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Is this the 'iPad killer' at last? Microsoft unveils new Surface tablet..
UK Daily Mail ^ | June 19, 2012 | Staff

Posted on 06/19/2012 5:24:06 AM PDT by C19fan

Microsoft CEO Steve Ballmer has an uphill battle on his hands. He needs to break into the tablet market, taking on both the iconic market-leader, the iPad, as well as as an ever-burgeoning range of svelte Android tablets. However, after Microsoft's repeated attempts over 30 years to break into the tablet market, it now seems the software giant has the right tools to make it right. The Microsoft Surface tablet was officially unveiled in Los Angeles last night, and from the favourable first impressions, it looks like we have a three-way race in the tablet market. The Surface comes with a 10.6" screen, a clever magnetic cover which doubles as a keyboard, and a kickstand to hold it upright on a table. In a huge paradigm shift for Microsoft, the traditional Windows Desktop has been scrapped for Microsoft's new 'Metro' tile-based theme.

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TOPICS: Computers/Internet
KEYWORDS: ipad; microsoft; tablet
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To: C19fan

I paid $139 for a Kindle Fire, which does a whole lot of stuff for a whole lot of cheap. If Microsoft is not playing in that price neighborhood, they will not succeed.

Some people will pay a premium for an iPad, because and iPad is the standard, and they feel the price is worth it. These people have so much money that parting with an extra $400 bucks doesn’t matter.

But for everybody else, it’s all about price, price, price. Once you overcome the barrier of functionality, people will pick the cheaper option. Right now, it’s Kindle Fire at $139.


41 posted on 06/19/2012 7:32:40 AM PDT by Haiku Guy ("The problem with Internet Quotes is that you never know if they are real" -- Abraham Lincoln)
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To: wolfman23601

Sigh, what year are you living in? 2007?


42 posted on 06/19/2012 7:36:38 AM PDT by aft_lizard (Barack Obama is Hugo Chavez's poodle.)
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To: The Great RJ

Microsoft has had it’s own iTunes interface for about 5 years. It’s moving towards it’s xbox live model now, which is used across it’s PC, XBox, and even android and iPad tablets. It has had it’s video and music download service for awhile.


43 posted on 06/19/2012 7:40:25 AM PDT by aft_lizard (Barack Obama is Hugo Chavez's poodle.)
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To: C19fan

For me to buy a tablet, it would have to run Windoze applications, and have a USB port.

Looks like this is it.


44 posted on 06/19/2012 7:42:46 AM PDT by Fresh Wind ('People have got to know whether or not their president is a crook.' Richard M. Nixon)
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To: ThunderSleeps

The iPad is merely a status symbol, nothing else. My wife is caught up in it and it drives me crazy. Her new iPhone isn’t even as good as my Droid2 , which is 3 years old. They still don’t have 4G.


45 posted on 06/19/2012 7:43:04 AM PDT by wolfman23601
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To: Haiku Guy

I doubt it will be priced anywhere near that, it actually has good guts and a larger device. It has to beat the 10” varieties out there in price, that’s all.


46 posted on 06/19/2012 7:43:37 AM PDT by aft_lizard (Barack Obama is Hugo Chavez's poodle.)
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To: tacticalogic
It will be a horrendous failure because people make fun of the name

Sorta like what happened to the iPad, huh? I knew that name was a product killer the first time I heard it. /s

47 posted on 06/19/2012 7:52:17 AM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Windflier

Sarcasm tags aren’t always included.


48 posted on 06/19/2012 7:55:25 AM PDT by tacticalogic ("Oh, bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: FLAMING DEATH

The iPad does have a great user interface, but I’m with you. Why not get a netbook? I thought I would use my fire-sale HP tablet to surf while lying on the couch, but it’s too heavy, and typing is cumbersome. I prefer to use my smartphone, as do my kids.

Attaching a keyboard to it could get my wife to use it, and get her away from the desktop my kids need for homeschooling. She hates the laptop (?), but I’m hoping she’ll go for the tablet with keyboard. She hated the built-in keyboard.(My regret with the HP laptop was the lack of a Netflix app. It would be perfect as a portable Netflix TV.)

Basically, she doesn’t get along well with computers. ;-)


49 posted on 06/19/2012 8:02:19 AM PDT by St_Thomas_Aquinas (Viva Christo Rey!)
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To: kevkrom

The soft keyboards already on the market for the iPad are crap. I know this because I have six of them sitting on a shelf collecting dust right now not 30’ from where I’m sitting.


50 posted on 06/19/2012 8:04:33 AM PDT by Dead Corpse (Steampunk- Yesterday's Tomorrow, Today)
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To: C19fan
FWIW ....


51 posted on 06/19/2012 8:05:28 AM PDT by al_c (http://www.blowoutcongress.com)
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To: Dead Corpse

I use the apple bluetooth keyboard. It isn’t a soft keyboard, but I keep it in my briefcase and it works great for me. My primary business uses are note taking in town meetings (I represent a couple of small towns) and other meetings; email and calendars, which update with iphone and my office pc whenever either I or my assstant input them.


52 posted on 06/19/2012 8:15:06 AM PDT by NCLaw441
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To: C19fan

What’s with the playschool interface?


53 posted on 06/19/2012 8:40:40 AM PDT by meyer (It's 1860 all over again - the taxpayer is the new "N" word)
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To: tacticalogic
Sarcasm tags aren’t always included.

I thought I'd be kind and include one anyway ;-)

54 posted on 06/19/2012 8:41:04 AM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: longtermmemmory
and ipad resembles a female hygene product...


55 posted on 06/19/2012 8:41:45 AM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts (My dog, yes. My wife, maybe. My gun....NEVER!)
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To: NCLaw441
I'm a Net Admin. Most of the stuff I need to do to manage my servers and networks are either clunky or not available on the iPad.

Close, but not where I want them.

Examples are accessing my WCS remotely. I need to VNC into another machine and access it from there because it doesn't play well on my iPad's Safari.

Another draw back is the available VNC/RDP/SSH/Telnet clients. Sure, they exist... But have you actually tried USING them? They suck. Flat out. I've even wasted cash on some of the paid apps and the best I can figure is that this is the best the interface itself can offer.

Not good enough.

I've already checked the public demo of Win8 and have already figured out all my old tricks on it. Launching an admin cli for tel/ssh/ftp works. If it still does on the Surface, then that much the better.

Other api's use either Java or Flash, hopefully html 5... And Window's runs 'em all.

I'm in a predominantly Mac environment right now and we're trying to move to Linux due mostly to cost and Apple shenanigans with it's Server stuff. I don't want the iTunes store being our Primary licensing center... Madness...

56 posted on 06/19/2012 8:43:29 AM PDT by Dead Corpse (Steampunk- Yesterday's Tomorrow, Today)
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To: Windflier

I’m not always that generous. Sometimes I have to backfill, but ususally it gets inferred correctly.


57 posted on 06/19/2012 8:45:30 AM PDT by tacticalogic ("Oh, bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: Astronaut

“Microsoft is about technological innovation, while Apple is about marketing and selling overpriced devices.”

Apple isn’t about technological innovation? Who knew? Mr. Ballmer, I’m not buying it.


58 posted on 06/19/2012 8:50:23 AM PDT by TexasRepublic (Socialism is the gospel of envy and the religion of thieves)
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To: kevkrom
But this article's about the Surface, so back on topic. At this point, we simply don't know enough to fairly judge the Surface. The announcement should technically be classified as vaporware because it didn't include nearly enough information for people to come up with informed opinions -- no price, no mention of street date, and very thin description of tech specs. The fact that MS themselves were warning that even those limited specs could change should raise some eyebrows about why they'd be announcing the product if they haven't finalized the design.

Microsoft has a long history of doing this. They announce a product, and those businesses that have extensive vendor lock-in with them, get the hint that they should wait a while if they are planning purchasing a similar product. It's a variation of Fear, Uncertainty, and Doubt.

59 posted on 06/19/2012 9:15:48 AM PDT by zeugma (Those of us who work for a living are outnumbered by those who vote for a living.)
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To: TexasRepublic

Have you used Windows 8? Have you used Mountain Lion. I’ve seen both. I can tell you that there is very little innovative about Mountain Lion. Its pretty, it adds in some iOS stuff, but its not that different from Lion, which wasn’t that different from Snow Leopard. Very incremental improvements.

Windows 8 is a whole new ball game. Totally different than Windows 7. It leapfrogs the competition. I’m not trying to start a holy war with Apple fanboys, but that is my informed opinion. If you disagree, thats fine. Thats why the free market and consumer choice is a good thing.


60 posted on 06/19/2012 9:47:37 AM PDT by Astronaut
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