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Stop the Navy!
Natural Resources defense Council ^ | 6/26/12 | Beinecke

Posted on 06/26/2012 12:11:54 PM PDT by pabianice

Dear

Speak up for whales ... before they are silenced forever!

The Navy estimates that its five-year plan for training with sonar and explosives will harass, injure or kill marine mammals more than 33 million times! Urge the Navy to put safeguards in place before unleashing this deadly barrage.

The Navy is moving full speed ahead with plans for sonar and explosives training that threaten to deafen, injure -- and even kill -- countless whales, dolphins and other marine mammals.

Starting in 2014, the Navy will harass, injure, or kill marine mammals more than 33 million times in both the Atlantic and Pacific Oceans during five years of testing and training with sonar and explosives. Those alarming numbers come from the Navy itself!

They include more than five million instances of temporary hearing loss, 16,000 instances of permanent hearing loss, almost 9,000 lung injuries, and more than 1,800 deaths.

Please send a message right away, telling the Navy that inflicting such far-reaching harm on marine mammals is simply unacceptable.

The sheer scope of the Navy’s proposed training and testing activities is staggering, potentially assaulting entire populations of marine wildlife off the East Coast, Southern California, Hawaii and the Gulf states.

Navy ships will flood millions of square miles of ocean with high-intensity sonar, which is known to cause disorientation, hearing loss, stranding and death in whales. In addition, the Navy will be detonating high-powered explosives with the potential to fatally injure the lungs and other organs of marine mammals.

The waters around Hawaii and Southern California -- including critical habitat for endangered blue and humpback whales -- would be among the hardest hit. The Navy predicts that more than 1,000 marine mammals would be killed in this area alone.

And the threat to even one North Atlantic right whale may be one too many, as fewer than 400 of these survivors now hover on the brink of extinction.

The Navy should and must take common sense precautions -- like keeping training out of key whale habitat -- before launching this sonic assault. Such precautions will NOT compromise the nation’s military readiness.

Send a message right now, urging the Navy to enact tough safeguards for marine mammals before it conducts the next five years of training exercises.

Thank you for coming to the defense of whales!

Sincerely,

Frances Beinecke President Natural Resources Defense Council


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US Navy Struggles to Recapture, Keep ASW Proficiency

In the past several years the US Navy has reacquired an urgency about anti-submarine warfare. A poor step-child of the Navy since the fall of the USSR (along with mine-hunting), ASW is once again being recognized as a critical capability.

Of the more than 10,000 hours flown by Navy P-3Cs in the Persian Gulf, none of this time involved ASW. Rather, the missions involved supporting ground troops in Iraq and performing maritime interception operations as part of the coalition's stopping illegal smuggling of oil. While meeting the current needs of the service after essentially abandoning ASW after the collapse of the USSR, the world’s navies – the US Navy in the forefront -- find themselves ill-equipped to counter the explosive growth in the Third World fleet of stealthy, fourth generation diesel-electric subs like the U-212/214-class and the Scorpene-class. Such current technology subs can stay submerged for days without need for snorkeling. Equipped with Air Independent Propulsion closed-oxygen diesel drives that burn ethanol and liquid oxygen to make steam to drive a turbo-electric generator, the design permits retrofitting into existing submarines by adding an extra hull section. Typical cost for a new submarine powered by AIP is $250 million. These warships are openly for sale to almost anyone with a big enough checking account (except Taiwan, but that’s another story). For the budget-conscious – or someone simply in a hurry to raise hell with an allied navy -- a Russian P-130 or Piranha-T Small-class submarine may be purchased for a fraction of the cost of a Scorpene. In the past several years, both US and allied forces have been dismayed to have their ships “sunk” (including an aircraft carrier) by small but new diesel-electric submarines such as Sweden’s “Gotland” playing the enemy in exercises.

Recognizing this large hole in national defense, the US Navy in 2004 stood up the Fleet ASW Command and allocated more money to oversee ASW training. In addition to a new generation of active sonobouys, the Navy is working on such advanced technologies as floating sensor grids and other networked, distributed systems that operate without a vessel or aircraft nearby. The P-8A aircraft, to replace the P-3C (and perhaps the EP-3E as well) has been in development for several years, although its eventual production in sufficient numbers to do the job remains in serious doubt.

In late 2005, the Navy released additional information regarding current and foreseeable multiple missions with a smaller, more disperse maritime patrol and reconnaissance force – today’s P-3Cs and the promised P-8A replacement. The Navy’s fleet of operational P-3Cs has decreased from a listed 227 in 2003 to just 150 by mid- 2005, with 54 of these grounded for serious maintenance or re-winging (the P-3 was designed for a service life of 20,000 hours; many are now pushing 30,000 hours and are 40 years old, flogging through the harsh, unforgiving environment of salt water spray and constant low-level flight). The P-8A isn’t scheduled to hit the fleet starting in 2013 and replacing the last P-3C in 2019. Whether the Navy buys the P-8 as the replacement for the EP-3E is unknown. The Army recently rejected the ERJ-145 planned replacement for the Aerial Common Sensor Aircraft. The 145 was to have served both the Army and the Navy.

The critical shortage of P-3Cs has resulted in an almost total cessation of training when a squadron returns home from deployment as most of its aircraft are quickly cycled back to the fleet for overseas operations. In 1991 the Navy had 25 active and 13 reserve VP squadrons, each with nine airplanes. Today it has 12 active operational and six reserve squadrons, with all reserve squadrons to have been decommissioned by 2007. There are simply no aircraft to spare for the reserves any longer. Today, the Navy is down to just three deployment sites with each squadron having just eight airplanes each, a total of 24 planes. With the P-8 still just a drawing, the future of US Navy patrol aviation is in serious doubt at a time when the threat from Middle Eastern diesel-electric subs is ever more intense. The Navy’s decommissioning of its S-3B squadrons leaves the fleet even more vulnerable to this threat. Further, the P-8 is a big airplane unsuitable for the low-level (i.e. 200 feet over the water) active prosecution tactics used by the P-3 with such sensors as MAD. Instead, the Navy is planning to go with such untested upgrades as a new generation of extended echo range (EER) active (pinger) sonobouys, each equipped with GPS so as to have a constantly updated tactical plot.

While -- according to the Navy’s ASW Command/Fleet Replacement Patrol Squadron THIRTY -- ASW is still the primary mission focus for P-3s, annual ASW training done at the squadron level is approximately one-third of that conducted twenty years ago.

As the Navy plans for a fleet of perhaps 265 warships (down from 586 in 1988 and the smallest Navy since 1912), it states that the P-8A is fully funded through fleet introduction planned for 2012-2013. Full funding for replacement of the P-3C is yet to occur and not a sure thing, especially as the War on Terrorism is likely to continue into the foreseeable future. The Navy admits that even today’s 12 active VP squadrons are “likely to decrease” in number. This reporter estimates a total of four active P-8 squadrons plus a fifth fleet replacement squadron. Each active squadron (there will be no reserve VP squadrons) is likely to have eight aircraft. With another twelve or so for the FRS, we are likely to see, at best, fifty P-8 aircraft trying to do the job of over 200 P-3Cs. Look for UAVs to assume an ever greater portion of military aviation. While the outlook for success under this plan is clouded, the danger posed by enemy submarines is sharply defined.

http://navlog.org

In fleet exercises several years ago, the Swedish diesel-electric submarine "Gotland" gave the US Navy a run for its money by "sinking" a US aircraft carrier. The navy Times recently ran a story in which the navy admitted a desperate need for much upped ASW training. Right on sched, the Leftists are shrieking that such training will harm sea life.


1 posted on 06/26/2012 12:12:00 PM PDT by pabianice
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To: pabianice

will your crusade stop the murder of millions of unborn children ???


2 posted on 06/26/2012 12:23:04 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana (Why should I vote for Bishop Romney when he hates me because I am a Christian)
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To: pabianice
Whales: turncoat mammals most closely related to cows who abandoned land and returned to the sea, polluting it with their methane emissions. Nuke them from orbit. It's the only way to be sure.
3 posted on 06/26/2012 12:25:26 PM PDT by tumblindice (Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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To: pabianice
Fly Navy!

And give all enviro-wackos the finger.

- Mike
USN, P-3 Aircrew, WESTPAC '76-'84

4 posted on 06/26/2012 12:25:43 PM PDT by grobdriver (Proud Member, Party of NO! Nobama, No Way, No How!)
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To: pabianice
Yeah...by golly.....stop the f'n Navy from keeping the bad guys away from our shores!...right f'n now! It is known that they are cold blooded whale killers, and there will not be a whale in sight in a little while.

...and worse, the "Whale Wars" nuts won't have any whales to save....

...grrrrrrr, ignorant bastards...

5 posted on 06/26/2012 12:28:34 PM PDT by B.O. Plenty (Elections have consequences....)
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To: pabianice
We are repeatedly assured that these are somewhat sentinent creatures, or at the very least, well anthropomorphized ones.

If they are so smart, why don't they just leave the AO when it gets noisy?

It isn't as if a potential threat to our country is going to be any more sympathetic, and probably less so.

6 posted on 06/26/2012 12:33:22 PM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing)
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To: pabianice
Pi$$ on Francis and all of her exaggerations, May she be dipped in S**t and rolled in cracker crumbs.
7 posted on 06/26/2012 12:38:22 PM PDT by mongo141 (Revolution ver. 2.0, just a matter of when, not a matter of if!)
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To: pabianice
The NRDC is one of the leading organizations of the enviro-nazi groups, they stick their fingers into most every eco-whackjob movement and they're well financed.
8 posted on 06/26/2012 12:41:42 PM PDT by jazusamo ("Intellect is not wisdom" -- Thomas Sowell)
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To: pabianice

Keep up the good fight, I appreciate your having posted this, this is the kind of environment protection i’m for, sadly, environazis distract us from such issues and do more harm than good to the environment they seek to protect! The Navy should build a big enough pool to carry out there testing and fill it with politicians, RINOS, democrats, lobbyists, and unions!


9 posted on 06/26/2012 12:47:52 PM PDT by IslamE (epiphany)
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To: pabianice

Whatever you do, don’t google nuclear tests atoll!


10 posted on 06/26/2012 12:49:27 PM PDT by loboinok (Gun control is hitting what you aim at!)
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To: pabianice
The Navy estimates that its five-year plan for training with sonar and explosives will harass, injure or kill marine mammals more than 33 million times! Urge the Navy to put safeguards in place before unleashing this deadly barrage.

I love the way the Left plays with statistics. 33 million injuries. That's anything ranging from an ear ache to a death in any marine animal from a plankton to a Blue Whale -- five year total as well.

As such the statistic is meaningless without an actual breakdown. Now if you tell me that a few dozen marine mammals may actually die each year -- and I'm betting that's all it is -- I'd say the price is worth it. We're talking national defense here.

11 posted on 06/26/2012 12:54:06 PM PDT by Tallguy (It's all 'Fun and Games' until somebody loses an eye!)
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To: pabianice

But of course! It is FAR more important to protect the whales. That is MUCH more important as opposed to winning a war and stuff.

Geeze!


12 posted on 06/26/2012 12:54:34 PM PDT by Wildbill22
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To: Tallguy

“One death is a tragedy. One million deaths is a statistic.”

-Joseph Stalin


13 posted on 06/26/2012 12:59:46 PM PDT by henkster (Why should I care? Why should I care?)
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To: pabianice

how about stopping military faggotry instead?


14 posted on 06/26/2012 1:01:52 PM PDT by bigbob
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To: pabianice
It has nothing to do with sonar or ASW training.

Recently I saw a program on Animal Planet where it was the Navy's attempt to kill off the mermaids. Not sonar testing

I kid you not.

15 posted on 06/26/2012 1:04:34 PM PDT by Drill Thrawl (Another day. Another small provocation. Another step closer.)
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To: tumblindice

16 posted on 06/26/2012 1:19:02 PM PDT by Rio (Tempis fugit.)
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To: pabianice

I once read somewhere that man has dominion over the animals.


17 posted on 06/26/2012 1:32:30 PM PDT by elkfersupper ( Member of the Original Defiant Class)
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