Free Republic
Browse · Search
General/Chat
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

Vaccines And Autism: The Secret That You Are Not Supposed To Know
End of the American dream ^ | 21st June 2012 | N/A

Posted on 06/24/2012 1:15:35 AM PDT by yank in the UK

click here to read article


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-20 ... 81-100101-120121-140 ... 161-168 next last
To: yank in the UK

Since they put aborted this, aborted that (from babies to various animals) tissues in many vaccines, and a lot of it IS on purpose to dumb the population down, if not kill us off faster, I’m not surprised.


101 posted on 06/24/2012 8:51:38 AM PDT by Borax Queen
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: yank in the UK

Since they put aborted this, aborted that (from babies to various animals) tissues in many vaccines, and a lot of it IS on purpose to dumb the population down, if not kill us off faster, I’m not surprised.


102 posted on 06/24/2012 8:51:51 AM PDT by Borax Queen
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: yank in the UK

Since they put aborted this, aborted that (from babies to various animals) tissues in many vaccines, and a lot of it IS on purpose to dumb the population down, if not kill us off faster, I’m not surprised.


103 posted on 06/24/2012 8:52:02 AM PDT by Borax Queen
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: SoftballMominVA

No, I wasn’t. What larger congressional bill was this (presumably) stuck into?


104 posted on 06/24/2012 11:10:07 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 95 | View Replies]

To: samtheman

Thank you.


105 posted on 06/24/2012 11:22:28 AM PDT by Slings and Arrows (You can't have Ingsoc without an Emmanuel Goldstein.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 93 | View Replies]

To: Borax Queen
That is not true. Vaccines are not made from nor do they contain fetal tissues. Some live/killed virus vaccines, The Hepatitis A vaccine, the MMR vaccine, and the chicken pox vaccine for example, are grown in human cells. True these cell lines came from aborted fetuses, specifically from two abortions over 30 years ago. But those two cells lines have been replicated ever since. No babies today are being aborted in order to harvest their cells to make vaccinations (grow the live virus) and the vaccinations do not chopped up babies.

http://www.drwile.com/lnkpages/render.asp?vac_abortion

http://autism.about.com/od/medicalissuesandautis1/f/vaxfetal.htm

106 posted on 06/24/2012 11:52:32 AM PDT by MD Expat in PA
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 103 | View Replies]

To: yank in the UK; TeĆ³filo; Cronos; wagglebee; dsc; Deo volente; MarkBsnr; Mad Dawg; ...

Here’s another possibility most folks have not seriously considered:

Vaccines have cured many of the greatest killers mankind has ever known.

This has caused no end to the consternation of those environmentalists, progressives, communists, and others who desire the human population to be reduced to half a billion.

Therefore, they have resorted to a campaign to undermine the vaccine movement in general, hoping the masses forgo vaccines in order to reintroduce those wonderful disease driven population collapses that were so rampant in the pre-modern age.

Think about it folks before you accept any anti-vaccine propaganda at face value. And very carefully examine who exactly originates the anti-vaccine claims. If they are also environmentalists or population controllers, or Scientologists, or are simply repeating the claims of these three groups, then be very skeptical of their claims.

Vaccines do not intrinsically violate Natural Law or basic Christian morality. Therefore, they are not intrinsically immoral. Frankly, because they alleviate immense amounts of suffering and death, many vaccines are not only morally neutral but also a moral good.

The ONLY vaccines that are intrinsically immoral are those derived from fetal stem cells lines.

And not surprisingly, the ONLY real links between vaccines and autism can be directly linked to these types of vaccines.

Violate Natural Law or basic Christian morality, and there will ALWAYS be temporal and spiritual consequences. But look for the violation of Natural Law or basic Christian morality first, then you’ll find the real links.


107 posted on 06/24/2012 2:36:32 PM PDT by Brian Kopp DPM
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: MD Expat in PA
Vatican condemns vaccines derived from aborted fetuses, puts onus on pharma

Vatican City, Jul 19, 2005 / 12:00 am (CNA).- In a recent document, the Vatican has condemned the production and use of vaccines derived from aborted fetal cell lines. The Pontifical Academy for Life’s eight-page document was published in Medicina e Morale by the Center for Bioethics of Catholic University in Rome. It is titled “Moral Reflections on Vaccines Prepared from Cells Derived from Aborted Human Fetuses.”

Vatican officials have put the full burden of guilt on the pharmaceutical industry, comparing their moral complicity to that of the abortionists themselves. They are also calling for "rigorous legal control of the pharmaceutical industry producers."

The Vatican also supports parents who refuse to use the vaccines. “As regards the diseases against which there are no alternative vaccines which are available and ethically acceptable, it is right to abstain from using these vaccines if it can be done without causing children, and indirectly the population as a whole, to undergo significant risks to their health,” the statement reads.

The document states that doctors and families "should use conscientious objection and oppose by all means – in writing, through various associations, mass media, etc, - the vaccines which do not yet have morally acceptable alternatives, creating pressure so that alternative vaccines are prepared, which are not connected with the abortion of a human fetus.”

Children of God for Life executive director Debi Vinnedge said she is pleased with the document. Her organization had sent an appeal on the matter to the Vatican a few years ago.

"There is a serious problem when parents are denied the right to abstain from these vaccines in accord with State law, simply because there was nothing from the Vatican directly addressing it,” she said.

Vinnedge says the Vatican document should spur action on their Fair Labeling and Informed Consent Act, introduced to members of Congress earlier this year. The legislation requires that pharmaceutical companies give full disclosure whenever aborted fetal or embryonic cell lines are used in their products.

Dr. Steven White, president of the Catholic Medical Association, agreed that the pharmaceutical industry should provide accurate information on the origin of all vaccines so that consumers “are able to make informed decisions in accord with our moral conscience.”

To reed the full Vatican Document visit: http://www.cogforlife.org/vaticanresponse.htm

108 posted on 06/24/2012 2:55:33 PM PDT by Brian Kopp DPM
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 107 | View Replies]

To: yank in the UK; Yaelle; Pigsley; cripplecreek; 9YearLurker; GraceG; All

There are too many here in the ‘blaming vaccines = tin foil hat’ category to address them individually, so,

Once people get a diagnosis, of Anything, their odds of acquiring pharmaceutically induced damage of one kind or another skyrocket because the diagnosis comes with one kind of medical intervention or another.

The threshold for tagging someone as autistic has indeed be lowered and broadened because 40 or 50 years ago we didn’t live in a world where everyone had to have a college degree and college degrees don’t confer genius, only a paper stating the holder passed the required tests in one particular field of knowledge.

The medical field of knowledge at the University level has become increasingly funded by drug companies making products to sell. Hence the suppression of research showing drug co. products in a negative light. Tenured University academics are currently allowed to take money from drug companies on the side but they must disclose those payments to their university bosses. Senator Charles Grassley (R-Iowa) has been raising all kinds of hell in the last few years rooting out researchers who don’t disclose the side money and falsify their research in return for it.

Paxil study 329 is just the tip of an iceberg.
https://www.google.com/search?q=paxil+329+study&hl=en&gbv=2&gs_l=hp.1.2.35i39j0l4j0i10l2j0l3.1986.3702.0.7962.4.4.0.0.0.0.114.300.3j1.4.0...0.0.0qnZfDqvYf4&oq=paxil%2B329&aq=1C&aqi=g-C2g-CK2&aql=

One drug company agenda is to manufacture expanded lists of FDA approved uses for already existing products. It’s a lot cheaper for them than developing a whole new drug.

Hand in hand with that goes sales depts. pushing products to Doctors for off-label use, which is illegal and keeps getting them Billion dollar Federal fines.

Students at any University in any field learn early you don’t contradict the Professors if you want a good grade. They parrot back whatever the Prof feeds them and drug companies pump hundreds of Million into those Universities. Biting the hand that feeds the University is severely frowned upon. So one side effect from one drug gets treated with a second drug carrying its own side effects and on and on.

Whatever else students graduate with, they leave, even those with the best of intentions, with the uneasy reality that rocking the boat even in the private sector is a damn fool idea. And the private sector for Docs is a much smaller sector than most people think it is. Hospitals welcome drug company research grants too and many qualify themselves as Teaching Hospitals for the Non-Profit tax benefits.

RWJF is part of the J&J empire. J&J bought FDA approval to market Risperdal for the treatment of irritability in autism. It’s a drug originally marketed to control psychosis in Schizophrenics and it bashes the daylights out of people.

This is just what FDA’s Medwatch got from Jan 2004-Sept 2009
http://lamplightersoftware.com/dsm.php

Risperidone Reported By
Adverse Reaction Cases MD CN OT PH LW NR
Suicidal Ideations 142 86 63 51 3 2 10
Attempted Suicides 248 248 25 53 17 6 11
Completed Suicides 107 84 12 37 9 4 4
Deaths Not From Suicide 900 788 135 357 75 48 33
Homicidal Ideations 16 16 2 14 0 0 0
Homicides 14 14 3 1 2 1 1
Hypomania/Mania 31 18 8 9 0 0 5
Heart Disease 318 262 37 90 44 8 18
Movement Disorders 964 535 226 355 132 37 76
Birth Defects 50 37 3 24 6 0 3
Premature Births 11 9 0 6 0 0 0
Prenatal/Neonatal Deaths 45 34 12 22 4 0 0

And the FDA actually granted them approval for ‘irritability associated with autism’

see also
http://psychrights.org/Drugs/AllenJonesTMAPJanuary20.pdf

Look up the RWJF grants at Hospitals and Universities in your own neighborhood.
http://www.rwjf.org/grants/search.jsp?name=GRANTS&q=UCSF&src=gr&isgrant=1&isprod=1&search_options=GRANTS
use the search box and look at some of the Silly A** crap they’re funding. It’s studied to gin up junk papers in med journals showing that J&J drugs worked well to keep kids from overeating after school snacks and such.

See my comments/links on this thread too.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2897171/posts?q=1&;page=51

Skepticism regarding pharmaceutical products does not require a tin foil hat.

Follow the money.


109 posted on 06/24/2012 2:57:21 PM PDT by To-Whose-Benefit? (It is Error alone which needs the support of Government. The Truth can stand by itself.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 58 | View Replies]

To: stylecouncilor

Ping


110 posted on 06/24/2012 3:08:59 PM PDT by windcliff
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: yank in the UK

24 hour kids programs and DVDs screw up the hardwiring in an infant’s brain, IMO.

Isn’t it funny how there was a huge uptick in Autism and Aspergers around the same time Cable and VCRs began to show kids tv on demand?


111 posted on 06/24/2012 3:33:39 PM PDT by netmilsmom (Romney scares me. Obama is the freaking nightmare that is so bad you are afraid to go back to sleep)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: netmilsmom

TV Implicated in Autism Rise
Business Professors’ Study Links Too Much Toddler TV Time to Autism

http://www.webmd.com/brain/autism/news/20061019/tv-implicated-in-autism-rise


112 posted on 06/24/2012 4:18:46 PM PDT by ilovesarah2012
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 111 | View Replies]

To: netmilsmom

TV Implicated in Autism Rise
Business Professors’ Study Links Too Much Toddler TV Time to Autism

http://www.webmd.com/brain/autism/news/20061019/tv-implicated-in-autism-rise


113 posted on 06/24/2012 4:20:20 PM PDT by ilovesarah2012
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 111 | View Replies]

To: netmilsmom

TV Implicated in Autism Rise
Business Professors’ Study Links Too Much Toddler TV Time to Autism

http://www.webmd.com/brain/autism/news/20061019/tv-implicated-in-autism-rise


114 posted on 06/24/2012 4:26:08 PM PDT by ilovesarah2012
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 111 | View Replies]

To: ilovesarah2012

I should have gotten a grant and studied it. Poo.

“Sure enough, they found that areas with the most cable TV subscribers had the most autistic children.”


115 posted on 06/24/2012 4:43:55 PM PDT by netmilsmom (Romney scares me. Obama is the freaking nightmare that is so bad you are afraid to go back to sleep)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 112 | View Replies]

To: zzeeman

Yes-—Normalcy Bias...which is natural in man. But this only becomes really destructive when there is no Free Debate— because Truth is being stifled and people remain ignorant—uneducated in schools. They can not be rational and use simple common sense.

Schools became indoctrination centers in the 30’s thanks to Dewey—the Fabian Socialist.

Anyone who thinks Big Pharma cares about your babies-—are seriously ignorant of history—and how power corrupts. They care as much about the health of your baby as Goebbels did. The elite and powerful actually want to depopulate the earth—and they have stated it many times.

Sickly kids are directly correlated with the introduction of more vaccines for kids. I never heard of Autism in the 70’s-—and as soon as vaccines were upped to obscene levels and for vulnerable infants (and filled with mercury), funny thing happened-—an epidemic occurred. A word unknown—Autism— became as common as Apple Pie in the 80’s. Hmmmmm. Common sense, people???? What other change was there-—?????? NOTHING but vaccines at that time. With the increase in vaccines-—wow—increase in Autism. THERE IS NO MAN BEHIND THE CURTAIN——look it is the parent’s defective genes!!!!!!!!!!!

Ha—that is what they said about dyslexia when it became epidemic in schools-—after they took out phonics. It is the parent’s genetic fault!!!!!!!!! Can’t be the socialist indoctrination factories that are intentionally destroying children’s thinking process with cognitive dissonance (ex-KGB Yuri B.)

It really makes me mad, how people have no common sense and trust the big Crony Capitalist corporations who control trillions and all research and publications. Same evil people as the Bilderbergers who want people in sardine cans off of their playground. Same Marxists who push Agenda 21 and Global Warming to destroy our economy so we become slaves.

Truth is not allowed anymore-—it is supplanted by Political Correctness and Hate Speech—(from Mao philosophy to force one way of thought).

Truth has a way at making sense if it is allowed to surface. Right now, we have their totalitarian system Alinsky-attacking EVERYONE—who even whispers the Truth that vaccines just MAY be the problem. Vaccines are proven to cause all sorts of neurological problems-—exactly what Autism is.

Most of our Foundations and universities and schools are totally controlled by Marxists—and, trust me, they LIE. AND they want billions of people killed and the rest as slaves for the few elites. It is the trusting Christians who believe their cr*p because only good people trust others. Quit trusting Marxists. You NEVER CAN!!!!! Wake up!!!! Get your kids out of the brainwashing Marxist schools and homeschool!


116 posted on 06/24/2012 5:02:41 PM PDT by savagesusie (Right Reason According to Nature = Just Law)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 47 | View Replies]

To: MD Expat in PA

Please do not put words in my mouth while calling me a liar. I never said that babies are aborted today, and don’t need your condescending b.s. It sounds like you’re perfectly fine with the aborted babies one generation ago messing with today’s babies.


117 posted on 06/24/2012 5:18:36 PM PDT by Borax Queen
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 106 | View Replies]

To: savagesusie

>>What other change was there-—?????? <<

24 hour kids tv and videotapes on demand.
Moms working and putting kids in daycare from an early age where the tv played constantly then moving them to homes where mom and dad are so tired the kids watch tv to keep them amused.

Even at the YMCA, where I put my kids for an hour to work out, the tv blared with high pitched sounds and constant changing of pictures. Understanding the the model is Sesame Street that shoots for a change on the screen every minute and a half, that’s an awful lot of input to synapses that are developing faster than at any other time in a human life.

The brain is a funny thing.

It’s not “Big Pharma”. It’s the government that demands so much income from a family that two people have to work.


118 posted on 06/24/2012 5:22:50 PM PDT by netmilsmom (Romney scares me. Obama is the freaking nightmare that is so bad you are afraid to go back to sleep)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 116 | View Replies]

To: Slings and Arrows; yank in the UK

“...the so-called link between autism and vaccines has been thoroughly discredited.”

Total BS post...discredited by whom, the vaccine makers and profiteers?


119 posted on 06/24/2012 5:25:18 PM PDT by GGpaX4DumpedTea (I am a Tea Party descendant...steeped in the Constitutional Republic given to us by the Founders.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]

To: Sudetenland

Not necessarily. Beware the Skeptic’s Fallacy as well. Many of our most important advances began as a suspicious collection of anecdotes, common sense correlations that ordinary people were making that were inconsistent with the scientific orthodoxy of the time. Yes, there is a true believer syndrome. But as the Skeptic’s Fallacy informs us, it is error to ignore all reports of trouble simply because some such reports may be attributed to poor analysis. The truly open mind is not put off by either false positives OR false negatives, but remains open to continuous improvement of understanding.


120 posted on 06/24/2012 5:46:42 PM PDT by Springfield Reformer (Winston Churchill: No Peace Till Victory!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 70 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-20 ... 81-100101-120121-140 ... 161-168 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
General/Chat
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson