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New dating puts cave art in the age of Neanderthals
post-gazette ^ | June 15, 2012 | John Noble Wilford

Posted on 06/15/2012 9:26:33 AM PDT by JoeProBono

Stone Age artists were painting red disks, handprints, clublike symbols and geometric patterns on European cave walls long before previously thought, in some cases more than 40,000 years ago, scientists reported Thursday, after completing more reliable dating tests that raised a possibility that Neanderthals were the artists.

A more likely situation, the researchers said, is that the art -- 50 samples from 11 caves in northwestern Spain-- was created by anatomically modern humans fairly soon after their arrival in Europe. The findings seem to put an exclamation point to a run of recent discoveries: direct evidence from fossils that Homo sapiens populations were living in England 41,500 to 44,200 years ago and in Italy 43,000 to 45,000 years ago, and that they were making flutes in German caves about 42,000 years ago.

Then there is the new genetic evidence of modern human-Neanderthal interbreeding, suggesting a closer relationship than had been generally thought. The successful application of a newly refined uranium-thorium dating technique is also expected to send other scientists to other caves to see if they can reclaim prehistoric bragging rights.

In the new research, an international team led by Alistair W.G. Pike of England's University of Bristol determined that the red disk in the cave known as El Castillo was part of the earliest known wall decorations, at a minimum of 40,800 years old. That makes it the earliest cave art found so far in Europe, perhaps 4,000 years older than the paintings at Grotte Chauvet in France.

The handprints common at several of the Spanish caves were stencils, probably made by blowing pigment on a hand placed against the cave wall.........

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TOPICS: Arts/Photography; History
KEYWORDS: bear; bears; cave; caveart; cavedrawings; cavepainting; cavepaintings; chatelperronian; chauvet; france; godsgravesglyphs; macroetymology; neandertal; neandertals; neanderthal; neanderthals; palaeolithic; paleolithic; paleosigns
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To: JoeProBono
Neanderthals? That means they could have been made in the 1980s?
21 posted on 06/15/2012 12:04:21 PM PDT by FreeAtlanta (Liberty and Justice for ALL)
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Thanks JoeProBono for the topic, and thanks FrogMom for the ping!

additional:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2895644/posts


22 posted on 06/15/2012 2:40:15 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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Thanks JoeProBono for the topic, and thanks FrogMom for the ping!

Just adding to the catalog, not sending a general distribution.

To all -- please ping me to other topics which are appropriate for the GGG list.


23 posted on 06/15/2012 2:41:48 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: JoeProBono
The Neandertal Enigma
by James Shreeve

in local libraries
Frayer's own reading of the record reveals a number of overlooked traits that clearly and specifically link the Neandertals to the Cro-Magnons. One such trait is the shape of the opening of the nerve canal in the lower jaw, a spot where dentists often give a pain-blocking injection. In many Neandertal, the upper portion of the opening is covered by a broad bony ridge, a curious feature also carried by a significant number of Cro-Magnons. But none of the alleged 'ancestors of us all' fossils from Africa have it, and it is extremely rare in modern people outside Europe." [pp 126-127]
KEYWORDS: neandertal; neandertals; neanderthal; neanderthals
24 posted on 06/15/2012 2:48:28 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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25 posted on 06/15/2012 3:29:00 PM PDT by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet - Mater tua caligas exercitus gerit ;-{)
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26 posted on 06/15/2012 3:33:25 PM PDT by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet - Mater tua caligas exercitus gerit ;-{)
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