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What is Being Taxed in Obamacare?!
Vanity | 6/28/2012 | pgyanke

Posted on 06/28/2012 12:23:17 PM PDT by pgyanke

From Dictionary.com...

tax   [taks] noun
1. a sum of money demanded by a government for its support or for specific facilities or services, levied upon incomes, property, sales, etc.

We have property taxes on property, sales taxes on commerce, income taxes on income, inheritance taxes on wealth transfer... essentially, we have taxes on things of value, commerce, or the transfer of wealth.

Until now.

What is being taxed in Obamacare? Citizenship.


TOPICS: Health/Medicine; Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: citizenship; obamacare; tax
Just sick today.
1 posted on 06/28/2012 12:23:25 PM PDT by pgyanke
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To: pgyanke

What’s being taxed, I guess, is existence as an adult citizen without insurance coverage.


2 posted on 06/28/2012 12:25:53 PM PDT by Tublecane
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To: Tublecane
Here's another thing to contemplate with this crap sandwich that the USSC just stuck us with...

You think those 800k that Obambi just granted asylum are more or less enthusiastic to 'become' citizens?

Why in the hell would they want to become a citizen, since being 'off the grid' will get them free health care with no penalties?

3 posted on 06/28/2012 12:28:40 PM PDT by Fedupwithit ("Live Free or Die: Death is not the worst of evils" - Gen. John Stark)
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To: pgyanke
Just sick today.

At least you now have free health care. :(

4 posted on 06/28/2012 12:31:19 PM PDT by frogjerk (OBAMA NOV 2012 = HORSEMEAT)
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To: Fedupwithit

What about illegals….


5 posted on 06/28/2012 12:33:02 PM PDT by notaliberal
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To: pgyanke

Non-participation is being taxed, I suppose.

As I read on Hot Air earlier, doesn’t this mean that other forms of private-industry non-participation can be taxed?

I haven’t bought a new car in years, so they could tax that, too, I suppose.

*Looks at watch.* Haven’t had an abortion in a while either. Guess I owe Planned Parenthood $400 or so.

*Thumbs through papers.* Haven’t taken out a loan in years... guess I owe the banks, too.


6 posted on 06/28/2012 12:33:11 PM PDT by Feline_AIDS (A gun in hand is better than a cop on the phone.)
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To: pgyanke

It’s you being alive and an American that’s being taxed. A “life tax”. To complement our confiscatory, communist death tax.

OBAMACARE == LIFE TAX


7 posted on 06/28/2012 12:38:15 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I can neither confirm or deny that; even if I could, I couldn't - it's classified.)
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To: pgyanke

The air you breathe.


8 posted on 06/28/2012 12:45:49 PM PDT by exnavy (The time is upon us, fish or cut bait, may God guide your heart.)
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To: notaliberal; pgyanke

illegals?

just like now... they’ll use the emergency rooms and not pay a dime

meanwhile, a small handful will be forced to pay for it, whether or not they use health services

as for how much? health services cost $2.3 trillion in 2009... before they were declared ‘free’. to pay for this, the fedgov would need to bring in at least $2 trillion annually.

problem is... we bring in a total of $2 trillion now. this implies a 100% tax on those paying... or the 21% of the population that is the top 50% of earners... which are paying for everything now

and I disagree... citizenship is not being taxed... success while being a citizen is.


9 posted on 06/28/2012 12:49:11 PM PDT by sten (fighting tyranny never goes out of style)
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To: notaliberal
Hell, the illegals get free care now...my originnal post was more for the 800,000 'children' that are allowed to stay.

You think their parents are running to the closest gov't office looking to get onto the rolls?

10 posted on 06/28/2012 12:55:27 PM PDT by Fedupwithit ("Live Free or Die: Death is not the worst of evils" - Gen. John Stark)
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To: pgyanke
What is Being Taxed in Obamacare?!

Nothing, at least as you and I understand it.

You are either MANDATED to have health insurance or you pay a PENALTY if you do not.

Neither is a tax.

But instead the word 'tax' into the Supreme Court verbal transmogrification machine, and suddenly mandate/penalty is a tax.

It no longer has to walk like a duck and sound like a duck to be a duck. It can be a turkey or a penguin and still be called a duck by the time SCOTUS gets done with things.

11 posted on 06/28/2012 12:57:11 PM PDT by dirtboy
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To: frogjerk
"At least you now have free health care."

Yup! Everyone gets health care insurance, but that doesn't guarantee that they will have a doctor. There is a shortage of doctors now.

12 posted on 06/28/2012 12:58:33 PM PDT by Spunky
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To: pgyanke

13 posted on 06/28/2012 12:59:22 PM PDT by timestax (Why not drug tests for the President AND all White Hut staff ? ? ?)
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To: Spunky

Yes, there is a difference between universal coverage and universal care. A big difference.


14 posted on 06/28/2012 1:00:11 PM PDT by kevao
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To: pgyanke
Obamacare gives the taxes to the insurance companies and enforcement comes through the IRS. I think it is a gift calling it a tax so the house can defund it like the democrats lost Vietnam by defending the war. If they ruled most other problems they would send it back to the senate. I think it is a gift.
15 posted on 06/28/2012 1:06:43 PM PDT by mountainlion (I am voting for Sarah after getting screwed again by the DC Thugs.)
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To: Fedupwithit

I believe there is specific reference in 0bamacare that illegals are exempt from having to buy health insurance. So they neither have to get insurance nor pay the “tax” that will be due for not buying it, and they will continue to receive free healthcare. What a deal for them!!


16 posted on 06/28/2012 1:08:02 PM PDT by NEMDF
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To: dirtboy

corruption, pure and simple


17 posted on 06/28/2012 1:12:34 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: pgyanke

breathing is being taxed.


18 posted on 06/28/2012 1:14:30 PM PDT by BereanBrain
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To: BereanBrain

Let me tell you how it will be,
There’s one for you, nineteen for me,
‘Cause I’m the Taxman,
Yeah, I’m the Taxman.
Should five per cent appear too small,
Be thankful I don’t take it all.
‘Cause I’m the Taxman,
Yeah, I’m the Taxman.

(If you drive a car ), I’ll tax the street,
(If you try to sit ), I’ll tax your seat,
(If you get too cold ), I’ll tax the heat,
(If you take a walk ), I’ll tax your feet.
Taxman.

‘Cause I’m the Taxman,
Yeah, I’m the Taxman.
Don’t ask me what I want it for
(Haha! Mister Wilson!)
If you don’t want to pay some more
(Haha! Mister Heath!),
‘Cause I’m the Taxman,
Yeah, I’m the Taxman.

Now my advice for those who die, (Taxman!)
Declare the pennies on your eyes, (Taxman!)
‘Cause I’m the Taxman,
Yeah, I’m the Taxman.
And you’re working for no-one but me,
(Taxman).


19 posted on 06/28/2012 1:18:11 PM PDT by dblshot (Insanity: electing the same people over and over and expecting different results.)
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To: pgyanke
What is Being Taxed in Obamacare?!

The decision of someone without health insurance to not buy health insurance. And that's clearly a penalty, or a fine.

Which is ridiculous and makes Roberts look like nothing more than one more political hack in a black robe who made up a rationale to arrive at the conclusion he desired.

20 posted on 06/28/2012 1:28:11 PM PDT by Will88
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To: pgyanke
Just wait until the cost of everything you need skyrockets because of this.

Of course the idiots who think Obamacare is good for them are easy to lead around by the nose. If they complain about the skyrocketing costs, their favorite lowlife congresscritter or prez-uh-dent will demagogue private business, blame them for the cost increases, and their sheeple will buy it as usual.

21 posted on 06/28/2012 4:35:29 PM PDT by FlyVet
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I am sitting here, blogging. I can be taxed for sitting. Maybe for thinking. Maybe for moving my fingers. Maybe for forming words.

I would prefer it if I could breathe fire.


22 posted on 06/28/2012 4:38:37 PM PDT by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spiritui Sancto.)
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To: frogjerk

Actually, it’s a Democrat illegal minority union member...or fed/state/Congressional employee....or Muslim/Amish that has free health care.

Paid for by me. Little old me.

Now, an illegal may get a kidney, or a liver, ahead of me.

Maybe I should become a Communist. /ridicule.

Now, I am FORCED to pay for abortions by the minute and babies born alive but allowed to die alone on some table somewhere or in a trash bin. That is happening anyway, though.

I believe this nation shall go through a momentous drought and hardship as a result of this alone. The time for an ollie-ollie-in-free card from God’s retribution is over.


23 posted on 06/28/2012 4:45:05 PM PDT by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spiritui Sancto.)
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To: combat_boots

After reading your post, I realize you’ve put the entire day into succinct words.

Your final sentence gives me goosebumps as I have just read of the genetically modified children of New Jersey.

I fear we’ll get worse than we expect from our Lord, and we’ve got it coming.


24 posted on 06/28/2012 6:22:25 PM PDT by Mortrey (Impeach President Soros)
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