke his ass.)
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To: One Name
Have you seen it?

No, but I doubt I have handcuffs suitable for apprehending it.

28 posted on 06/22/2012 9:15:11 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: One Name

Apologies for being unnecessarily provocative. The thread got me thinking about why the conditions you described were as they were, what it would take to change them significantly in an impoverished state like Arkansas (either higher taxes to further depress the economy or cuts in services to non-criminals), and the evil most of the inmates have willfully wrought to get where they are. I completely agree that abuse, exploitation, and neglect of inmates is unacceptable (legally or morally).


29 posted on 06/25/2012 9:24:00 AM PDT by Chewbarkah
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To: Chewbarkah

I was going to apologize to you for being thin-skinned....

Redford was cool when I was a kid but he’s not a hero of mine and the topic was substantive.

Been offline awhile since the above but I thought I had seen you posting good stuff since I’ve been here.

Agree with your assessment of the system. The southern states have some right thinking but some wrong baggage.

They are working thru it.

Take care FRiend!


30 posted on 06/25/2012 8:11:29 PM PDT by One Name (Go to the enemy's home court and smoke his ass.)
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To: Lancey Howard

lol!

The penal system in the deep south is an eye-opener for Yankees (which I have no clue whether you are).

You got all day to catch a runaway from a hoeing crew in 18000 acres of delta bottom ground. I gathered that not many try...


31 posted on 06/25/2012 8:24:35 PM PDT by One Name (Go to the enemy's home court and smoke his ass.)
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