Skip to comments.Vaccines And Autism: The Secret That You Are Not Supposed To Know
Posted on 06/24/2012 1:15:35 AM PDT by yank in the UK
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That’s exactly right. Those same people don’t realize what is happening to our Franken-food (”oh, but we can trust the FDA!”) or with the air (dropping aluminum in the skies to prevent fake global warming, “oh, but the EPA would tell us if it were unhealthy to breathe!”), not to mention all the pharms and junk in the water already.
Well you got me. And I stand corrected in that your posts seemed to be supporting the vaccination = autism claim. I see now that you are quite skeptical of those claims and good for you. However you need to do some more research into the claims of fetal DNA in vaccines being a cause for Autism as there is no solid scientific evidence to support that claim any more than bad mom, mercury or TV theories are definitive cause, or that vaccines contain any fetal DNA or even if they do, it would be in such miniscule and fragments amounts as to have a negligible effect. If that is proven not to be the case, I will stand corrected there as well.
But otherwise it would seem we are, well, mostly on the same page.
What bothers me is how so many are willing to jump on the band wagon that vaccinations are bad based on junk science and the claims of expert celebrities like Jenny McCarthy. Many of these same people willingly jump on the AGW bandwagon, the meat is bad bandwagon, the only good foods are organic foods bandwagon, cell phone towers cause cancer bandwagon, the Pharmaceutical Companies and Doctors are engaging in a vast conspiracy to kill us all bandwagon. I could also mention the Area 51 cover-up theories as part of this overall group too.
There is however a very clear link between parents choosing not to vaccinate their children along with a influx of illegal and medically unscreened aliens from third world countries and the rise in instances of once rare and potentially fatal childhood diseases that vaccinations had nearly all but eliminated in the US and other developed nations.
Again, it would seem we perhaps agree more than we disagree.
It’s tough alright. You can filter your water, try to grow as much as your own food as possible (and that mileage varies greatly by location and circumstance), but the assaults are relentless. I suspect that people would have had to begin waking up 30-40 years ago to prevent the mess that we have now; at this point, I’m not too optimistic...
Completely. We use an AquaRain which is supposed to remove a lot of the junk, but you’re right, the assaults are non-stop. I can sit by my ionizer and take my vitamins on certain really bad days, but I was speaking to befuddled zombies 30 years ago and now to fluoride-head zombies, I don’t have much hope left either...
Good link, thank you.
I’d say that a large portion of the people that have commented on this thread are bloody ignorant, and haven’t a clue what they are talking about. How many of you people have ever even been around someone that is autistic? How many of you witnessed personally the regression of a perfectly normal child immediately after having an MMR injection? Say what you want, call me crazy, accuse me of being part of the tin foil hat brigade, I’m not bothered. I have personally seen it happen not once but twice.
One question. If you believe vaccines are effective and confer immunity, why would you need to fear the unvaccinated? Theoretically, according to your beliefs, the unvaccinated should only be able to infect each other.
I can only wish you and your family the best with your daily struggles; hopefully the real truth about this issue will emerge before countless other children are damaged needlessly. Stay strong FRiend.
(See next post for link to a movie that you may find of interest.)
All: If you haven't hear about this, you may be interested in this movie of the topic: Greater Good - Movie
They are not merely my beliefs. Its called herd immunity and its well documented.
No vaccine offers complete protection, but the spread of disease from person to person is much higher in those who remain unvaccinated. It is the general aim of those involved in public health to establish herd immunity in most populations. Complications arise when widespread vaccination is not possible or when vaccines are rejected by a part of the population. As of 2009, herd immunity is compromised in some areas for some vaccine-preventable diseases, including pertussis* and measles** and mumps***, in part because of parental refusal of vaccination.
In other words; there are always going to be, even among the vaccinated population, a small number of people for whom the vaccination failed, a number of people who were recently vaccinated but for whom the vaccination has not yet reached its full efficacy, some people who havent received booster shots of certain vaccines that require boosters and didnt get them, those who have highly compromised immune systems think cancer patients and then infants who havent yet been vaccinated and are between receiving, if they were breast fed, anti-bodies via the mothers colostrum; only if the mother has antibodies or who were vaccinated, and receiving vaccinations or the recommended booster shots, thusly reaching full efficacy.
So in other words, the more people properly vaccinated, the lesser the chance that diseases for which there are vaccinations, can spread among the population in general and especially among vunerable populations.
So yes, if you choose not to vaccinate, do everyone a favor and stay away, far, far away from those of us and our families who dont want to perchance catch what you have.
*** Mumps outbreak
I’m glad we live in a free society (still) where you are free to choose to use toxins and I am free to decline.
Thank you, good to know!
That's an excellent point. But they act like some cult, where everyone has to take the drink of purple stuff.
That’s a terrible story. But the zombies and those pretending to be doctors on the Internet will never comprehend how most of the “outbreaks” are manufactured by their friends.
On January 20, 2000, the 43rd President of the U.S., George W. Bush, was inaugurated and immediately appointed his "right hand man" Donald Rumsfeld as Secretary of Defense. Rumsfeld, the former CEO of Searle Pharmaceutical, was one of the most powerful and manipulative players in the world of the "Big Pharma" racket.
On September 11, 2001, just 20 months later, three of the most popular buildings in the world crumbled to the ground demolition style (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zv7BImVvEyk) in New York City, killing over 3,000 Americans. Rumsfeld was crucial in planning the United States' response to the "attacks," and shortly thereafter the U.S. conveniently waged "pre-emptive" wars in Iraq and Afghanistan.
So not only were both Pearl Harbor and 9-11 inside jobs (Pearl Harbor having nothing at all to do with the Japanese and 9-11 having nothing to do with Islamic terrorists BTW), FDR, GWB and Donald Rumsfeld and various members of the vast conspiracy that no doubt includes members of the British royal family and the Bilderbergers and members of the Hasting Pudding Club and probably your own HOA, manufactured it all; they planted explosives on ships in Pearl Harbor to just make it look like the Japs did it and they blew up the World Trade Center towers and made it look like a terrorist attack; all to help their buddies in Big Oil and Big Pharma and its all probably related to contrails, rainbow vapors, UFOs, Area 51 too.
Do you really read this crap? Do you also have a subscription to Mother Jones and High Times?
And for your and others edification:
First of all, this is a class action lawsuit that hasnt even gone to trial yet so this is not yet a cut and dried verdict of guilt against Merck. But if the whistle blowers, the plaintiff (a small medical practice in Alabama) and their Philadelphia lawyers are correct that Merck falsified test results, Merck will pay big time and should. However:
Merck has presented information that demonstrated to the United States Department of Justice that these allegations are factually false, and after the Department conducted its own two-year investigation, it decided not to pursue this lawsuit, Rogers said.
In addition, he said, the U.S. Food and Drug Administration previously examined the issues raised in the lawsuit, and they were resolved to the agencys satisfaction.
It could be a vast conspiracy OTOH, it could be that the False Claims Act complaint had no merit.
So we will both have to wait and see what the outcome is after this class action suit based on not a claim of bodily harm but on an antitrust complaint, goes to a jury although I have little faith of a tort jury finding truth when its so much easier to see deep pockets and award damages because, well because after all its not their money.
Chatom seeks to represent the class of all those who bought Mercks mumps vaccine from Jan. 1, 1999 to today. Chatom is represented by Richard Golomb of Golomb & Honik, in Philadelphia.
Golomb & Honik BTW is a Philadelphia law firm that specializes in big class action, product liability and medical law practice lawsuits and Chatom is a small medical practice in Alabama that seems to consist of one doctor with no substantial interest in an anti-trust case. So why are they (Chatom) suing Merck? Because a firm like Golomb & Honik cant file a big class action lawsuit without a plantiff .follow the money.
So in other words, they, the law firm mostly, is poised to make lots of money, the law firms seeded plaintiff will make some, but pretty much no one else (like anyone one who actually caught the mumps after being vaccinated) will ever see a dime even if Merck was in the wrong.
It claims that the degraded quality of the Merck vaccine played a role in a 2006 mumps outbreak in the Midwest, and in another outbreak in 2009.
If anything this actually bolters the importance of an effective vaccine and vaccination program, not that an effective vaccine is to blame. Interestingly this paper
on the 2006 Mumps outbreak seems to indicate that the lack of receiving the recommended booster shots was, along with an outbreak among unvaccinated populations in the UK*, in great part to blame for the 2006 outbreak, not the lack of efficacy of the vaccination its self.
Oh and if you think that perchance Big Pharma is alone in falsifying data, think again: *