Posted on 06/20/2012 5:01:13 PM PDT by SunkenCiv
Professor Peter Donnelly, of Oxford University, said the Welsh carry DNA which could be traced back to the last Ice Age, 10,000 years ago.
The project surveyed 2,000 people in rural areas across Britain.
Participants, as well as their parents and grandparents, had to be born in those areas to be included in the study.
Prof Donnelly, a professor of statistical science at Oxford University and director of the Wellcome Trust centre for human genetics, said DNA samples were analysed at about 500,000 different points.
After comparing statistics, a map was compiled which showed Wales and Cornwall stood out.
Prof Donnelly said: "People from Wales are genetically relatively distinct, they look different genetically from much of the rest of mainland Britain, and actually people in north Wales look relatively distinct from people in south Wales."
While there were traces of migrant groups across the UK, there were fewer in Wales and Cornwall.
He said people from south and north Wales genetically have "fairly large similarities with the ancestry of people from Ireland on the one hand and France on the other, which we think is most likely to be a combination of remnants of very ancient populations who moved across into Britain after the last Ice Age.
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Those people were some tough mugs. Can you imagine surviving by hand-building small wooden kayaks and traveling along the ice for months at a time, living on seals and fish, and sleeping in the open ocean in sub-freezing temperatures? My wife uses 3 blankets if it drops below 70 in the house.
I'd say that the first caused the second. Meaning that Rome had to either conquer Ireland, or leave the Britons in what is now Wales enough of their ancient tribal structures, and enough personal pride, and enough arms, to protect themselves from Irish raiders. Rome could not reduce them to sullen, unorganized, unarmed, sheep, as it did to the inhabitants in most of the Western Empire, without first eliminating the Irish wolves just to the West.
But Rome did conquer them, although it did not oppress them to the same extent it did in the areas of Britain nearest Gual. The oldest continuously existing Christian community in the British Isles is in Wales. The very name "Wales" comes from the name for foreigner that the Germanic barbarians gave to to people and things assciated with Rome. Wallonia, Wallachia, Vlach, walnut and Wales all derive from the same Germanic root word, because the Germanic invaders of Britain associated the Christian people of what we now call Wales, whose priests and ruling class could speak Latin, with Rome.
Good find! Thanks!
Enjoy!
1. PlaidTV - Cymraeg / Welsh Language broadcast
2. Dylan Thomas Reads His Own:
A Child's Christmas in Wales
3. Here is a stadium full of Welsh singing the Welsh National Anthem:
Hen Wlad Fy Nhadau ~ Land of my Fathers
4. Wales' Native Son Baritone Bryn Terfel Sings:
Hen Wlad Fy Nhadau ~ Land of my Fathers
5. Dylan Thomas Reads His Own:
Do Not Go Gentle Into That Good Night
6. Trelawnyd Male Voice Choir - Myfanwy
7. Just for fun and to prove that wherever in the world there are two Welshmen standing next to each other, you shall soon hear them singing in perfect harmony.
This is an amateur, very casual video recording with talking from the audience in the background, one instance of feedback from someone's video cam's mike, but in my opinion, one can still hear the small Hong Kong Welsh Male Voices Choir knocking it out of the park:
The Hong Kong Welsh Choir Sings Gwahoddiad
8. Spine-tingling performance with video of the scenic Rhondda Valley in winter:
Treorchy Male Choir & Wales' Native Son Sir Harry Secombe Sing Cwm Rhondda in English
9. Accompanied by one piano:
Llanelli Male Voice Choir sing "Yfori" - Llandysul Concert Pt.2
10. Wales' Native Son Baritone sings this traditional Welsh lullaby written sometime around 1800:
Bryn Terfel Sings Suo Gân in Welsh
Take that Germanic "filter" out and you are looking at the word "gaul", "gol" (as used by the Greeks in "Magolis" ~ "McWallace" ~ ally to Carthage in the Punic wars), "wal", "alle", "Wall" as in Walonia", and so on.
I think it's a pre-Gaellic word meaning something like "spear chucker". Caesar certainly thought so ~
There’s no bottleneck if one rejects the basis of the DNA studies, which you did in your first sentence.
Could Welsh star Stanley Baker's ancestors be Bronze Age copper miners from Spain?The researchers believe Wales became home to an influx of migrant workers from the Iberian Peninsula and the Balkans 4,000 years ago that helped shape the biological construction of modern Wales.
Darren Devine, Western Mail
April 21 2009
Academics at Sheffield University want to show the genetic traces of migrants who came to work in Bronze Age copper mines on Llandudno's Great Orme and at Parys Mountain, on Anglesey, can still be found.
They are hoping men whose families have lived near the mines for generations will help them establish a genetic link back to the migrants.
They are looking only at male DNA, because men's Y chromosomes carry their genetic heritage from father to son.
The research builds on previous work which showed a sample of people in Abergele, North Wales, had a genetic signature found in the Balkans and on the Iberian Peninsula.
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What was the sheepdog charged with? Was he convicted?
I have a CD of Dylan Thomas reading both, “A Child’s Christmas in Wales” and “Do Not Go Gentle”. I enjoy listening to it anytime.
yes, that was the first thing I thought of.
These are the descendents of those who built Stonehendge, and were pushed into the mountains, not by the Anglo saxons (500 ad) but by the Celts (500 bc).
Heck if I know. A cat brought charges but with that language barrier, I don’t know what he was saying.
Descendant Of Stone Age Skeleton Found (Cheddar Man - 9,000 Years Old)
There's a 23,000 year old Cheddar Man too but no DNA.
BTW, Wales has the highest concentration of 'O' Type blood of any where else in the world.
Descendant Of Stone Age Skeleton Found (Cheddar Man - 9,000 Years Old)
There's a 23,000 year old Cheddar Man too but no DNA.
BTW, Wales has the highest concentration of 'O' Type blood of any where else in the world.
Also: Offa's Dyke seperates Wales from the rest of England.
And how might all this connect with the story that when Lewis and Clark met the Mandan Indians, a Welshman in their party said the Indians were speaking Welsh?
"Welshmen never yield!"
Shhhhh!
We don't like to talk about that.
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