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Linux Creator Loves MacBook Air
Low end mac ^ | April 27th, 2012 | Charles Moore and Dan Knight

Posted on 06/16/2012 4:35:28 AM PDT by Halfmanhalfamazing

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To: Halfmanhalfamazing

For those concerned with the form factor, size, and weight, and that’s a perfectly legitimate concern, my Apple sources inform me that Apple is about to come out with smaller and yet very powerful computers that will exclude the keyboard and have something like a virtual keyboard on the touch sensitive screen itself. Like, WOW! man.


21 posted on 06/16/2012 11:49:14 AM PDT by Revolting cat! (Subvert the dominant paradise!)
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To: The Antiyuppie
I too have repaired laptops and lived to tell the tale. Making a blanket statement about HP laptops in general seems to be overly simplistic, especially in light of the range of models. The Envy and Elitebook models are very different from the low end consumer models in parts and quality.

With the built-in Mac ROM it would be better to install VMware and create a virtual machine to run Windows on the Mac. I've done it for many customers and you can have the best of both worlds on one machine.

I agree that the Macs have high build quality and very good parts selection as well as a lot of attention to design. That same design can make them difficult to repair and causes some issues like the swelling batteries disabling the trackpad and keyboard that happened a couple of years ago

Asus, Sager (made by Compal) and others are easily the equal of the Mac in parts and performance and have a broader selection as well.

The Air was a unique and innovative design and Apple gets high marks for it. It took Intel to create a reference design for the Ultrabooks to get the PC market moving in this category.

I merely pointed out the options available and, as usual, the Mac fanbois responded as expected.

22 posted on 06/16/2012 5:01:50 PM PDT by johncatl (...governs least, governs best.)
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To: The Antiyuppie

http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9227976/Apple_s_MacBook_Air_price_cuts_make_it_tougher_on_Windows_ultrabook_makers?taxonomyId=12

This would bring the air down to 999 dollars. My current laptop cost me 199 dollars, has 2 gigs of memory, 120 gigs storage, has access to a DVD and a CD/DVD burner, etc.

Is the alleged ‘quality’ worth paying 5x for a more robust laptop? If this laptop lasts 3 years, the macbook would have to last 15... That’s not happening.


23 posted on 06/17/2012 2:21:14 AM PDT by JCBreckenridge (Texas, Texas, Whisky)
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24 posted on 06/18/2012 4:51:44 AM PDT by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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25 posted on 06/18/2012 4:52:45 AM PDT by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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To: johncatl
Another gushing review from the Mac fanbois.

Congratulations! Only five posts before the first insult of people who use Apple products! With just a little a little more effort, you might manage to make it to the coveted top three spot.

26 posted on 06/18/2012 8:18:40 AM PDT by zeugma (Those of us who work for a living are outnumbered by those who vote for a living.)
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To: Johnny B.; Westbrook
>> Boot Camp is not used for virtualization. It is used for dual-booting.

> Ah. I was ignorant of this fact. Thanks for the clarification.

Strictly speaking, recent releases of VMware Fusion (the virtualization software for the Mac) do support use of the Bootcamp partition as a VM while running OS-X out of the other partition. However, in my experience, it is unwise to switch back and forth a lot between a) truly booting from the Bootcamp'ed Windows partition, and b) using it as a VM. Something about the driver mode switching seemed to give me trouble (occasional BSODs during boot). These days I have a separate Windows VM for use under OS-X, and reserve the on-the-metal Bootcamp copy for when I need the full memory of the MacBook for a Windows task.

I've used VMware extensively at work and home since around 2005 (hosting on ESX, OS-X, Windows, Linux) and I don't think I was doing something wrong. But my last adventure doing that was a few years ago and it may be that they've fixed the issues in more recent releases since the last time I tried.

>> I happen to use VMware

> I use KVM on my Linux native boxes, but I use VirtualBox on my laptop. VBox has a “seamless mode” where the guest and host desktops are integrated. Very, very nice.

That sounds like it might be similar to VMware's "Unity" mode where VM'ed applications appear individually as-needed on the OS-X desktop, can be minimized to the Dock, etc.

Johnny B.: Your description of how you use your MacBook sounds identical to how I use mine. It's a rockin' good platform if you want to be able to run everything, and if you have enough memory, to run it concurrently as well.

27 posted on 06/18/2012 8:21:44 AM PDT by dayglored (Listen, strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government!)
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To: zeugma
"Another gushing review from the Mac fanbois."

Congratulations! Only five posts before the first insult of people who use Apple products! With just a little a little more effort, you might manage to make it to the coveted top three spot.

seattle-rex-vs-apple-the-verdict-is-in

"As far as I can tell," says Seattle Rex, "Apple spent all of this time and money, solely to be a bully," asserting that "Apple has become the Orwellian nightmare that it warned us about some 30 years ago. A huge vehicle of sameness backed by legions of newthink practitioners, gleefully cheering as Big Bully annihilates one thoughtcriminal after another."

Does this move me up?

28 posted on 06/21/2012 4:04:21 AM PDT by johncatl (...governs least, governs best.)
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To: B Knotts

You are correct. Never understood Mac until I owned one. It is a better machine.


29 posted on 06/21/2012 4:20:46 AM PDT by gortklattu (God knows who is best, everybody else is making guesses - Tony Snow)
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To: johncatl
"As far as I can tell," says Seattle Rex, "Apple spent all of this time and money, solely to be a bully," asserting that "Apple has become the Orwellian nightmare that it warned us about some 30 years ago. A huge vehicle of sameness backed by legions of newthink practitioners, gleefully cheering as Big Bully annihilates one thoughtcriminal after another."

Does this move me up?

No. You need to try harder and react faster. The above is a slam on the company (fair game), not the users (against FR policy regarding personal insults). The personal attacks on these threads aren't nearly as bad as they once were, but I'm trying to do my bit to see that they don't come to that.

i.e., saying "product Z is gay", is lot different than saying that "people who use product Z are gay".

Nice try though. HAND!

30 posted on 06/21/2012 1:06:09 PM PDT by zeugma (Those of us who work for a living are outnumbered by those who vote for a living.)
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To: dayglored
Strictly speaking, recent releases of VMware Fusion (the virtualization software for the Mac) do support use of the Bootcamp partition as a VM while running OS-X out of the other partition.

Hand not seen that you could do that. (Probably since I don't have or use a Mac) That's a cool feature. I would imagine you could invoke "unity' as well?

31 posted on 06/21/2012 1:10:15 PM PDT by zeugma (Those of us who work for a living are outnumbered by those who vote for a living.)
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To: zeugma
> Hand not seen that you could do that. (Probably since I don't have or use a Mac) That's a cool feature. I would imagine you could invoke "unity' as well?

I would imagine the same, yeah. BTW, the "unity" feature has one curious characteristic, which you get used to but is a little odd at first.

The (Windows) VM is running, and has a desktop and all that, but the desktop is by default not rendered. Only the unity application windows that that would be displayed on the Windows desktop are rendered onto the Mac desktop. All well... until you pick up one of the Windows unity windows and move it around on the Mac desktop. It works, but the rendering algorithm timing on the Mac is necessarily not identical to the timing on the Windows VM. As a result you sometimes can glimpse a little of the Windows desktop background trailing behind the moving unity window. It's subtle, and strictly transient, but it's there.

For those who partook of certain mind-altering substances in long-distant decades, it's faintly reminiscent of the after-image "trails" that would follow one's waving hand or a moving vehicle. Trippy, man.... :)

32 posted on 06/21/2012 7:01:43 PM PDT by dayglored (Listen, strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government!)
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For those who partook of certain mind-altering substances in long-distant decades, it's faintly reminiscent of the after-image "trails" that would follow one's waving hand or a moving vehicle. Trippy, man.... :)

LOL. Like, wow man.

33 posted on 06/21/2012 9:19:04 PM PDT by zeugma (Those of us who work for a living are outnumbered by those who vote for a living.)
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