Skip to comments.Obama attorneys argue he's not Dem nominee (Klayman Florida NBC ballot challenge)
Posted on 06/18/2012 11:20:25 AM PDT by Seizethecarp
TALLAHASSEE, Fla. Attorneys arguing on behalf of Barack Obamas re-election plans today urged a Florida judge to decide that Obama is not yet the Democratic nominee for president and ignore evidence challenging his eligibility.
The arguments were raised by attorney Mark Herron on behalf of Obama in a hearing before Judge Terry Lewis in Florida, who is best known for presiding over the 2000 Bush v. Gore election dispute.
Lewis is credited with making crucial rulings in the contested 2000 presidential election when ultimately a Florida recount was halted by the U.S. Supreme Court, and George W. Bush was declared the winner.
Herron argued the Florida process affirms only that Obama is the choice in the states presidential preference primary but is not necessarily the partys nominee for president.
But the judge noted that the party wrote to Floridas secretary of state a letter indicating Obamas name was the only one submitted, and he thought the states electors were bound to vote for him.
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Video of the hearing:
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An easy prediction: the MSM will find none of the arguments presented by the Obama team as even a little bit odd or of any interest whatsoever.
If Obama IS eligible to be President, why is his attorney fighting so hard to get the challenge thrown out? THAT is the question.
If Obama IS eligible to be President, why should he do anything in a low level court that could jeopardize it?
If Obama IS NOT eligible to be President, why should he do anything in a low level court that could jeopardize it?
Like kevkrom says, "Standard Legal Tactic." The lawyers would be incompetent if they did anything differently.
But why give the appearance of impropriety? The negative overtone is deafening.
Why doesn’t the attorney ask BO’s attorney “Is Obama eligible to be President?”
I would love to hear the spin coming out of his mouth avoiding the question completely! In a courtroom, the lawyer would have to state the truth or ignore the question - thus dance around it!
That was my reaction as well. Just prove up that he’s eligible and be done with it.
The thought of him being thrown off the Florida ballot, however, makes me snicker in eager anticipation.
Can you imagine the resources the Democrats will have to spend in educating the average Flori-DUH voter who can't mark a butterfly ballot on how to actually do a write-in?
AND if little barry bastard commie is not the nominee of the democrat party, why is there a staff of attorney drones trying to stop any challenges to his eligibility on the Floriduh ballot?
I’m waiting for the day that Kenyan turd blossom is standing before a military tribunal to answer for his treasonous crimes.
We can then call him OFiringSquadula.
Put it right back on the defense lawyers to put up or shut up- don't let them weasel out of it with this.
That's where the Media come in.
"Court case? What court case? There's a court case? No, there isn't. That's just your standard way of deflecting attention from the real issues, such as your loathsome practice of stealing black babies, raping them, killing them, and then roasting and eating them. How long have you been doing this? What did black babies ever do to you? Come on, speak up and quit trying to duck the issue! STOP with the denials!!"
There’s something obviously fishy about the guy.
But I’ve said all along that I really didn’t care WHERE he was born. Bill Ayers was (probably) a natural born citizen but he has no business being ELECTED president....(and for the damn nitpickers, if he wasn’t, please use your own example to make my point!) =)
Whether or not the guy’s a Natural Born Citizen, he’s obviously ANTI-AMERICAN!
The problem is not as much a usurper sneaking in on the sly, as it’s a outwardly redistributionist, anticapitalist, anti-constitutional Marxist willingly being supported by 2 out of 5 of AMERICANS to this very day!
Well even if he was born in Hawaii, that doesn't make him a Natural Born Citizen, unless he presents [legitimate] proof that his father was a US citizen at the time of his birth - (that rules out 0bama Sr.)
The voters in every state have the right to know that the candidates they vote for are qualified for the office they seek, otherwise the voter becomes disenfranchised. To that end, the Sec of State, of whomever is charged with overseeing elections, had better have irrefutable proof (not some photoshopped fake BC) that Hussein qualifies as "Natural Born".
So Klayman is insisting that, because the Constitution was written before there were parties and therefore before there were nominations, that only Congress can review the eligibility of a successful candidate for the Presidency, and then only after the electors have affirmed his election?
So an ineligible person like Obama runs the entire course, wins election, is elected by the Electoral College -- and then and only then can the Congress interpose and reject the candidate who is ineligible under Article II?
Is that about the argument?
Yeah submitted by the DNC or Demo National Committee to the SoS without regard to Florida law or without Florida having a chance to vote for other Dem candidates.
“So Klayman is insisting that, because the Constitution was written before there were parties and therefore before there were nominations, that only Congress can review the eligibility of a successful candidate for the Presidency, and then only after the electors have affirmed his election?”
No, Klayman, representing the eligibility activist, is arguing against that position, which was taken by Obama’s attorneys.
Klayman: Yes I do.
Wow, you are really going out on a limb on that prediction aren’t you?
If this were over principles I could see the resistance to provide proper documentation. It is not though. It is just like so many other things with this guy... it is the law and he ignores it and GETS BY WITH BREAKING THE LAW.
He ridicules anyone who calls him on it.
We are living a nightmare. It can’t be anything else. My wife’s assertion that we are seeing end time prophecy full-filled is becoming more plausible every passing day. Right is wrong and wrong is right now.
“Standard legal tactic. Why put yourself at any risk for an adverse ruling when you can get the whole thing tossed, even if temporarily, on a “standing” issue.”
Seems like a high risk here for the defense. Seems like it could be ruled that Obama, for all intents and purposes, is the nominee.
WHO'S YOUR DADDY?
I do not in any way consider myself a birther. My concern has alway been the odd way Obama continually ducks providing the necessary evidence that would establish his eligibility. I don’t know where Obama was born, but wouldn’t it just be much simpler to pay the 25 bucks to get a certified copy from Hawaii and be done with all of this. The extent that he, and his surrogates go to to avoid showing proof of eligibility (which is mandated by the Constitution, by the way), tends to make me believe that he is not eligible. What I guess I am saying, is that I don’t listen to Donald Trump or Orly or anyone else. I just watch Obama, and he is clearly being evasive. The burden of proof is on him, and him alone.
So Master Barry...where you lying before or are you lying now..?
Klayman: Yes I do.
Bingo...game set and match.
Are these the same guys who claimed President Bill Clinton was protected under the Soldiers and Sailors Relief Act?
Obama IS running for President in the primaries. He may not have the nomination ywet, but he is running for it. Shouldn’t the voters know whether Obama is eligible to hold the office?
The media is responsible for Obama’s illegitimate Presidency. They never vetted him and STILL aren’t.
How dare you state the obvious. /s
“TALLAHASSEE, Fla. Attorneys arguing on behalf of Barack Obamas re-election plans today urged a Florida judge to decide that Obama is not yet the Democratic nominee for president and ignore evidence challenging his eligibility.”
Any trick they can pull out of the bag. ANYTHING but submit that paper long-form birth certificate to a court of law.
Is there a problem? Submitting a $12 lfbc would be cheaper than arguing.
LOL. I'm just naturally a big risk taker.
Could be that it's a "Standard Legal Tactic" but those same lawyers are going to back in this same court once Obama in nominated so what have they really gained? I don't buy it. And neither would the Man on the Street if story ever managed to get to him. Which of course it won't.
Several posters here have said that the legal approach of Bambi’s attorneys would be standard no matter what, but I honestly don’t see how this could be the case if he could easily produce evidence that he was born here. Why not just do it?
It's really just that simple - honest.
The Born in Hawaii meme is a red herring thrown to the masses who wouldn't know Article 2 Sect 1 from a jelly donut. It works really well, wouldn't you say? . .
There’s obviously a problem. No one goes to this much trouble for this long when a $12 lfbc submitted to the court would result in a ruling and pretty much the end of all challenges with a precedent.
But he will not submit it to a civilian nor a military court.
There’s a reason. You can take that to the bank.
What that reason is, is unknown. Could be the father, dunno.
But he’s obviously very, very afraid to put it in front of a civilian or military court.
Of course, if he submits a forged document to a court ........