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Nokia Implodes... Taking Microsoft's Mobile Dreams Down With It (Watch video)
Business Insider ^ | 06/15/2012 | Henry Bldoget

Posted on 06/16/2012 7:52:04 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

The once-great Finnish cell-phone giant Nokia (NOK) is now undergoing one of the most spectacular implosions in the history of business.

Several years ago, Nokia was the undisputed heavyweight champion of the world when it came to making phones. Now, the company is frantically cutting costs and downsizing in a desperate bid to survive.

What happened?

The iPhone happened.

In the five years since Apple (AAPL) released its first iPhone, Nokia has lost a staggering 90% of its market value.

Worse, the company has gone from coining money to burning it. And the situation has gotten so bad that Nokia announced yesterday that it plans to fire another 10,000 employees.

Nokia's problem is that the cell-phone market has become a "platform" market, in which third-party developers build apps that run on top of cell phones. Platform markets tend to standardize around one or two winners. And the smartphone market is already standardizing around Apple's iPhone and Google's Android.

Nokia recognized this market shift last year. Its new CEO wrote a bold memo likening the company's predicament to being stuck on a "burning oil platform" in the middle of the ocean. He then radically changed Nokia's strategy and bet the company's future on Microsoft's forthcoming entry into the mobile platform market--a new version of Windows.

Unfortunately, Nokia's Microsoft phones have not been selling well. And, in the meantime, Apple and Google (GOOG) have only gotten stronger. So Nokia's situation has become even more dire.

Because Microsoft (MSFT) and Nokia are now in bed together, moreover, Nokia's problems have become Microsoft's problems. Microsoft is desperate to regain some of the ground it has lost to Apple and Google in smartphones. But its one major global partner, Nokia, is now drowning. So that puts Microsoft back at square one again.

(Excerpt) Read more at businessinsider.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Computers/Internet
KEYWORDS: finland; iphone; microsoft; nokia
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1 posted on 06/16/2012 7:52:11 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind
Several years ago, Nokia was the undisputed heavyweight champion of the world when it came to making phones.

That's usually the point where the executive team stops thinking.

Research in Motion is making a similar mistake with the Blackberry - it needs to support Android apps ASAP, but management can't seem to get that.

2 posted on 06/16/2012 7:57:25 AM PDT by Mr. Jeeves (CTRL-GALT-DELETE)
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To: Mr. Jeeves

Nokia screwed up about seven years ago in Germany. They had taken advantage in the late 1990s of a German tax credit...moved in, and had a factory there. As the tax credit maxed out...they quietly announced that they’d found a new location down on the Black Sea. Whole operation at the German plant was to shut down within a year. They even had construction going on while secretly holding back on the termination notice. Germans went ballistic after the announcement, and I suspect that they lost about half of their sales in Germany almost overnight. They had never gauged the negativity of the announcement and what it would bring.


3 posted on 06/16/2012 8:02:28 AM PDT by pepsionice
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4 posted on 06/16/2012 8:30:53 AM PDT by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: SeekAndFind

I think Nokia and RIM should ask Oblame-o for a BAILOUT, and have him blame the GOP/Bush on their problems!!


5 posted on 06/16/2012 8:34:54 AM PDT by ExCTCitizen (If we stay home in November '12, don't blame 0 for tearing up the CONSTITUTION!!)
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To: SeekAndFind

I prefer not to play around with Beta versions of Microsoft Windows, so I have stayed away from Windows 8. I do other betas, but MS beta operating systems stung me too often in the early days.

But the word out seems to be that Windows 8 is a lousy platform for desktops or laptops, but designed primarily for iPad type operations.

If so, this cannot be good news for Microsoft. I like Windows 7, but it really looks as if Windows 8 will be another loser.


6 posted on 06/16/2012 8:36:53 AM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: SeekAndFind
So that puts Microsoft back at square one again.

Given all the square Large Innovative Tiles in theIr upcoming OS, that's oddly apropos.

7 posted on 06/16/2012 8:42:31 AM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: SeekAndFind

Shades of Motorola! Back in the analog days of cellphones, the batwing symbol dominated the market. But when digital technology arose, Motorola stayed with analog and lost most of the market.


8 posted on 06/16/2012 8:54:44 AM PDT by spaced
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To: Mr. Jeeves
Research in Motion is making a similar mistake with the Blackberry - it needs to support Android apps ASAP, but management can't seem to get that.

Nope. RIM's remaining strength is in the Enterprise, and in security. These are Android weaknesses. Apple's iOS is also weak on enterprise security, but is strong on app security.

I am contracting at a 3,000 employee state office building that is on Blackberry. IPad support is being added, iPhone is considered. Android will not be considered. Android has a great market position, but it is not RIM's position.
9 posted on 06/16/2012 9:17:57 AM PDT by Dr. Sivana ("You forget, it isn't who you claim, but instead, who claims you. We don't claim you!")
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To: SeekAndFind; ShadowAce; Swordmaker
Despite their losing position in the phone market, Microsoft talked Nokia into their bed because Nokia was even worse off. But like the real-life analogy, no matter how desperate you are for a bed-mate, it's always a bad idea to seduce somebody worse off than yourself. You only get dragged down farther and faster.

I think more details of the analogy are unnecessary....

I hope Microsoft gets smart enough to throw Nokia under the bed. That's probably what this announcement Monday is about, at least indirectly.

10 posted on 06/16/2012 9:19:31 AM PDT by dayglored (Listen, strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government!)
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To: SeekAndFind

Why would anyone buy the Nokia Windows phone. there are probably more apps available for HP’s now-defunct Palm Pre than there are for the MS platform. Microsoft waited far too long. It is like trying to enter the 2012 presidential race....today. Ridiculous.


11 posted on 06/16/2012 10:06:02 AM PDT by montag813
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To: Dr. Sivana

As their financial results are proving, the “secure enterprise platform” business isn’t enough to keep RIM alive as an independent company. Either they open their OS to support Android apps (not difficult to do) or they sell themselves to some larger company like IBM.


12 posted on 06/16/2012 10:18:58 AM PDT by Mr. Jeeves (CTRL-GALT-DELETE)
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To: spaced

As someone who still just wants to make a phone call, I miss my old analog bag phone. All the rest of this crap has done for me is make it harder to get through and digital signals don’t carry as far.


13 posted on 06/16/2012 10:42:59 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing)
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To: SeekAndFind
This is called "creative destruction."
14 posted on 06/16/2012 11:10:12 AM PDT by JoeFromSidney ( New book: RESISTANCE TO TYRANNY. Buy from Amazon.)
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To: dayglored

Nokia + Microsoft is akin to Kmart + Sears. The alliance is not going to work out for good.


15 posted on 06/16/2012 11:32:24 AM PDT by rawhide
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To: dayglored
I hope Microsoft gets smart enough to throw Nokia under the bed. That's probably what this announcement Monday is about, at least indirectly.

Looking at the positive side (seems like kicking people while they're down is a common recreational sport in Obamaland, and even here in FR)

Microsoft probably is the only company with the financial resources to pull it off, resuscitating Nokia.

16 posted on 06/16/2012 11:51:01 AM PDT by publius911 (Formerly Publius 6961, formerly jennsdad)
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To: Smokin' Joe
As someone who still just wants [JUST] to make a phone call, I miss my old analog bag phone. All the rest of this crap has done for me is make it harder to get through and digital signals don’t carry as far.

You must be really old, like me.
Not interested in being cool, hip, and popular with the senseless mob, being able to discuss "Apps' and all...

Funny thing, I have not seen much discussion about the frequency when losing your entire life's data when the (criminally attractive) device breaks, is lost or stolen.

17 posted on 06/16/2012 11:55:44 AM PDT by publius911 (Formerly Publius 6961, formerly jennsdad)
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To: publius911
> Microsoft probably is the only company with the financial resources to pull it off, resuscitating Nokia.

And personally I think that's not Microsoft's brightest move. IMO they should have found a more healthy partner. By saying that MS should "throw Nokia under the bed" I meant they should stop expecting for a nearly-dead foreign company to save them from irrelevance.

My comment wasn't about "kicking people while they're down", it was about the advisability (for Microsoft) of spending billions more dollars trying to get Nokia to be a help rather than a hindrance, not to mention wasting more time that isn't there to waste. Microsoft is years behind the hand-held curve already, and it is way too late to wait for someone who's down to get up again.

Microsoft needs to be resuscitating itself, not foreign companies. I hope they're not too far gone -- it would be a damn shame for an important and valuable American company to blow their chance at the hand-held market.

18 posted on 06/16/2012 12:10:46 PM PDT by dayglored (Listen, strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government!)
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To: SeekAndFind; dayglored; Mr. Jeeves

19 posted on 06/16/2012 2:00:58 PM PDT by martin_fierro (< |:)~)
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To: Smokin' Joe
As someone who still just wants to make a phone call, I miss my old analog bag phone. All the rest of this crap has done for me is make it harder to get through and digital signals don’t carry as far.

My first phone was a Nokia 6110, circa 1998 or '99. Built like a brick s**thouse. Great reception, long battery life, comfortable in my hands and clear as a bell. And I believe you could even text with it (though nobody ever sent text messages back then).

Now I've got a Casio G-Shock flip phone. Bought it because it was rugged, waterproof and had a long battery life. At my job, I think I'm the only person left without a smartphone. At least I can leave home without my phone charger though.

It's a shame to see the once mighty Nokia take such a fall. I've often thought they should go back to doing what they did best; building simple, rugged phones with great reception and a long battery life. The reality is, there isn't much of a market for phones like this these days.

20 posted on 06/16/2012 2:18:15 PM PDT by Drew68 (I WILL vote to defeat Barack Hussein Obama!)
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To: Drew68

That was my first phone, too. Terrific phone!


21 posted on 06/16/2012 2:19:46 PM PDT by Future Snake Eater (CrossFit.com)
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To: publius911
Funny thing, I have not seen much discussion about the frequency when losing your entire life's data when the (criminally attractive) device breaks, is lost or stolen.

I figure the next step with all that is to lure the users 'into the cloud', where their data will be "safe" (and able to be searched, pilfered, or 'lost').

22 posted on 06/16/2012 2:54:10 PM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing)
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To: publius911
"Funny thing, I have not seen much discussion about the frequency when losing your entire life's data when the (criminally attractive) device breaks, is lost or stolen."

That isn't actually a problem, since you sync (back up) your phone to your computer. If something happens to the phone, you just restore your data to a new phone. If your computer is a Mac, most likely you're backing all your data up, including the sync data, to an external/network drive.

At least for the iPhone, if you lose it or it's stolen, you can locate it via GPS, and/or remotely wipe and brick it. The default protection is a four digit PIN, but you can only try to guess it a few times before the phone locks you out for increasingly long timeouts.

23 posted on 06/16/2012 7:19:36 PM PDT by PreciousLiberty (Pray for America!!!)
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To: SeekAndFind; ~Kim4VRWC's~; 1234; Abundy; Action-America; acoulterfan; AFreeBird; Airwinger; ...
 Nokia imploding! Why? According to this article, the iPhone! —PING!


Apple v. Nokia Ping!

Please, No Flame Wars!
Discuss technical issues, software, and hardware.
Don't attack people!
Don't respond to the Anti-Apple Thread Trolls!
PLEASE IGNORE THEM!!!

If you want on or off the Mac Ping List, Freepmail me.

24 posted on 06/16/2012 11:13:54 PM PDT by Swordmaker (This tag line is a Microsoft insult free zone... but if the insults to Mac users continue...)
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To: SeekAndFind

I hate Google but it’s over. Android is the T-1000.... And there will be no “Come with me, if you want to live”.

Someone will come up with an alternative that will provide more anonymity but, that day is years away.


25 posted on 06/17/2012 12:43:53 AM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live thnrough it anyway)
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To: rawhide

Zactly


26 posted on 06/17/2012 12:48:38 AM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live thnrough it anyway)
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To: Drew68

I miss my flip phone (Star Trek Communicator) from Nextel. Worked everywhere and the battery lasted forever.


27 posted on 06/17/2012 12:52:14 AM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live thnrough it anyway)
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To: publius911

The Apple devices back up everything to Apple servers so you can get it back. And if someone steals it you can not only locate it and send the police, you can also nuke it to keep the data from getting out.


28 posted on 06/17/2012 12:59:47 AM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: Smokin' Joe

I’ve graduated from a flip phone to one w/ a keyboard in order to text. kinda fun.
Mulling over getting an inexpensive smartphone, primarily for the larger screen. Better to see pics of my grandkids and, gulp.., great grandkids.
I NEVER put any personal info on the phone or my laptop either.
While I do most of my banking, bill paying, online ordering via computer I don’t have any of the info on the laptop, even though it rarely leaves the house. All that info in of the desktop.


29 posted on 06/17/2012 5:33:04 AM PDT by Vinnie (A)
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To: Swordmaker

Perhaps there’s Nokia to success in acquisitions. Thanks SM.


30 posted on 06/17/2012 7:29:53 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: JoeFromSidney; SeekAndFind
This is called "creative destruction."

Joseph Schumpeter


31 posted on 06/17/2012 8:20:05 AM PDT by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 119:174 I long for Your salvation, YHvH, Your law is my delight.)
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To: SeekAndFind
Because Microsoft (MSFT) and Nokia are now in bed together, moreover, Nokia’s problems have become Microsoft's problems. Microsoft is desperate to regain some of the ground it has lost to Apple and Google in smartphones. But its one major global partner, Nokia, is now drowning. So that puts Microsoft back at square one again.

Lazy journalism. That bit is wrong on so many levels.

# 1. Nokia was already drowning before their partnership with Microsoft. Symbian smartphone sales were already sharply down and falling even faster than before.

# 2. Nokia is already the biggest Windows Phone seller on the planet, having swiftly overtaken Samsung and HTC which started selling Windows Phones long before Nokia did. And Nokia’s Windows Phone sales have been going UP.

# 3. Before Windows Phone, Nokia smartphone sales in the US(on Symbian) were close to zero.

# 4. For the Launch month of April, and for May, the Nokia Lumia 900 was the top selling single smartpone model for AT&T-authorized resellers:
http://www.mobilebloom.com/nokia-lumia-900-4g-still-on-top-of-att-authorized-resellers-bestsellers-list/2215150/

# 5. On Amazon, only the upcoming launch of the super hyped, record selling in Europe(where its already been luanched) Sanmung Galaxy III, has been able to dislodge the Nokia Lumia 900 from the top seling position, where it's stood since the April Lumia 900 launch:
http://www.amazon.com/Best-Sellers-Cell-Phones-Accessories-AT/zgbs/wireless/2422313011/ref=pd_ts_zgc_cps_2422313011_more?pf_rd_p=1279002702&pf_rd_s=right-3&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_i=2422313011&pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_r=0BYJNDXXFDR85XZZW9F1

# 6. Samsung, HTC and the top Chinese smartphone maker ZTE are all doubling down on Windows Phone sets with the upcoming Windows Phone 8 release. Even the super hyped Samsung Galaxy III is rumoured to be releasing a Windows Phone 8 model come October:

http://www.engadget.com/2012/06/08/zte-tania-waves-windows-phone-flag-for-china-makes-official-mai/
http://www.everythingwm.com/zte-tania-coming-to-the-united-states-by-the-end-of-2012/2012/06/16/
http://www.pcadvisor.co.uk/news/mobile-phone/3354952/samsung-galaxy-s3-run-windows-8-in-october/

So its not as if Nokia is the only firm selling Windows Phones, in the very unlikely event of Nokia gong down in flames.

# 7. Nokia got UPGRADED by analysts following the cost cutting announcement, and the stock actually went UP, the day after the announcement, following the analyst upgrades:

Analysts upgrade Nokia after plans for layoffs, plant closings; look to Windows 8 phones
http://www.newser.com/article/d9vdmeko0/analysts-upgrade-nokia-after-plans-for-layoffs-plant-closings-look-to-windows-8-phones.html

32 posted on 06/17/2012 8:35:56 AM PDT by SmokingJoe
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To: PreciousLiberty
At least for the iPhone, if you lose it or it's stolen, you can locate it via GPS, and/or remotely wipe and brick it. The default protection is a four digit PIN, but you can only try to guess it a few times before the phone locks you out for increasingly long timeouts.

I use a five digit PIN, makes it really hard to guess. When my device was lost last year, I remotely wiped it. Luckily for me, the person who took it turned it in after a week as it was useless empty as a brick. Restored it via my Macbook in a couple minutes.

33 posted on 06/17/2012 9:39:57 AM PDT by roadcat
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To: SeekAndFind

I used to work at Nokia, and it is sad to see the company in this position. The problems at Nokia did not start with the iPhone, it started way before then. We were working on a smart-phone concept, complete with touch-screen and app platform in 2000 already, but it never came to market because:
1. The touch screens were not considered robust enough for everyday use, and
2. The executives at Nokia at that time did not believe in a “closed” business model, like Apple launched. They wanted everything to be open source, like Linux, even the apps.
3. They believed that Nokia would always hold the majority market share, and therefore, whatever Nokia would sell, the market would buy.

Too much arrogance, and dismissive of the strategic models we built in my team that showed 2 years before the i-phone launch that it was coming (Apple was recruiting GSM RF design engineers and pinging chipset manufacturers), and what the long term impact would be. I distinctly recall being in a meeting withn the then CEO where we suggested a Microsoft or Openwave partnership, and the reply was: “The next person to suggest that will be fired on the spot”. How times have changed...

I hope Nokia survives, but it will never be the same.


34 posted on 06/17/2012 9:54:30 AM PDT by Ironfocus (Unseat the Looter-in-Chief)
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To: SmokingJoe

What I get from all these links you have provided is this — Even if Nokia were to go bankrupt, it does not mean the end of Windows Phone?


35 posted on 06/17/2012 3:02:51 PM PDT by SeekAndFind (bOTRT)
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To: SmokingJoe
# 1. Nokia was already drowning before their partnership with Microsoft. Symbian smartphone sales were already sharply down and falling even faster than before.

No one is arguing THAT, Joe.

# 2. Nokia is already the biggest Windows Phone seller on the planet, having swiftly overtaken Samsung and HTC which started selling Windows Phones long before Nokia did. And Nokia’s Windows Phone sales have been going UP.

And despite your claims, Nokia is laying off 10,000 more of its workforce NOW and its status as an investment has just been lowered to JUNK status! That does not say much for the white knight saving ability of the sales of these Windows phones you are toutin, does it?

# 3. Before Windows Phone, Nokia smartphone sales in the US(on Symbian) were close to zero.

And Sales without profit is sending good money after bad. What sales they were getting was coming from giving large sales bonuses to the sales force for pushing Nokia Windows phones over other competing models.

# 4. For the Launch month of April, and for May, the Nokia Lumia 900 was the top selling single smartpone model for AT&T-authorized resellers: http://www.mobilebloom.com/nokia-lumia-900-4g-still-on-top-of-att-authorized-resellers-bestsellers-list/2215150/

"Resellers?" think about that qualifier, Joe. No AT&T-authorized reseller has ever been permitted to sell Apple iPhones. None. Only Apple is qualified to contract with a third party to authorize reselling. . . and those that it has have seen nearly the same overwhelming percentages of iPhone sales that AT&T and Verizon have reported, blowing away Windows AND Android phones in the US for those carriers.

# 5. On Amazon, only the upcoming launch of the super hyped, record selling in Europe(where its already been luanched) Sanmung Galaxy III, has been able to dislodge the Nokia Lumia 900 from the top seling position, where it's stood since the April Lumia 900 launch: http://www.amazon.com/Best-Sellers-Cell-Phones-Accessories-AT/zgbs/wireless/2422313011/ref=pd_ts_zgc_cps_2422313011_more?pf_rd_p=1279002702&pf_rd_s=right-3&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_i=2422313011&pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_r=0BYJNDXXFDR85XZZW9F1

LOL... Again, your vaunted Windows phone is only number 5 and 9 after other makers' Android phones on a list that includes NO Apple phones because, as before, Amazon is NOT an authorized iPhone reseller so they won't be counted!

# 6. Samsung, HTC and the top Chinese smartphone maker ZTE are all doubling down on Windows Phone sets with the upcoming Windows Phone 8 release. Even the super hyped Samsung Galaxy III is rumoured to be releasing a Windows Phone 8 model come October:

Rumors get you nothing. Nada. Zip.

# 7. Nokia got UPGRADED by analysts following the cost cutting announcement, and the stock actually went UP, the day after the announcement, following the analyst upgrades:

Again, LOL! Two out of over fifty analyst gave luke warm reviews... One to a mere perform from neutral, the other from sell to neutral, and you are cheering???? Those two were still pessimistic but willing to wait and see... And it was about the SURVIVAL of Nokia, not that it would suddenly grow stupendously because of hitching its wagon to Windows rising star.

36 posted on 06/17/2012 5:42:14 PM PDT by Swordmaker (This tag line is a Microsoft insult free zone... but if the insults to Mac users continue...)
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To: SmokingJoe; Swordmaker
I'll add to Swordmaker's great comments:

Nokia is already the biggest Windows Phone seller on the planet, having swiftly overtaken Samsung and HTC which started selling Windows Phones long before Nokia did.

Mainly because both of those manufacturers switched to the much more desired Android for most of their products. Many are looking back at Windows now that Microsoft demands several dollars per phone in royalties for non-Windows sales.

For the Launch month of April, and for May, the Nokia Lumia 900 was the top selling single smartpone model for AT&T-authorized resellers:

Aside from the fact that your criteria eliminates competition from the iPhone, that's probably because the 900 sucked so bad they started giving it away for free. Fact is, the iPhone 4S was recently the best seller for AT&T, Sprint and Verizon.

Nokia got UPGRADED by analysts following the cost cutting announcement, and the stock actually went UP, the day after the announcement, following the analyst upgrades

That does tend to happen regardless of the long-term viability of the company. Let's see if Microsoft kills Nokia like they tried to kill Orange.

37 posted on 06/17/2012 11:14:04 PM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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To: publius911
Funny thing, I have not seen much discussion about the frequency when losing your entire life's data when the (criminally attractive) device breaks, is lost or stolen.

Because with an iPhone that can only happen if you are really stupid.

My sister lost her phone to a thief in the Grocery store. I traced it to a home on the nearby lake and directed the police right to a home they were familiar with, one iPhone is recovered, all her data was backed up to her computer, iPad and the cloud.

She lives in Oklahoma, I am in Oregon.

38 posted on 06/18/2012 12:08:53 AM PDT by itsahoot (I will not vote for Romney period.)
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39 posted on 06/18/2012 4:51:44 AM PDT by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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40 posted on 06/18/2012 4:52:45 AM PDT by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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To: publius911

The info isn’t physically attached to a specific phone any more. I recently upgraded phones, every thing was there when I activated the new phone. My son took my old phone and logged onto his account and all of his stuff was waiting there fore him.

That may be why you don’t hear about it. It’s not like having a disc crash on your PC.


41 posted on 06/19/2012 7:01:17 PM PDT by dangerdoc (see post #6)
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To: SmokingJoe

Windows Phone 8 in detail: new Start Screen, multi-core support, VoIP integration, and NFC

Developers will be able to build games for Windows 8 and Windows Phone 8 at the same time

http://www.theverge.com/2012/6/20/3096667/windows-phone-8-screenshots-features-nfc-start-screen-dual-core/in/2865586

Nokia’s mapping technology coming to Windows Phone 8
http://news.yahoo.com/nokia-mapping-technology-coming-windows-phone-8-164608062.html


42 posted on 06/20/2012 10:34:49 AM PDT by Viiksitimali
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To: SmokingJoe; SeekAndFind
For the Launch month of April, and for May, the Nokia Lumia 900 was the top selling single smartpone model for AT&T-authorized resellers:

Did you hear the latest news? Those Lumia phones will NOT be upgradeable to Windows 8. All of those unfortunate people bought orphaned phones.

43 posted on 06/20/2012 2:45:39 PM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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