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Obama attorneys argue he's not Dem nominee (Klayman Florida NBC ballot challenge)
WND ^ | June 18, 2012 | Unattributed

Posted on 06/18/2012 11:20:25 AM PDT by Seizethecarp

TALLAHASSEE, Fla. – Attorneys arguing on behalf of Barack Obama’s re-election plans today urged a Florida judge to decide that Obama is not yet the Democratic nominee for president and ignore evidence challenging his eligibility.

The arguments were raised by attorney Mark Herron on behalf of Obama in a hearing before Judge Terry Lewis in Florida, who is best known for presiding over the 2000 Bush v. Gore election dispute.

Lewis is credited with making crucial rulings in the contested 2000 presidential election when ultimately a Florida recount was halted by the U.S. Supreme Court, and George W. Bush was declared the winner.

Herron argued the Florida process affirms only that Obama is the choice in the state’s presidential preference primary but is not necessarily the party’s nominee for president.

But the judge noted that the party wrote to Florida’s secretary of state a letter indicating Obama’s name was the only one submitted, and he thought the state’s electors were bound to vote for him.

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KEYWORDS: certifigate; klayman; naturalborncitizen; obama
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To: GeorgeWashingtonsGhost
But why give the appearance of impropriety? The negative overtone is deafening.

That's where the Media come in.

"Court case? What court case? There's a court case? No, there isn't. That's just your standard way of deflecting attention from the real issues, such as your loathsome practice of stealing black babies, raping them, killing them, and then roasting and eating them. How long have you been doing this? What did black babies ever do to you? Come on, speak up and quit trying to duck the issue! STOP with the denials!!"

21 posted on 06/18/2012 11:58:05 AM PDT by lentulusgracchus
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To: Vigilanteman

There’s something obviously fishy about the guy.

But I’ve said all along that I really didn’t care WHERE he was born. Bill Ayers was (probably) a natural born citizen but he has no business being ELECTED president....(and for the damn nitpickers, if he wasn’t, please use your own example to make my point!) =)

Whether or not the guy’s a Natural Born Citizen, he’s obviously ANTI-AMERICAN!

The problem is not as much a usurper sneaking in on the sly, as it’s a outwardly redistributionist, anticapitalist, anti-constitutional Marxist willingly being supported by 2 out of 5 of AMERICANS to this very day!


22 posted on 06/18/2012 12:01:09 PM PDT by sam_paine (X .................................)
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To: Vigilanteman
I've said all along that Obama probably was born in Hawaii.

Well even if he was born in Hawaii, that doesn't make him a Natural Born Citizen, unless he presents [legitimate] proof that his father was a US citizen at the time of his birth - (that rules out 0bama Sr.)

The voters in every state have the right to know that the candidates they vote for are qualified for the office they seek, otherwise the voter becomes disenfranchised. To that end, the Sec of State, of whomever is charged with overseeing elections, had better have irrefutable proof (not some photoshopped fake BC) that Hussein qualifies as "Natural Born".

23 posted on 06/18/2012 12:06:25 PM PDT by The Sons of Liberty (Sworn to Defend The Constitution Against ALL Enemies, Foreign and Domestic. So Help Me GOD!)
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To: Seizethecarp
Obama's attorney's basically argued there is no opportunity for any court to review the eligibility of the nominee of a party for president, which Klayman argued could not have been the intent of the drafters

So Klayman is insisting that, because the Constitution was written before there were parties and therefore before there were nominations, that only Congress can review the eligibility of a successful candidate for the Presidency, and then only after the electors have affirmed his election?

So an ineligible person like Obama runs the entire course, wins election, is elected by the Electoral College -- and then and only then can the Congress interpose and reject the candidate who is ineligible under Article II?

Is that about the argument?

24 posted on 06/18/2012 12:08:36 PM PDT by lentulusgracchus
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To: Seizethecarp
But the judge noted that the party wrote to Florida’s secretary of state a letter indicating Obama’s name was the only one submitted, and he thought the state’s electors were bound to vote for him.

Yeah submitted by the DNC or Demo National Committee to the SoS without regard to Florida law or without Florida having a chance to vote for other Dem candidates.

25 posted on 06/18/2012 12:14:33 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: lentulusgracchus

“So Klayman is insisting that, because the Constitution was written before there were parties and therefore before there were nominations, that only Congress can review the eligibility of a successful candidate for the Presidency, and then only after the electors have affirmed his election?”

No, Klayman, representing the eligibility activist, is arguing against that position, which was taken by Obama’s attorneys.


26 posted on 06/18/2012 12:19:15 PM PDT by Seizethecarp
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To: Vigilanteman
The judge questioned Klayman if he allows the original compliant to be amended, over the objections of the OBot lawyers, that Obama was born outside of the United States does he have the evidence?

Klayman: Yes I do.

27 posted on 06/18/2012 12:35:36 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: InterceptPoint

Wow, you are really going out on a limb on that prediction aren’t you?

If this were over principles I could see the resistance to provide proper documentation. It is not though. It is just like so many other things with this guy... it is the law and he ignores it and GETS BY WITH BREAKING THE LAW.

He ridicules anyone who calls him on it.

We are living a nightmare. It can’t be anything else. My wife’s assertion that we are seeing end time prophecy full-filled is becoming more plausible every passing day. Right is wrong and wrong is right now.


28 posted on 06/18/2012 12:39:26 PM PDT by Sequoyah101 (You've been screwed by your government.)
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To: kevkrom

“Standard legal tactic. Why put yourself at any risk for an adverse ruling when you can get the whole thing tossed, even if temporarily, on a “standing” issue.”

Seems like a high risk here for the defense. Seems like it could be ruled that Obama, for all intents and purposes, is the nominee.


29 posted on 06/18/2012 12:42:42 PM PDT by Rennes Templar (No matter how cynical you get, it's never enough to keep up.)
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To: The Sons of Liberty; Vigilanteman
Exactly! The operative question:

WHO'S YOUR DADDY?

30 posted on 06/18/2012 12:45:54 PM PDT by STARWISE (The overlords are in place .. we are a nation under siege .. pray, go Galt & hunker down)
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To: The Great Pretender, Wooa Wooa


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31 posted on 06/18/2012 12:51:04 PM PDT by devolve (------ ---- ---------toss_subhumans_in_Hannibal*s_wild_boar_pit----------- ---------------------)
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To: GeorgeWashingtonsGhost

I do not in any way consider myself a birther. My concern has alway been the odd way Obama continually ducks providing the necessary evidence that would establish his eligibility. I don’t know where Obama was born, but wouldn’t it just be much simpler to pay the 25 bucks to get a certified copy from Hawaii and be done with all of this. The extent that he, and his surrogates go to to avoid showing proof of eligibility (which is mandated by the Constitution, by the way), tends to make me believe that he is not eligible. What I guess I am saying, is that I don’t listen to Donald Trump or Orly or anyone else. I just watch Obama, and he is clearly being evasive. The burden of proof is on him, and him alone.


32 posted on 06/18/2012 12:57:28 PM PDT by fhayek
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To: mkjessup
I’m waiting for the day that Kenyan turd blossom is standing before a military tribunal to answer for his treasonous crimes.

So Master Barry...where you lying before or are you lying now..?

33 posted on 06/18/2012 1:05:24 PM PDT by spokeshave (The only people better off today than 4 years ago are the Prisoners at Guantanamo.)
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To: a fool in paradise; All

34 posted on 06/18/2012 1:13:46 PM PDT by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: Red Steel
The judge questioned Klayman if he allows the original compliant to be amended, over the objections of the OBot lawyers, that Obama was born outside of the United States does he have the evidence?

Klayman: Yes I do.

Bingo...game set and match.

35 posted on 06/18/2012 1:15:10 PM PDT by spokeshave (The only people better off today than 4 years ago are the Prisoners at Guantanamo.)
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To: STARWISE; All

36 posted on 06/18/2012 1:17:18 PM PDT by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: Seizethecarp

Are these the same guys who claimed President Bill Clinton was protected under the Soldiers and Sailors Relief Act?


37 posted on 06/18/2012 1:42:42 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (Ich habe keinen Konig aber Gott)
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To: sam_paine

Obama IS running for President in the primaries. He may not have the nomination ywet, but he is running for it. Shouldn’t the voters know whether Obama is eligible to hold the office?


38 posted on 06/18/2012 1:51:38 PM PDT by kabar
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To: lentulusgracchus

The media is responsible for Obama’s illegitimate Presidency. They never vetted him and STILL aren’t.


39 posted on 06/18/2012 1:56:30 PM PDT by GeorgeWashingtonsGhost
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To: MHGinTN

How dare you state the obvious. /s


40 posted on 06/18/2012 1:57:46 PM PDT by GeorgeWashingtonsGhost
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