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Watching Now Katie Pavlich On CSPAN 2 Drops Bombshell
6-23-12

Posted on 06/23/2012 7:38:59 PM PDT by Dysart

Watching Pavlich interview with Major Garrett on CSPAN2, watch it now or catch the replay.

She just said that there were three weapons recovered at the scene, not two, and she strongly suspects that the murder of Brian Terry was a paid government confidential informant.

Now, I think we know why Obama-Holder wants to keep this evidence out of the public domain. Also, she points out for the slow that it's implied that the justice dept knew many Mexicans would be killed by putting these powerful weapons in the hands of cartel killers, but were considered essentially (my words) acceptable collateral damage. It's raciss at its core.


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1 posted on 06/23/2012 7:39:04 PM PDT by Dysart
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To: Dysart

If this is true - now we know why he granted amnesty to all those illegal immigrants. It was to lower the disdain that hispanics would feel for him if this news came out. He knew he was going to issue the executive order the following week and hoped that by granting this to how many illegals? 800,000 or more they would ignore what was happening in the background!


2 posted on 06/23/2012 7:44:20 PM PDT by jcsjcm (This country was built on exceptionalism and individualism. In God we Trust - Laus Deo)
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To: Dysart

Did Zero choose sides in the Mexican cartel wars? Was F&F among other things a way to support their chosen side with arms? And does anyone know which Cartel controls distribution in Chicago?


3 posted on 06/23/2012 7:44:44 PM PDT by Meet the New Boss
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To: Dysart

I wonder how many are acceptable losses in Chicago?

http://sipseystreetirregulars.blogspot.com/2011/09/codrea-exclusive-project-gangwalker.html


4 posted on 06/23/2012 7:46:02 PM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: Meet the New Boss

See the next post.


5 posted on 06/23/2012 7:47:46 PM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: Dysart; Joe Brower; Travis McGee; LucyT; vette6387; MetaThought; 60Gunner; XHogPilot; ...

This is not new news. Those who have been following this have known this for quite some time. The third weapon did, however, manage to mysteriously disappear...


6 posted on 06/23/2012 7:49:17 PM PDT by MestaMachine (obama kills)
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To: jcsjcm
Yep, my thought too--this will come out and Zero is anticipating that, and further, makes it more clear why he wants to drag this out beyond the election if he can.

That and the withheld documents likely contradict Witholder's/Lanny Brewer's testimony many times over. Perjury charges against his high adm officials wouldn't be a feather in his reelection cap.

7 posted on 06/23/2012 7:50:44 PM PDT by Dysart
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To: Dysart

Great post but to MANY that story is almost 1 year old.

But that’s not all:

How did that rip crew KNOW to be in THAT part of the desert at THAT time...?

Because the government told their informant, and the informant was ON that very rip crew.

A government informant used government information to kill a fed. gov. officer.

But something much worse happened to that US Customs guy murdered down in Mexico; they killed him because the other cartel guys viewed him as a de-facto Sinaloa operative, because Obama struck a “no busts for intel” deal with the Sinaloa Cartel.

So...that part of the story is much, much worse but is getting no airplay at all.


8 posted on 06/23/2012 7:52:50 PM PDT by gaijin
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To: Dysart

Obama lied and Mexicans died.


9 posted on 06/23/2012 7:53:20 PM PDT by NoLibZone (I trust Sarah Palin, Dick Cheney, Cain, Perry, Bachman : I trust their judgment on their 2012 pick.)
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To: Dysart

Well, you may be sure that the fifth column will not allow the reality of this racist murdering to be revealed in their media. Latino voters must be herded the same way black voters are, through lies and manufactured realities aimed at accentuating dependency.


10 posted on 06/23/2012 7:53:54 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Being deceived can be cured.)
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To: Dysart

The short story is there is a full-blown but totally undecleared and narco-centric CIVIL WAR in Mexico, and it’s Zetas vs. Sinaloas. That’s it, mostly.

And Obama secretly chose to involve the USA in that civil war, and we’re apparently on the size of the Sinaloa cartel. And we have a very important and secret deal with that cartel.

See?


11 posted on 06/23/2012 7:55:48 PM PDT by gaijin
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To: cripplecreek

Wow. O.O


12 posted on 06/23/2012 7:56:43 PM PDT by RushIsMyTeddyBear (Wings cannot be redistributed, they can only be broken. ~ Oleg Atbashian (People's Cube))
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To: MestaMachine

Well, somehow I missed this detail, so it’s news to me. Major Garrett stuttered and nearly choked on his follow up question. As Plugs would allow, it’s a big effin deal, if true, and evidence suggests it is.


13 posted on 06/23/2012 7:57:23 PM PDT by Dysart
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To: jcsjcm
If this is true - now we know why he granted amnesty to all those illegal immigrants.

Maybe amnesty was part of a deal with the Mexican government so they'll keep quiet.

14 posted on 06/23/2012 7:58:56 PM PDT by GOPJ (The 'doting court eunuchs' of the MSM fail to notice...)
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To: 2nd amendment mama

ping!


15 posted on 06/23/2012 8:01:44 PM PDT by basil
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To: GOPJ

THIS SHOW AIRS AGAIN TOMORRIW (Sunday) on CSPAN2 Book TV
at 6:00PM Pacific Time. Check your cable guide.

It is worth it.


16 posted on 06/23/2012 8:03:56 PM PDT by bunster
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To: GOPJ

The C-SPAN2 F&F show with Katie Pavlich is scheduled to be repeated tomorrow at 9PM EST.

I missed it tonight, but would love to watch her be interviewed for an hour. She is one sharp young lady. I can’t believe she’s only 23.


17 posted on 06/23/2012 8:08:40 PM PDT by ibytoohi (What the hell has happened to my country?)
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To: bunster

thanks


18 posted on 06/23/2012 8:09:01 PM PDT by preamble
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To: Meet the New Boss

Did Zero choose sides in the Mexican cartel wars?

Or.... was mexican cartel money part of the historic fund raising that Obama achieved in the last election?


19 posted on 06/23/2012 8:10:18 PM PDT by sgtyork (The secret of happiness is freedom, and the secret of freedom, courage. Thucydides)
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To: GOPJ

Good point! Wasn’t Lanny in Mexico on the same day that Holder said no one knew about this operation?


20 posted on 06/23/2012 8:11:07 PM PDT by jcsjcm (This country was built on exceptionalism and individualism. In God we Trust - Laus Deo)
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To: Dysart
Here's some more "explosives" for you"

The Department of Homeland Security, ICE and the Department of Justice have long denied that the case of Jaime Zapata had anything to do with Fast and Furious. The discovery of this ROI by Zapata, "puts the lie to that (expletives deleted) by Napolitano and Holder," according on source who spoke with this reporter on conditions of absolute anonymity.

Multiple sources including current and former employees of the Department of Justice and the Department of Homeland Security have confirmed this explosive new revelation in the Fast & Furious investigation. Said one source, "I think (DHS) is covering up something big." He added, "I feel betrayed."

Investigators discover I.C.E. Report of Investigation on seizure of Fast & Furious weapons in Texas in August 2010 SIGNED BY JAIME ZAPATA!

Now it appears Napolitano has lied under oath? Why was Zapata killed? The ambush is called 'fake' in the article. Would it be worth taking the hit for exercising executive privelege to cover up that two US agents were set up & killed because of F&F?

21 posted on 06/23/2012 8:19:54 PM PDT by MissMagnolia (Being powerful is like being a lady. If you have to tell people you are, you aren't. (M.Thatcher))
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To: Meet the New Boss
And does anyone know which Cartel controls distribution in Chicago?

Not sure which cartel "owns" Chicago, but this may explain the deaths and shootings each weekend that seem to be at a higher rate than Bahgdad. If money and other dots could be connected, we have the Daleys, plus the Rahm Father steering the chip in Chicago - all with White Crib connections. Great question.

22 posted on 06/23/2012 8:21:35 PM PDT by SERKIT ("Blazing Saddles" explains it all.......)
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To: MestaMachine; CodeToad; Lazamataz; Joe Brower; archy; Lurker; Squantos
The bigger part of the story is not the third gun, but the FBI’s paid informant and close pal, who was also (and still is) a sadistic assassin with many murders of innocents to his “credit.”

And this was just the sort of fellow consorting with dirty federal agents during Fast and Furious on both sides of the border, then killing a federal agent (Terry) and still being protected by other dirty federal agents.

I remember when I had respect for the FBI. The few Special Agents I knew had great integrity. That ethos seems to be gone, from Waco and Ruby Ridge onward until now.

23 posted on 06/23/2012 8:22:26 PM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: gaijin
How did that rip crew KNOW to be in THAT part of the desert at THAT time...?

Same way Zapata was ambushed. I want to hear from his partner.

24 posted on 06/23/2012 8:23:36 PM PDT by MileHi ( "It's coming down to patriots vs the politicians." - ovrtaxt)
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To: gaijin

If we didn’t have this insane WOD NONE of this BS would have /would be happening


25 posted on 06/23/2012 8:24:41 PM PDT by uncbob
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To: preamble

I don’t know how to Post a Vanity — could one of you perhaps (pretty please)post the info for all so they can catch tomorrow — our side finally gets some air time.

Katy Pavlich/Townhall Editor interviewed by Major Garrett on Book TV CSPAN II Sunday at 6PM Pacific - 9PM Eastern
Book Title: Fast and Furious: Obamas Bloodiest Scandal and Its Shameless Coverup.


26 posted on 06/23/2012 8:28:45 PM PDT by bunster
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To: gaijin

It’s old, but it’s a good thing that people like Katie continue to beat the MSM upside the head with it, until the idiots get it right.


27 posted on 06/23/2012 8:29:23 PM PDT by FlyVet
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To: MHGinTN

Well put. The media propaganda machine will be called upon to ‘manage and shape’ this story to help keep the latino and black voter base on the reservation. This is nothing short of an existential threat to the Regime which must be terrified that the sordid underlying reality of F&F will go viral.


28 posted on 06/23/2012 8:33:45 PM PDT by Starboard
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To: jcsjcm

it hit me last night that this is exactly why he did the amnesty.
trying to get ahead of the thousand dead mexicans.


29 posted on 06/23/2012 8:43:55 PM PDT by Donnafrflorida (Thru HIM all things are possible.)
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To: gaijin

The big Q. is this,: How much has the Sinaloa cartel donated to 0bama 2012?


30 posted on 06/23/2012 8:52:11 PM PDT by reg45 (Barack 0bama: Implementing class warfare by having no class!)
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To: Travis McGee
Your post brought to mind the way this murderous change happened. According to records now available, the BUsh admin progra(s) was allowing weapons into the hands of suspected smugglers, BUT the weapons were fitted with tracking devices whiah allowed interdiction of the smugglers and weapons before they were transported to Mexico. when the Holder/Obama regime began F&F, agents in AZ were at first astonished when told to NOT TRACK the weapons and in fact allow known smugglers to purchase untraceable weapons and take them to Mexico. Wire taps show that agents actually wanted confirmation of such a change in policy before they would release controls on the weaponry in question and the stores where purchases were made were demanding 'second opinions' when told to let the untraceable weeaponry go with these known smugglers.

At least one of these incredulous agents is now a whistle blower. If these criminal acts by the Holder/Obama regime are not prosecuted, then the law as a restriction to government lawlessness is broken beyond repair. For that reson if for no other, prosecutions must happen if any integrity is to be restored to these departments under Just Us department leadership. The criminals who gave the orders to change the program must be taken down and I fear the feckless pubbies will not do it this close to voting. Their positions in DC are more imprtant to them than OUR Rule of Law. we have become a ruled people, a thugocracy now rules America.

31 posted on 06/23/2012 8:52:32 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Being deceived can be cured.)
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And one last thought: when the lawlessness road ins taken, history shows the rulers become more and more violent and blood thirsty as regimes change. We The People are in for a long stretch of very bad times.


32 posted on 06/23/2012 8:54:15 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Being deceived can be cured.)
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To: MHGinTN

I believe there are some voice tapes at least where both gun shop owners and ATF street agents are being ordered to walk the guns. The shop owners didn’t want to be arrested later, if the govt “forgot” that they had told them to sell the guns illegally to felons etc.

If we ever get to “The Murdergate Hearings,” we might hear some amazing audio of senior ATF and DOJ ordering agents to commit clear crimes. Impeachment stuff, maybe.

I am guessing that Bill and Hillary are planning a “parachute strategy” where she will bail on the administration, “shocked” at this “outrageous, unlawful and fatal plan being conducted behind the State Dept’s back.”

Obama resigns or is impeached, and Hillary parachutes into Charlotte to save the Rat Party.


33 posted on 06/23/2012 8:58:04 PM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Dysart

BTTT with prejudice!


34 posted on 06/23/2012 9:06:48 PM PDT by Uncle Miltie (Nobody died at Watergate. Who were Brian Terry and Jamie Zapata? (Post this on Facebook, everyone!))
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To: Travis McGee

Sounds about right. I was expecting the ‘transfer of power’ about the start of the summer, as I’ve stated on this forum more than a year ago. But it looks like little barry bastard commie has hung in there long ewnough now that Biden will not be needed to rule until November.


35 posted on 06/23/2012 9:15:01 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Being deceived can be cured.)
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To: Meet the New Boss

36 posted on 06/23/2012 9:19:02 PM PDT by Uncle Miltie (Nobody died at Watergate. Who were Brian Terry and Jamie Zapata? (Post this on Facebook, everyone!))
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To: Travis McGee

“Obama resigns or is impeached, and Hillary parachutes into Charlotte to save the Rat Party.”

EXACTLY what I’ve been fearing! I say again, the GOP better be planning for what happens if they ‘win’ on this issue. Heck, I don’t think there’s a fiction writer in this country who’d have dared try to publish this story.


38 posted on 06/23/2012 9:31:34 PM PDT by Mach9
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To: bunster

Set my DVR!


39 posted on 06/23/2012 9:34:02 PM PDT by Bshaw (A nefarious deceit is upon us all!)
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To: Bshaw

Can see it anytime.....http://www.c-spanvideo.org/program/Kati


40 posted on 06/23/2012 9:47:10 PM PDT by skidoc
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To: Dysart

!


41 posted on 06/23/2012 9:49:06 PM PDT by skinkinthegrass (WA DC E$tabli$hment; DNC/RNC/Unionists...Brazilian saying: "$@me Old $hit; different flie$". :^)
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To: skidoc

Many thanks!


42 posted on 06/23/2012 9:55:40 PM PDT by Bshaw (A nefarious deceit is upon us all!)
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To: Uncle Miltie

thanks for the links Uncle Miltie


43 posted on 06/23/2012 9:57:39 PM PDT by Meet the New Boss
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To: Travis McGee

And is there not evidence that the FBI furnished the gun purchasers with the money to buy the guns? Do I remember that tidbit correctly?


44 posted on 06/23/2012 10:00:52 PM PDT by dagogo redux (A whiff of primitive spirits in the air, harbingers of an impending descent into the feral.)
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To: Meet the New Boss

http://narcosphere.narconews.com/notebook/bill-conroy/2011/07/us-court-documents-claim-sinaloa-cartel-protected-us-government


45 posted on 06/23/2012 10:04:01 PM PDT by Scotswife
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To: Meet the New Boss

I know the cartels’ drug business funds islamic radicals who have set up shop over the border and all around central and south America.

Obama loves Islamic terrorists as much as he hates American freedom and white people.


46 posted on 06/23/2012 10:23:14 PM PDT by SaraJohnson
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To: Dysart
FBI Criminal Informant Complicit in Brian Terry’s Death (PJM Exclusive)

The rip crew was in Peck Canyon that evening with the intention of stealing money and drugs from a specific shipment of which they had prior knowledge.

(snip)

The rip crew knew to be in Peck Canyon that December evening because a CI working for the FBI found out about a smuggling run — from the FBI.

(snip)

The Drug Enforcement Administration (DEA) — through its own CIs and communications intercepts — was also aware of the planned assault.

Neither the DEA nor FBI warned Border Patrol about the expected criminal activity.

(snip)

The federal government will still not reveal if one of the two WASR-10 AK-pattern semi-automatic rifles located near the scene — provided to the Sinaloa cartel via Operation Fast and Furious — was the weapon that put a bullet through Brian Terry’s heart. The existence of a third recovered gun, an SKS carbine, has been disputed by the FBI despite the fact it had been talked about openly in the beginning of the investigation among federal agents.

Multiple sources tell PJM that this third weapon “disappeared” because it was the weapon carried by the FBI CI who ran the rip crew. When it was recovered near the scene of the murder and subsequently traced by the ATF, it traced back to the FBI CI via the gun shop in Texas where it was purchased.

Brian Terry’s murder was entirely preventable. The incompetence of the DEA and FBI let his Border Patrol unit walk into an ambush. After the ambush, it appears the FBI tampered with evidence to cover up that one of their informants was involved with the murder of a federal agent.


47 posted on 06/23/2012 10:48:29 PM PDT by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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To: Travis McGee; Dysart; SERKIT; All

Katie Pavlich with the Chicago thug machine link on Special Report all star Panel:

Dennis Burke, former US Atty, overseeing F&F on the ground in AZ, from Chicagoan, allied with Rahm Emanuel (when he was chief of staff) to draft Clinton’s assault weapons ban ....

Blog blurb and the video

http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/68552/weekend-open-thread-fast-furious-book-author-on-bret-baiers-all-star-panel/


48 posted on 06/23/2012 10:57:54 PM PDT by STARWISE (The overlords are in place .. we are a nation under siege .. pray, go Galt & hunker down)
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To: Dysart
Did you know that ICE Agent Jaime Zapata was investigating F&F when he was murdered? With guns from Project Gunrunner.

Ice Agent Jaime Zapata Murdered While Investigating Fast and Furious Weapons

ICE Agent Jaime Zapata and his partner, Victor Avila, were ambushed at a fake roadblock in Mexico. Were they set up? If so by whom?

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While the weapons found at the Zapata murder scene were not from among the Fast and Furious guns, this revelation is profoundly significant, because it directly contradicts sworn testimony by Department of Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano.

“I have no information to that effect, no. I don’t know one way or the other,” she replied to a direct question on any Fast and Furious connection by Rep. Michael McCaul, R-Texas.

Word games. Here's the little trick Napolitano, Holder and ATF are playing. F&F was an ATF operation run out of the Tucson AZ office. But some guns were walked out of Texas gun shops which puts them in the jurisdiction of Texas ATF offices so those ops must have had other names. So far I have not seen any reporting on what those op names were.

Armored SUV could not protect U.S. agents in Mexico

U.S. investigators recovered one of the military-style semi-automatic weapons used in the attack that killed Zapata.

The gun came from Texas.

Ballistic testing of spent shell casings and the raising of an obliterated serial number revealed the weapon was a popular Romanian-made AK-47 knockoff purchased at J&J’s Pawn Shop in Beaumont, smuggled south to the Zetas by a methamphetamine trafficker named Manuel Gomez Barba, a U.S. citizen.

ICE agent's family files wrongful death claim against Justice Dept.


49 posted on 06/23/2012 11:04:52 PM PDT by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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To: Travis McGee

Hillary parachutes into Charlotte to save the Rat Party.

thank God she wears those suit pants.


50 posted on 06/23/2012 11:16:11 PM PDT by longfellow (Bill Maher, the 21st hijacker.)
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