Skip to comments.Does It Matter If the Heroine of 'Brave' Is Gay?
Posted on 06/26/2012 8:10:11 AM PDT by C19fan
Merida, the heroine of Pixar's Brave, doesn't want to marry. Not now, she repeatedly tells her mother, Queen Elinor, and perhaps not ever. Faced with the prospect of being forced to wed one of a trio of loutish suitors, she runs away from home in search of some way to change the "fate" she was born into. That's the radical thing about Brave: Merida is a Disney princess who doesn't want a prince.
She also happens to be a tomboy, a tough and sporty archer who would rather be riding her horse than wearing a dress. On Sunday, Entertainment Weekly's Adam Markovitz used these details to draw a connection between Bravewhich racked up $66 million over the weekendand another event in the news:
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All this gay crap is boring me to death.
Was Peppermint Patty gay?
Saw this movie this weekend with my kids. This is such BS. There was NO inferance to Merida being gay. This is RIDICULOUS. The girl just didn’t want an arranged marriage but was willing to do it to make the peace...
Sounds like "Beauty and the Beast", where Belle didn't want anything to do with Gaston.
On Sunday, Entertainment Weekly’s Adam Markovitz used these details to draw a connection between Brave .... because Adam is so frickin gay it scares ya.
Ok, thanks for the info. Reviews from Freepers help out.
The author is a stupid jerk. Even the readers of Atlantic, who are presumably mostly libs, get it, but all the reviewer can say is, “Read my essay.”
Well, they did read his essay. And they rightly concluded that his argument is stupid.
And he says, in one of his responses, that Disney is mean to girls? Good grief. For the past several decades, Disney has made girls strong and boys weak. They have been totally into feminism. Nor was the earlier, classic Disney ever mean to girls.
The author is evidently a feminist-brainwashed wimp, if not a homo.
‘Brave’ is a pretty good Pixar movie about an independent woman, her relationship with her mother, and her freedom.
In no way, shape, or form did the main character show any sign of attraction to women. In fact, in one very short instance, she showed brief interest in a very muscular warrior who was mistaken to be a third suitor.
The MSM needs a clue. Not everything has a homo in it.
Three times I’ve seen professed “lesbians” willing to “go straight” for the right man.
re: “What sick minds to be so obsessed with finding something homo in everything.”
I agree with you on this one for now.
I must admit after seeing one trailer of the film, I was wondering the same thing as the writer of the article - why? Because the “gay” rights issue has so permeated every aspect of our society lately that I wondered if Disney was pushing it into children’s films.
However, after viewing all the trailers, and, doing some background research on the film and its story I don’t believe that to be the case. Its just a story of a tom-boy young girl who doesn’t want to marry any of the three losers she’s supposed to pick from. The story is more about the mother-daughter conflict between the heroine and her mom - stuff that many female adolescents go through.
So, in this case, just take the story for what it is and don’t read anything into it - for now. Unless something I’ve missed comes out, I think calling this film a promotional for a gay children’s hero is unsubstantiated.
The one ‘sexuality’ issue that still makes me laugh is PETER PAN.
Not a guy, not a girl, not really any sex at all.
American Society is so funny. It’s the repression of ‘sex’ that causes much of the deviancy.
Parents don’t want to , or don’t know when to talk to their children about sex, which used to mean that we learned it from friends at school.
Nowadays, they learn it from their teachers, after school.
No woman wants to marry a loser. Not even a lesbian wants to marry a loser. I guarantee it.
Was “Cow Patty” gay?
So when Jerry Falwell said the purple Teletubby was gay, the media ridiculed him for looking for homosexuality in a kid’s show. But this counts as insightful analysis?
Yeah. Most of them are in the MSM.
More than that even, at the end, she gets the clan leaders to agree that a suitor has to win her heart before he should try to win her hand. She wasn't rejecting the suitors in and of themselves, she was rejecting the idea of being pushed into marriage before she was ready and to have no say in which suitor she should pick.
Merida is not some kind of lesbian icon; she far more resembles self-sufficient (and normal) conservative women.
Isn't AIDS defined as 'boring someone to death' ?
"OMG, I'm gay."
Or one of a 100 other movies.
I agree. Just because a heroine is not interested in being married off to someone she doesn’t like/love... and is athletic/”tom-boyish” doesn’t make her a lesbian. In fact, if people hold the definition of a lesbian as a female who is independent/strong/self reliant/athletic etc... than a whole lot of female FReepers would fit that definition.
What 'kind' of man is the 'right' man for a lesbian?
re: “Merida is not some kind of lesbian icon; she far more resembles self-sufficient (and normal) conservative women.”
I don’t see why it would.
Laz you want to handle this one?
Were they fictional cartoon characters?
Have a look at the absolute war the homo ‘community’ has created over the My Little Pony cartoon...specifically the character “Rainbow Dash’.
If there is a freeper grad student wishing to get a Nobel in psychiatry, do a thesis on that mess. It would blow your mind.
would it matter if it was real life... No!!!
As a youngster I was such a tomboy. I had brothers, so most of my play time was male oriented. Climbing trees, racing, playing ball, riding bikes, mowing the yard, riding the horses. I hated “house” work. Still do, but I sure love men.
The world would probably be a lot better off, if everyone just took things for what they are, instead of reading their stuff into everything.
Or, as another poster quoted a famous psychotherapist in another thread today, sometimes a cigar is just a cigar. I also concur with the sentiment of others here about how irritating it is that such a small slice of the population seems to be driving the discussion because of their choice on how they use their genitalia. Quite tiresome...
I grew up with three brothers and played rough just like you did. I love sports and fish every Summer. I really don’t like the “twisting” of what defines a “straight” female. For example, I wish I was more adventurous... I want to be Salamander when I grow up. LOL!!
Three times Ive seen professed lesbians willing to go straight for the right man.
What ‘kind’ of man is the ‘right’ man for a lesbian?
Granted, given Pixar's track record, it would have been one beautifully produced cliche, but a cliche nonetheless.
Assuming through stereotypes that she's a lesbian is just as cliche these days.
For the record, Falwell made the statement in 1999 and was over two years late to that party.
By December 24, 1997, CNN aired the following:
"The Teletubbies also have a following among the gay community. Tinky Winky, who carts around a red handbag but speaks with a male voice, has become something of a gay icon."
The Village Voice had already praised Teletubbies for having a gay character. There were other media notes about TInky Winky. When Falwell entered the mix, a couple of years late, it was as if nobody had ever brought up the subject before.
This is ridiculous! I’ll take a Disney tomboy over an author like this any day!
I’m looking for a new New Jersey. And I’m an Internet guy @theatlantic.
I saw the movie with my wife and kids this weekend and did not leave the movie with this impression at all. Weird how they have to try and ruin the movie. Go see it. It is a great movie and you will enjoy it.
The key to “being Salamander” is NEVER growing up.
[if you ‘grow up’, you grow old and you die]
Do not go gently into that dark night...go out redlining and screaming the whole way.
Haven’t seen the movie yet but Merida is alright by me.
[substitute a .22 for a crossbow and she may as well be me]
Stupidest thing I ever did was break my vow to never get married.
Hi back at ya, PA neighbor. Thanks for your service. I can say that I love men, and I even say it to their face. I say it all the time and get away with it because I’m an old lady. There is great freedom in growing old. You are allowed to say whatever you want. I tell handsome men that they are handsome and that if I was younger they would be in trouble. Everybody likes to be complimented and made to feel important. I am most disappointed in the women of today. they are a whiny bunch. Mostly empty headed (speaking of liberals of course).
You and me both mom. That girl is something. She put the idea of a Trik in my head and I haven't been able to shake the idea. My hubby thinks I've lost my mind because I keep wishing for one. I can see where a motorcycle would be a problem for me at my age, but a trik would be great. I'm not giving up the dream of having one. Just waiting for that inheritance that never comes. I'm an adventurous soul.