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Key West seeks to ban vehicle sleeping
upi ^ | June 14, 2012

Posted on 06/15/2012 3:16:53 AM PDT by JoeProBono

KEY WEST, Fla.-- Residents of Key West, Fla., who live in their vehicles are objecting to officials seeking to ban "lodging" in vehicles.

The Key West City Commission approved the new rules June 5, but the law must still pass a second public hearing and approval before it takes effect, KeysNet.com reported Thursday.

The ordinance, which was proposed by Mayor Craig Cates, states "lodging" in vehicles "constitutes a hazard to the health and safety of the residents (and) visitors to the city" and has "a significant negative impact that creates an adverse effect on tourism and the environment."

Kurt Wagner, who said he lives in a 1999 Dodge, said he objects to the law.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Chit/Chat; Outdoors; Society
KEYWORDS: florida; keywest

1 posted on 06/15/2012 3:17:03 AM PDT by JoeProBono
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To: JoeProBono

A man’s home....is his castle....even if it was a 1965 Dodge.


2 posted on 06/15/2012 3:18:29 AM PDT by pepsionice
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To: pepsionice

If the economy were to break down as Obama has been planning, expect to see a lot more of this. He wants these people! Tired, Hungry, living in cars, boxes, etc. so that he can promise them all your crap. A veritable army zombie-like followers to do his bidding.


3 posted on 06/15/2012 3:23:36 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: Gaffer

ah! dependency, dont you just love it. These are the new army hooked on government heroin ready to do thier bidding for a few crumbs at the end of the day


4 posted on 06/15/2012 3:30:11 AM PDT by ronnie raygun (B B)
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To: ronnie raygun

What about sleeping in your converted luxury bus or RV....is this law simply a way of controlling poorer people?


5 posted on 06/15/2012 3:32:10 AM PDT by mountaineer1997
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To: JoeProBono

This is the photo that should define anti-Obama advertizing for the 2012 election.

That man isn’t some bum that chooses to do the ‘urban camping’ thing. Before the policies of the Democrat Party became prominent with the Pelosi takeover, this was rare. Since then it’s far more common...BECAUSE of their green regulations, their financial regulations, their ignoring law in favor of agenda and their social engineering towards Communist existence.

This is the result of the Democrats given power. And irony is that there’s a 50 50 chance this guy voted for Obama. Print it out and hand it to liberals. George Bush did not put him in a trunk. Democrats did.


6 posted on 06/15/2012 3:32:39 AM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: Norm Lenhart

Well technically you need an address to get welfare or vote but you still are probably right.


7 posted on 06/15/2012 3:41:53 AM PDT by Average Al (Forbidden fruit leads to many jams.)
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To: mountaineer1997

Most likely a way to boost motel revenue.


8 posted on 06/15/2012 3:50:22 AM PDT by R. Scott (Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink)
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To: JoeProBono

Well - there go my vacation plans down the drain!


9 posted on 06/15/2012 3:57:11 AM PDT by Twinkie (Isaiah 53)
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To: Norm Lenhart

10 posted on 06/15/2012 3:58:47 AM PDT by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet - Mater tua caligas exercitus gerit ;-{)
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To: JoeProBono

Perfect. The Golf analogy is the perfect juxtaposition.


11 posted on 06/15/2012 4:02:56 AM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: JoeProBono
isnt Key West the P-town/Cherry Grove of South Florida?

and is it sleeping in the cars that is the problem.

12 posted on 06/15/2012 4:04:29 AM PDT by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: Vaquero

In the back of a rickety old garage,
there’s a brand new shiny red super stock Dodge...


13 posted on 06/15/2012 4:45:46 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: Eric in the Ozarks
she has a pretty little flower bed of white gardenias...

....she drives real fast and she drives real hard....she's the terror of colorado Boulevard...

shes gonna get a ticket now sooner or later cause she cant keep her foot off the accelerator

14 posted on 06/15/2012 4:53:16 AM PDT by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: pepsionice
A man’s home....is his castle....even if it was a 1965 Dodge.

I can't drive my house, but I sure can sleep in my car...except in Key West, apparently.

15 posted on 06/15/2012 4:56:47 AM PDT by Quality_Not_Quantity (A half-truth masquerading as the whole truth becomes a complete untruth. (J.I. Packer)
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To: JoeProBono

Spring break in the 80’s...did this many times. This of course was back when Key West offered some of the finer “hetero” entertainment experiences outside of Havana.


16 posted on 06/15/2012 5:50:19 AM PDT by Caipirabob (I say we take off and Newt the site from orbit. It's the only way to be sure...)
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To: JoeProBono
Key West - was just there. So let me get this straight:

With all the bars there, and people falling down drunk and deciding to sleep it off rather that causing a 100 mile traffic jam with an accident on US 1, they're proposing a new law saying 'You can't sleep in your car'...

... even though hotels are routinely full during cruise ship season?

Oh yeah, REAL smart, Key West. Here's a better idea: Let the roosters run things for awhile.

17 posted on 06/15/2012 6:05:23 AM PDT by jimjohn
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To: Norm Lenhart

“Print it out and hand it to liberals. “

But first doctor it by adding a big red “Vote For Obama!” on it.

Or: “I voted for Obama and this is what I got!”


18 posted on 06/15/2012 6:19:43 AM PDT by catnipman (Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)
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To: JoeProBono
if you don't sleep in your car the bubba towing jackels will grab your car from anywhere and only take cash to get it back ... the KWPD approves

No Joke ...they actually made this pederast chief of the Key West Police Department - we now have another gay chief now

It’s Okay For a Cop (the New Key West Police Chief) To Have sex With a Minor (17 yr old boy) in a patrol car and at his home

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This Attorney after having been convicted for three nickels with mandatory jail time is given community service to work on land development deals for the city and county .... precisely what he was convicted of feloniously doing for his clients

Convicted on FBI Tapes @ Nudist Bar, Key West Bag Man Gets Only Probation From Retiring Judge

You can't make this stuff up

Key West PD

In June 1984, the Key West Police Department in Monroe County, Florida was declared a criminal enterprise under the Federal RICO statutes after a lengthy United States Department of Justice investigation. Several high-ranking officers of the department, including Deputy Police Chief Raymond Cassamayor, were arrested on federal charges of running a protection racket for illegal cocaine smugglers. At trial, a witness testified he routinely delivered bags of cocaine to the Deputy Chief's office at City Hall.

Click on Headline:

Key West Police Department Called a 'Criminal Enterprise' - New York Times

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19 posted on 06/15/2012 6:21:48 AM PDT by Elle Bee
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To: jimjohn

20 posted on 06/15/2012 6:21:58 AM PDT by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet - Mater tua caligas exercitus gerit ;-{)
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To: mountaineer1997

it’s not the sleeping that KW is trying to abolish;it’s people LIVING/LODGING in their vehicles. I’m one of those people. I spoke out at the city commission meeting. the city says we are a “hazard to other people and cause a “significant negative imapcton tourism”. What a bunch of crap!! and check this beauty out too. recently they passed a law where a person can be ARRESTED if they are in a park and their bicycle is not in a bike rack !! the city commission has gome MAD!


21 posted on 06/26/2012 6:54:21 PM PDT by kwhatman
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To: Average Al

I live in a van in Key West. my driver’s license shows my address to be 148NAV, the same as my vehicle license plate. I get my meager Soc. Sec. check via direct deposit. and it is NOT enough to pay rent for a room in a house, much less have $$ left for food and other needs. so my van is my home.


22 posted on 06/26/2012 6:54:46 PM PDT by kwhatman
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To: Vaquero

KW had a law banning sleeping in vehicles; it was declared unconstitutional 18 years ago. next came a “camping” law. they recently found they couldn’t use it against people living in their vehicles. So now the no”lodging” in your vehicle law. the very day it passed and became enforceable, I asked, in a formal court motion, to have a local judge issue an IMMEDIATE temporary injunction barring the KWPD from enforcing the law and demanding a hearing to see if the law is constitutional. I obviously think it is not. judge’s secretary said he couldn’t rule on the motion be cause “there isn’t an active case” what do I have to do—get arrested first?


23 posted on 06/26/2012 6:55:03 PM PDT by kwhatman
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To: kwhatman

I wounder if all states accept license plates as an address?


24 posted on 06/27/2012 5:21:15 AM PDT by Average Al (Forbidden fruit leads to many jams.)
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To: JoeProBono
Yeah, because Americans don't like to drive their vehicles to beautiful places and stay there in their vehicles...

Clearly these people are a danger to themselves, the environment, and to the beauty of the local scenery.

25 posted on 06/27/2012 5:26:23 AM PDT by Teacher317 ('Tis time to fear when tyrants seem to kiss.)
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To: Teacher317
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26 posted on 06/27/2012 6:00:58 AM PDT by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet - Mater tua caligas exercitus gerit ;-{)
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To: JoeProBono

Nice RV...What kind of mileage does it get?


27 posted on 06/27/2012 6:09:31 AM PDT by MarDav
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