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Germanyís Green Energy Policy Hit Households Hard
Canada Free Press ^ | June 10, 2012 | Jack Dini

Posted on 06/11/2012 7:05:15 AM PDT by Twotone

Many people in Germany are no longer able to pay their electricity bills. Skyrocketing electricity prices are making electricity unaffordable for a large number of Germans. The past year over 600,000 households had their power switched off in Germany because they can’t afford the skyrocketing electric bills.(1)

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Society
KEYWORDS: agenda21; climatechange; electricity; germanyelectricity; globalwarming; globalwarminghoax; greenenergy

1 posted on 06/11/2012 7:05:27 AM PDT by Twotone
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To: Twotone

But they feel good (for doing nothing for the environment). That’s what is important.


2 posted on 06/11/2012 7:08:31 AM PDT by cicero2k
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To: Twotone

Coming soon to the Obamanation if we fail in November. (although I hear it could be happening in California this summer)


3 posted on 06/11/2012 7:11:38 AM PDT by Nowhere Man (General James Mattoon Scott, where are you when we need you? We need a regime change.)
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To: Twotone

“Skyrocketing electricity prices are making electricity unaffordable for a large number of Germans.”

Which is exactly the point of the EnviroNazi agenda.


4 posted on 06/11/2012 7:11:52 AM PDT by tcrlaf (Election 2012: THE RAPTURE OF THE DEMOCRATS)
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To: tcrlaf
Which is exactly the point of the EnviroNazi agenda.

Your Electricity Bill is About to Necessarily Skyrocket [in USA]

5 posted on 06/11/2012 7:17:15 AM PDT by thouworm (.)
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To: tcrlaf

They want us to live in caves.


6 posted on 06/11/2012 7:17:30 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: cicero2k

“The government’s planned energy transition was supposed to, among other things, produce environmentally friendly electricity. It turns out, however, that the power gap which was created by the shutdown of eight nuclear power stations, will be largely filled by brown coal.”

How ironic, no nukes = more coal. Stupid govt. results in more polution.


7 posted on 06/11/2012 7:19:10 AM PDT by woodbutcher1963
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To: tcrlaf

I wonder if government offices are charged the same rates.


8 posted on 06/11/2012 7:20:13 AM PDT by Pecos (Constitution? Oh, you mean that thing we USED to have.)
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To: tcrlaf

Freezing human beings to death is an excellent way to reduce the population!


9 posted on 06/11/2012 7:21:38 AM PDT by miss marmelstein
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To: Twotone

I do not see how the average increase in 3.5 % results in people not being able to pay their bill.

For example, if your bill was $100 and is now $103.50, there must be some other mitigating factor causing the you to not be able to pay it.


10 posted on 06/11/2012 7:24:59 AM PDT by woodbutcher1963
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To: Twotone

Just like the Japanese...they’ll be turning their nukes back on real soon. Most enviro-idiots like to talk green, until they have to start writing the checks to pay for it. Especially when many of the greenies lose their jobs, because manufacturing is chased out by high energy costs.


11 posted on 06/11/2012 7:25:24 AM PDT by rottndog (Be Prepared....for what's coming AFTER America...)
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To: Twotone

They never learn ...

years ago, Germany introduced a recycling campaign “The Dual System”. Instead of throwing away packaging materials (tins, plastic wrap, joghurt cups ...), they *wash* them then dispose of them in special yellow bags / containers. This is then taken to a recycling center / burned.

Sounds great and they became real masters at it in the hopes of saving money AND doing something for the environment!

Then the law of unintended consequences struck. The local refuse removal & disposal companies, which were paid by quantity / weight suddenly could not cover thier core operational expenses - SO they raised the rates. So now the Germans essentially have been hit twice - additional expense of separating & washing packaging AND additional costs for the removal & disposal of the “rest”.

Now - the electric companies are raising rates because they can’t cover thier core expenses due to the “we must save energy at all costs” meme. So now they pay more for thier light bulbs and most other products, pay additional taxes on energy consumption to stuff holes in the thier Social Security System AND the rates for electricity go UP.

Great Savings, coming to a country near you!


12 posted on 06/11/2012 7:31:14 AM PDT by An.American.Expatriate (Here's my strategy on the War against Terrorism: We win, they lose. - with apologies to R.R.)
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To: Twotone

Cheap + plentiful energy = freedom.

And vice versa.


13 posted on 06/11/2012 7:33:13 AM PDT by Moltke (Always retaliate first.)
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To: An.American.Expatriate

The only time I’ve heard of people washing packaging material for recycling was in satire (making fun of the over-the-topness of the whole concept). In the real world, not so much. (Though it’s probably true that a few nutty individuals would do that.)


14 posted on 06/11/2012 7:51:30 AM PDT by Moltke (Always retaliate first.)
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To: Nowhere Man

WE? So you have figured out to vote for Virgil Goode, too?


15 posted on 06/11/2012 7:52:07 AM PDT by MrEdd (Heck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.)
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To: woodbutcher1963
For example, if your bill was $100 and is now $103.50, there must be some other mitigating factor causing the you to not be able to pay it.

4.5 Million people receive "Hartz IV" which is about 400€ / month - prices and usage of course vary greatly, but I've seen published averages of between 80 & 100 € / month ...

16 posted on 06/11/2012 7:54:35 AM PDT by An.American.Expatriate (Here's my strategy on the War against Terrorism: We win, they lose. - with apologies to R.R.)
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To: Moltke
The only time I’ve heard of people washing packaging material for recycling was in satire (making fun of the over-the-topness of the whole concept).

Like Phil Hartman's "Anal-Retentive Chef" on SNL.

17 posted on 06/11/2012 7:54:52 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Twotone

A scene from the play-movie BECKET.

King Henry is caught out in a rainstorm and soaked. He and Becket go to a hovel hovel where King Henry makes demands.

Henry: I want fire and warmth!
Becket: You will find no fire here sire.
Henry: And why is that!
Becket: Each hovel is allowed two measures of wood a year. One stick more and they are hanged.
Henry: My edict?
Becket:Your edict sire.


18 posted on 06/11/2012 7:55:26 AM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar (I LIKE ART! Click my name. See my web page.)
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To: Moltke
The only time I’ve heard of people washing packaging material for recycling was in satire (making fun of the over-the-topness of the whole concept). In the real world, not so much. (Though it’s probably true that a few nutty individuals would do that.)

Oh ita quite true - in fact it is even required and you can be fined if caught disposing of unwashed trash in the yellow bags / containers.

19 posted on 06/11/2012 8:03:18 AM PDT by An.American.Expatriate (Here's my strategy on the War against Terrorism: We win, they lose. - with apologies to R.R.)
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To: MrEdd
WE? So you have figured out to vote for Virgil Goode, too?

Vote for a lifelong democrat? Huh?

Someone please explain how Goode gets so much traction on a conservative website.

20 posted on 06/11/2012 8:06:56 AM PDT by raybbr (People who still support Obama are either a Marxist or a moron.)
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To: Twotone

Wait until the skyrocketing price of energy hits Japan. Didn’t they just shut down 20 some nuclear power plants??? Where will their energy come from now???


21 posted on 06/11/2012 8:18:13 AM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: Twotone
And this country is the economic powerhouse of Europe?

Funny how those impressive and intimidating statistics look less so when someone discloses what the actual standard of living there is like.

22 posted on 06/11/2012 8:31:54 AM PDT by danielmryan
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To: Twotone; TEXOKIE; ELVISNIXON.com; SunkenCiv; E. Pluribus Unum; CharlyFord; cripplecreek; ...
On the west coast the Agenda 21 disciples are busy working on tearing out clean and renewable energy producing hydro electric dams under the name of environmentalism.

As usual their goal is not about the environment.

23 posted on 06/11/2012 8:34:07 AM PDT by Baynative (REMEMBER: Without America there is no free world!)
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To: Moltke

Actually, my town (run by typical green lefties) pushes recycling (althouogh you aren’t fined for not complying...yet). To recycle plastics & glass, they have to be clean. They’ll take the containers plants come in, & I spent part of my Sunday washing the dirt off the containers after I got my deck plants in.

And if you recycle paper/cardboard, it can’t have food residue on it. And I’ve been told that if any contaminents are found, they have to toss the load. It made me laugh, as my insanely leftie, green sister doesn’t bother to rinse out her tin cans.


24 posted on 06/11/2012 8:38:01 AM PDT by Twotone (Marte Et Clypeo)
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To: Twotone

The only material that is worth recycling is aluminum. Pulling the aluminum cans out is a profit source.

All other materials(glass,tin cans, plastics, paper) have lower removal costs for my town in NH. However, we still have to pay to haul them away. It just costs less/ton than mixed trash.


25 posted on 06/11/2012 8:50:10 AM PDT by woodbutcher1963
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To: Moltke

“The only time I’ve heard of people washing packaging material for recycling was in satire”

I actually know quite a few people who wash them. I think they mainly do it because the recycle bin gets disgusting over time.

I am, however, a total slob. I just cleaned my fridge out Sunday and put 1/2 full jars of all kinds of things in the recycle bin.


26 posted on 06/11/2012 8:51:08 AM PDT by No Socialist
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To: Twotone

There is now a much better way around extremes of heat or cold, which is the majority of residential energy consumption.

A synthetic material first made in 1931, aerogel is unsurpassed as a physical heat insulator. A 3mm layer of it is equivalent to about a foot and a half of fiberglass insulation. A house insulated with it would use just a fraction of the energy of a modern house. It could also line ovens and refrigerators.

However, aerogel was just an oddity for many years, because it was both terribly expensive to make and quite brittle, but in 2000, commercial production began of aerogel blankets, in thin, flexible sheets, and at far less cost.

It is still fairly expensive, but no one has yet begun large scale production of it, which would radically change the energy equation.

At mass production cost, though retrofitting an entire home would be expensive, a single, interior room could be kept very warm in winter with just body heat and a light bulb, and very cold in summer with a small air conditioner set on low.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aerogel


27 posted on 06/11/2012 9:23:27 AM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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To: Twotone

After all that washing, what about the pollutants washing down the drain and eventually into the water supply? Speaking of the water supply, how much water is being wasted from all that washing? How much extra energy are they now having to use to clean up the water? The more that goes through the drains, the more breaks and clogs.


28 posted on 06/11/2012 9:35:09 AM PDT by bgill
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To: An.American.Expatriate; Twotone; No Socialist

Hmmm, looks like I’m out-voted 3:1.

(But I still find it hard to believe. Any organic matter left in/on the packaging should be easily dealt with at the recycling plant, IMO. Especially if the stuff is incinerated anyway.)


29 posted on 06/11/2012 11:13:44 AM PDT by Moltke (Always retaliate first.)
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To: dfwgator

Yep, that’s exactly what I meant. Doesn’t look like I’ve got any support for that opinion, though. Sounds like there’s actually folks out there who scrub their joghurt cups before discarding them. LOL. Stupid just never dies.


30 posted on 06/11/2012 3:27:07 PM PDT by Moltke (Always retaliate first.)
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To: MrEdd

Well, I’m voting for Romney, he’s not my first choice but he is the only one to get Obama out of office. Almost anybody is better than Obama and who knows, maybe Romney will surprise us and be a good President.


31 posted on 06/11/2012 4:52:47 PM PDT by Nowhere Man (General James Mattoon Scott, where are you when we need you? We need a regime change.)
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32 posted on 06/11/2012 5:07:28 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Occupy DC General Assembly: We are Marxist tools. WE ARE MARXIST TOOLS!)
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To: Nowhere Man

I have zero interest in one personality over another.
Even in highschool, I didn’t give a crap about personalities.

I only care about Ideologies.
Social issues trump fiscal issues.

Romney is no different than Obonghit on social issues.

Ergo, I will vote for someone better.

It is more important to stand justified before God than to win one office in an election. All nations fail over time, but your soul is eternal and God judges how you hold to his standards.


33 posted on 06/11/2012 6:15:11 PM PDT by MrEdd (Heck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

You may NOT live in caves.

Caves are ‘living’, and touching any of the formations kills them.

Light from any source encourages the growth of algae, which destroys the pristine nature of the cave.

ALL cave formations, public or private, are protected by federal statute, so it is illegal to alter the interior of the caves in any manner, to make it habitable.

You must live in the open, under the stars, without any artificial heat, light, or shelter; and above all, not in any place, way, shape, or form, that negatively impacts in any way any natural plant, animal, or mineral.

Exceptions will be made for Official Protectors Of The Earth, who may maintain up to 3 residences on each continent; not to exceed 20,000 Square Feet each; nor use more than an average of 12,500 KWH/month each.


34 posted on 06/11/2012 7:25:02 PM PDT by ApplegateRanch (Love me, love my guns!©)
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To: Moltke
The only time I’ve heard of people washing packaging material for recycling was in satire (making fun of the over-the-topness of the whole concept). In the real world, not so much. (Though it’s probably true that a few nutty individuals would do that.)

We're required to wash glass, plastic & metal containers; and remove the labels, before recycling them.

35 posted on 06/11/2012 7:33:06 PM PDT by ApplegateRanch (Love me, love my guns!©)
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To: Einigkeit_Recht_Freiheit

Comments?


36 posted on 06/12/2012 3:43:13 AM PDT by palmer (Jim, please bill me 50 cents for this completely useless post)
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