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Vaccines And Autism: The Secret That You Are Not Supposed To Know
End of the American dream ^ | 21st June 2012 | N/A

Posted on 06/24/2012 1:15:35 AM PDT by yank in the UK

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Before the 80's it was 1 in 10,000 kids had autism, now they say that it is 1 in 88. Where I live it is 1 in 8. In the USA since 1991 cases of ASD has increased by 2700 percent. This is personal to me, I have 2 sons, both developed normally, reaching milestones on time. After the government mandated vaccines both of them regressed, and have now been diagnosed with Autism. It pi$$es me off so bad! I bet the governmental functionaries that made these vaccinations mandatory have children that are exempt from this BS
1 posted on 06/24/2012 1:15:51 AM PDT by yank in the UK
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To: yank in the UK

No. Just no.

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/checkup/2011/01/autismvaccine_link_another_nai.html

http://dx.plos.org/10.1371/journal.pbio.1000114

http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,1960277,00.html


2 posted on 06/24/2012 1:19:53 AM PDT by Slings and Arrows (You can't have Ingsoc without an Emmanuel Goldstein.)
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To: yank in the UK

I have great sympathy for your sons, but the so-called link between autism and vaccines has been thoroughly discredited.


3 posted on 06/24/2012 1:22:04 AM PDT by Slings and Arrows (You can't have Ingsoc without an Emmanuel Goldstein.)
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To: yank in the UK

I think you are right. Giving healthy children a cocktail of toxins-—and all vaccinations have known toxins in them-—has to affect the babies in particular. We used to NEVER give vaccinations to children under 6 mos. of age.

These pediatricians who mandate newborn vaccinations to healthy infants should be put in prison.

The Bill Gates crowd—think there are a few too many billion people in the world and sterilization through vaccines would be the best method to save the planet. Of course, getting Autism helps prevent marriage and families also-—what a coincidence.

Just look at the amount and timing of vaccinations in the 70’s and then in the 90’s. All that toxin being injected into toddlers is a crime. They can’t excrete it at young ages and the toxins attack the neurons in the brain. There is a correlation because Autism became epidemic after the schedule of vaccines were upped and the age lowered in children.


4 posted on 06/24/2012 1:25:53 AM PDT by savagesusie (Right Reason According to Nature = Just Law)
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To: Slings and Arrows

No it has not been discredited, people that risk losing money and are at risk of being sued are desperately trying to discredit it.
That’s like saying rumours of Obama being born in kenya have been thoroughly discredited


5 posted on 06/24/2012 1:27:50 AM PDT by yank in the UK ( A liberal mocking Christianity. I asked "why don't you mock Islam?" he replied "Muslims are violent)
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To: yank in the UK

I broke my own rule about arguing with crazy people. I won’t trouble you any further.


6 posted on 06/24/2012 1:30:11 AM PDT by Slings and Arrows (You can't have Ingsoc without an Emmanuel Goldstein.)
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To: Slings and Arrows

Here we go yet again.


7 posted on 06/24/2012 1:30:11 AM PDT by rlmorel ("The safest road to Hell is the gradual one." Screwtape (C.S. Lewis))
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To: rlmorel

As I said before, I broke my own rule by getting involved in this thread. I’m off to a CreVo post for some calm, rational discussion.


8 posted on 06/24/2012 1:32:03 AM PDT by Slings and Arrows (You can't have Ingsoc without an Emmanuel Goldstein.)
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To: Slings and Arrows

They have been “discredited” by the same corporations which make billions of dollars on the vaccines. They own the politicians who supply the grant money and the research facilities -—and those “peer review” articles are as truthful as the hockey stick graphs on global warming. They lie. I haven’t got a flu vaccine yet.....and you can count on one finger how often I had the flu in the last 30 years. And funny thing-—I don’t have arthritis and fibermyalgia and “gulf war syndrome” and other weird “diseases” that weren’t even heard of until vaccinations became common.

The Vaccine companies are poisoning our children on purpose.


9 posted on 06/24/2012 1:33:11 AM PDT by savagesusie (Right Reason According to Nature = Just Law)
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To: Slings and Arrows

“I broke my own rule about arguing with crazy people. I won’t trouble you any further.”
You obviously have not witnessed firsthand what happens to healthy children that are pumped full of mercury and aluminium, but I have.. I must be crazy


10 posted on 06/24/2012 1:33:41 AM PDT by yank in the UK ( A liberal mocking Christianity. I asked "why don't you mock Islam?" he replied "Muslims are violent)
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To: Slings and Arrows

I understand completely.


11 posted on 06/24/2012 1:36:14 AM PDT by rlmorel ("The safest road to Hell is the gradual one." Screwtape (C.S. Lewis))
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To: Slings and Arrows

>> sympathy for your sons

>> arguing with crazy people

>> “thoroughly” discredited.

Contemplate much?


12 posted on 06/24/2012 1:42:38 AM PDT by Gene Eric (Your Hope has been redistributed. Here's your damn Change!)
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To: yank in the UK
Well, thimerosal contains mercury which is one of the most toxic substances known to mankind.

When any author uses hyperbolic statement like this you know he is full of sh!t.

Mercury is toxic but it hardly can be termed “one of the most toxic substances known to mankind”.

Also go to this Thirmerasol Table and you can see that thirmerasol is used in very few vaccines and in those that do use it there is very little of it.

13 posted on 06/24/2012 1:43:11 AM PDT by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit.)
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To: savagesusie

The “immuno accelerants” which allow the vaccine makers to use a far less amount of dead/weakened viruses in vaccines are the root of the problem. These substances cause the immune system to go into overdrive and is it any wonder that autoimmune illnesses have increased. Vaccines are a lifesaver, but the ones that use these accelerants can wreck havok on people who already have an overly sensitive immune system.

It would be interesting to corelate the cases of complications between vaccines using accelerants and those that don’t.


14 posted on 06/24/2012 1:46:43 AM PDT by GraceG
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To: yank in the UK

There’s more to it.

Environmental antidepressant contamination is inducing gene expressions in minnows that’s similar to human autism.
http://www.plosone.org/article/info%3Adoi%2F10.1371%2Fjournal.pone.0032917

This one has antidepressants causing autistic behaviors in rats.
http://www.nih.gov/news/health/oct2011/nimh-24.htm

We’re ingesting so much of this happy pill garbage that we’re contaminating the ground water with it every time we flush.

If you’re in the UK check this guy on what kind of response he got from the MHRA. (Britain’s FDA)
http://fiddaman.blogspot.com/search?q=MHRA

They’re drug industry owned. Denial after denial from them no matter what type of or how much evidence gets dropped in their lap, they just keep denying.


15 posted on 06/24/2012 1:47:22 AM PDT by To-Whose-Benefit? (It is Error alone which needs the support of Government. The Truth can stand by itself.)
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To: Pontiac

Also Mercury is bad, but in the amounts in vaccines is quite low.

You would get more eating tuna.

I think accelerants in vaccines are to blame.


16 posted on 06/24/2012 1:49:19 AM PDT by GraceG
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To: To-Whose-Benefit?

Besides antidepressants in water there is also estrogen from birth control pills and High Fructose Corn Syrup in virtually everything that we eat from catsup to bread....

Add in the accelerants and maybe mercury from vaccines and you have a perfect storm of chemicals washing over all of us...

Maybe the romans drinking their lead acetate laced wine were the lucky one in terms of it driving them crazy....


17 posted on 06/24/2012 1:53:54 AM PDT by GraceG
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To: Slings and Arrows

18 posted on 06/24/2012 1:58:48 AM PDT by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet - Mater tua caligas exercitus gerit ;-{)
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To: savagesusie

My sons are 5 and 6 years old. When they were babies they seemed perfectly fine, they were progressing as normal, my oldest one was starting to say words, then they got the vaccines, they got really sick, and neither one have said a word since, they are both still in diapers, and cognitively are much younger then they really are.
Cases of autism in my area in children my sons age are 1 in 8 (according to autism specialist , and doctors that I deal with on a weekly, sometimes daily basis)
I am around a lot of other parents of autistic children that think as I do about the changes in their children after they received the vaccine.
Holy crap! We all must be crazy!


19 posted on 06/24/2012 2:01:26 AM PDT by yank in the UK ( A liberal mocking Christianity. I asked "why don't you mock Islam?" he replied "Muslims are violent)
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To: GraceG

Grace you have to wonder where the break point is. At what point does the light come on for some people that just because capital’s in play doesn’t mean that that money is being made honestly, and pointing it out doesn’t automatically make you an anti-capitalist or some sort of Occupy type?


20 posted on 06/24/2012 2:02:37 AM PDT by To-Whose-Benefit? (It is Error alone which needs the support of Government. The Truth can stand by itself.)
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To: JoeProBono

Jenny McCarthy’s really changed her look.


21 posted on 06/24/2012 2:07:01 AM PDT by Slings and Arrows (You can't have Ingsoc without an Emmanuel Goldstein.)
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To: yank in the UK

Autism has been around since long before most modern vaccines.
What caused those cases.....

Autism is diagnosed in people who have not been vaccinated.
What caused those cases.....

There is no valid evidence that can be supported by any
credible scientific method to support the baseless claim
of a relationship of any kind between autism and vaccines.

Belief does not constitute proof. Plenty of people believe in
Bigfoot, Little Green Men, Nessie and many other baseless
and unproven phenomenon. This is no different.


22 posted on 06/24/2012 2:09:36 AM PDT by nvscanman
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To: nvscanman

“Autism has been around since long before most modern vaccines.
What caused those cases.....

Autism is diagnosed in people who have not been vaccinated.
What caused those cases.....”

In those cases, when the cases were 1 in 10000 it was most likely genetic (which both of my sons were tested for, and proved that it was NOT genetic in their cases)
Since the 70’s cases of autism in children has spiked by 2700%- 3000%
So you tell me, what caused that?
In 2000 and 2002, the autism estimate was about 1 in 150 children. Two years later 1 in 125 8-year-olds had autism. In 2006, the number was 1 in 110, and the newest data — from 2008 — suggests 1 in 88 children have autism. So... What caused that?


26 posted on 06/24/2012 2:17:21 AM PDT by yank in the UK ( A liberal mocking Christianity. I asked "why don't you mock Islam?" he replied "Muslims are violent)
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To: savagesusie

there are no real margins on vaccines. The profits for drug companies are in newer drugs where they get effective monopolies for X number of years. vaccinations have been going on since the days of Ben Franklin. We aren’t giving them much more than we did 40-45 years ago. But we have broadened the definition and scope of autisim by 400 times. Kids die from not being vaccinated. Diseases that were once ERADICATED are making their way back. Autism can’t be diagnoised before the age of 2. It is coincidence that you happen to get certain shots at that time. Also, Gulf war syndrome has been around hundreds of years before that war. Different names for different times. Arthritis ??? Reallyy??? That just comes w/ age. Put your tin foil hat back on. It will make you feel safe again.


27 posted on 06/24/2012 2:22:47 AM PDT by Jath
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To: yank in the UK

An autism diagnosis brings in government money. Doctors thus invented the “autism spectrum,” which means many more illnesses are diagnosed as autism now.


28 posted on 06/24/2012 2:24:42 AM PDT by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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To: Jath

“Put your tin foil hat back on. It will make you feel safe again.”

http://www.ahrp.org/cms/content/view/811/150/

Two Prominent Vaccine “Experts” Exposed

Tuesday, 17 May 2011
One has been criminally indicted on 13 counts of fraud, 9 counts of money laundering , and theft of $1 million. The other was found to have made a series of “unsubstantiated and/or false” statements and slanderous accusations.


29 posted on 06/24/2012 2:35:59 AM PDT by To-Whose-Benefit? (It is Error alone which needs the support of Government. The Truth can stand by itself.)
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To: Jath

http://www.ahrp.org/cms/content/view/804/103/

Federal Court Compensated 83 Vaccine-Injured Autistic Children

Tuesday, 10 May 2011
New study uncovered 83 federal-court- adjudicated cases of autism linked to vaccine-induced injury—thereby unmasking government duplicity.

For over 20 years, the federal government has vehemently denied a vaccine-autism link. But a new study, the first to examine the successfully adjudicated cases of vaccine-induced brain injury by the federal Vaccine Injury Compensation Program (VICP), uncovered 83 cases of autism among those who have been compensated for vaccine- induced brain damage—most notably, “encephalopathy,” “residual seizure disorder,” “developmental regression.”

The evidence uncovered by this study, clearly belies public pronouncements by government officials who have for decades misled the public by claiming emphatically that “no evidence exists linking autism to vaccines” and “no case of vaccine- induced autism has ever been compensated.”


30 posted on 06/24/2012 2:43:43 AM PDT by To-Whose-Benefit? (It is Error alone which needs the support of Government. The Truth can stand by itself.)
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To: To-Whose-Benefit?

WOW! Imagine that. Thanks for the link


31 posted on 06/24/2012 2:44:50 AM PDT by yank in the UK ( A liberal mocking Christianity. I asked "why don't you mock Islam?" he replied "Muslims are violent)
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To: savagesusie

What is your opinion on the frequent ultrasounds that pregnant women are getting these days? These high-frequency sound waves on a developing baby’s brain from the very beginning of existence seems suspect to me in regards to the increasing rate of autism diagnosis.

As a side note, I had a conversation with a school psychologist who said that the guidelines for diagnosing “autism” have been widened to include children who are NOT autistic. It helps increase the funds that a school is “entitled” to and she was disgusted by the required labeling of children.


32 posted on 06/24/2012 2:53:20 AM PDT by Bluebird Singing
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To: yank in the UK

prayers lifted for you and your children. That has got to be a tough burden to bear. You obviously are a loving, caring mom who just wants the best for your children, even when it meant vaccinating them and thereby putting them at risk for other health-related issues. I can understand your desire to passionately protect them from further harm and your compassion for other children as well. A mother’s love is a powerful force!

Blessings and prayers for you & your children lifted up to Him who knows our inmost parts, who created us all!


33 posted on 06/24/2012 2:58:57 AM PDT by sassy steel magnolia (USAF life and Navy wife...God Bless the USA!)
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To: sassy steel magnolia

Thank you kindly for that, but I must point out that I am the father. Thank you for not calling me crazy. Your a gem


34 posted on 06/24/2012 3:02:52 AM PDT by yank in the UK ( A liberal mocking Christianity. I asked "why don't you mock Islam?" he replied "Muslims are violent)
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To: yank in the UK

Google iodine and autism.


35 posted on 06/24/2012 3:07:43 AM PDT by monocle
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To: yank in the UK

oops, “my bad” as my 14 yr old says! Guess I should have had real coffee first this morning, instead of the decaf! :)


36 posted on 06/24/2012 3:12:12 AM PDT by sassy steel magnolia (USAF life and Navy wife...God Bless the USA!)
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To: Slings and Arrows; yank in the UK; savagesusie

‘______so-called link between autism and vaccines has been thoroughly discredited.’

Believe that if you want.
I and others are betting the subject is not closed. Watch for a partial - or full - reversal . . . kind of like ‘coffee is good, no bad, NO, - GOOD for you!’

While everyone is concentrating on the autism connection, we’re missing all the other probable harm from vaccines.
Most of us are unaware of the extent of damage caused by vaccines.

Are autoimmune diseases and developmental disorders triggered by mandatory vaccines?
Can vaccines alter DNA?
Are vaccines really safe and effective??!

Other questions:
Did you know the pertussis and measles vaccines may cause seizures, brain damage, and death?
That tetanus and diptheria vaccines have been ‘stabilized’ with formaldehyde - a known carcinogen?
That the live-virus polio vaccine has been the major cause of any polio in the U.S.?

All these risks for no really good reason.

For good information on the facts, risks and benefits(?) of vaccinations, contact the National Vaccine Information Center, Vienna VA. Barbara Loe Fisher, director.
This agency does not advise for or against vaccinations.
That is left to us.
There are many publications on the subject, including articles now and again in ‘Mothering Magazine.’

Sorry some feel those of us who have families not vaccinated - going way back - think we are crazy.
Talking 11 grandkids here - 5 to 25.
This senior and super-senior spouse have never had the flu vaccine, nor get the flu.
Hm m m m, why is that?
We do feel responsible, however, for keeping healthy thru nutritional knowledge. Meaning food and supplements. And being neither faddists or purists.

Oh gosh, left myself open to possibly being called crazy - -

Lastly, believe God had not planned for a CLOSED blood system to be injected with toxic junk.


37 posted on 06/24/2012 3:31:19 AM PDT by USARightSide ( SUPPORTING O U R TROOPS)
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To: yank in the UK
...pumped full of mercury and aluminium...

How many pounds of each was used to "pump" your children "full" of them?

38 posted on 06/24/2012 3:37:36 AM PDT by raybbr (People who still support Obama are either a Marxist or a moron.)
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To: To-Whose-Benefit?

That’s interesting, sad and somehow not surprising about the antidepressant link, particularly in the first trimester.

It is a huge number, I think it is something like 1 in 8 women in the US, taking antidepressants now.


39 posted on 06/24/2012 3:50:35 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: yank in the UK

The latest good science indicates that autistic kids have 67% more brain cells than healthy normal adults. The excess brain cells produce the white noise that the renders the kids dis-functional. Every vertebrate newborn duplicates the same process of eliminating these excess brain cells. It is the inability to get glutamate into the excess brain cells, as an excitotoxin, the allows those excess brain cells to survive.


40 posted on 06/24/2012 3:52:08 AM PDT by kruss3 (Kruss3@gmail.com)
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To: raybbr

That was metaphorically speaking smarta$$


41 posted on 06/24/2012 3:53:28 AM PDT by yank in the UK ( A liberal mocking Christianity. I asked "why don't you mock Islam?" he replied "Muslims are violent)
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To: yank in the UK

In the US at least, there are likely three factors all combining for the increase in autism diagnoses:

1) The definition of autism was officially broadened to include a whole ‘spectrum’, whereas it was once a very limited and extreme diagnosis.

2) There is funding now for both schools and parents with kids given the diagnosis, which has encouraged parents of children with all kinds of developmental, behavioral and mental disorders to seek an autism diagnosis—and professionals to give one.

3) Some sort of environmental/exposure factor is also likely involved, as we know that the incidence of fairly severe autism has increased in certain regions and populations quite dramatically.

That #3 is still unclear, but I wonder have you seen and investigated the newly discovered potential link to antidepressants, as posted on this thread?


42 posted on 06/24/2012 4:01:50 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: raybbr
When you give instructions to, or speak to autistic people you must speak in concrete terms, and not use metaphors (raining cats and dogs for instance)
I didn't realize you were on the Autistic spectrum, so let me apologize for referring to you as a smart ass. Your probably more of the latter then the former
43 posted on 06/24/2012 4:02:59 AM PDT by yank in the UK ( A liberal mocking Christianity. I asked "why don't you mock Islam?" he replied "Muslims are violent)
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To: Bluebird Singing

‘________sound waves on a developing baby’s brain_______’

If I were still bearing children, I would forgo the ultra-sound.

I remember years ago wondering if ultrasounds were risky - convinced myself they can’t be good for the fetus.

Seeing the videos of the happy parents-in-waiting ooo-ing and aaah-ing during the ultrasound makes me nuts - the amount of time these parents allow the tech to operate that equipment on mom’s abdomen is criminal, thank you.
And that picture one gets for the ‘fridge magnet - seduces the parents, but leaves me confounded - what the ‘H’ am I looking at??!

If the doc really suspects something, go ahead with a quick ultrasound, but all that other stuff - c’mon!
Recalling one of our daughter’s friends was having some sort of problem, and I suggested they consider the ultrasounds she had . .
Don’t think anybody does. . .


44 posted on 06/24/2012 4:05:14 AM PDT by USARightSide ( SUPPORTING O U R TROOPS)
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To: yank in the UK
MMR causes autism, Italian court case
45 posted on 06/24/2012 4:09:02 AM PDT by opentalk
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To: To-Whose-Benefit?

I personally just don’t see the point in getting vaccinated against every little malady mankind has suffered for thousands of years. In fact I’m not so sure it isn’t more harmful than helpful.

Obviously the smallpox vaccine was a good thing but the drawback is that there is so little natural immunity that if it made a comeback, the mortality rate would be much higher.

I’m simply not going to waste my time or money on crap like flu and chickenpox vaccines.


46 posted on 06/24/2012 4:16:03 AM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: savagesusie
Your post is spot on (as usual!). However, the “Normalcy Bias” strikes again. A lot of people just can't believe that those companies and doctors would lie to people, force them and their children to be harmed, support a eugenics agenda, and place massive profit over public health. Nope, most folks have been brainwashed since birth that the doctors and medical establishment are “good” and always want to “help” us.

As time goes on (and things worsen daily), I find that the “Normalcy Bias” is one of the most dangerous forces in play; we see its ill effects all around us, constantly.

47 posted on 06/24/2012 4:19:18 AM PDT by zzeeman ("We can evade reality, but we cannot evade the consequences of evading reality.")
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To: savagesusie

Yea...its all in the Squalene


48 posted on 06/24/2012 4:19:34 AM PDT by spokeshave (The only people better off today than 4 years ago are the Prisoners at Guantanamo.)
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To: yank in the UK

My nephew became autistic soon after being vaccinated.

You’re right, it’s a bloody epidemic.


49 posted on 06/24/2012 4:21:21 AM PDT by agere_contra
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I just had a conversation with someone at work about this subject last week. For some strange reason she bacame very angry and said, “We had vaccines as kids and we don’t have autism.” Is it possible that the changing content and frequency of the vaccines might have altered the outcomes? Naa, couldn’t be.

Remember folks, nothing bad is on the increase (except man-made global warming), it’s just that we hear more about the negative stuff because of the internet. /s You’d be surprised how many times I’ve heard people say that.


50 posted on 06/24/2012 4:31:29 AM PDT by Hayride
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