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Posted on 06/29/2012 5:44:33 AM PDT by tioga

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To: hobbes1
Because we haven't beat it to death yet...
121 posted on 06/29/2012 12:30:07 PM PDT by secret garden (Why procrastinate when you can perendinate?)
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To: secret garden

Nah, Travolta likes to wear the same beard.


122 posted on 06/29/2012 12:30:58 PM PDT by hobbes1 (Hobbes1TheOmniscient® "St.Sarah, the1Tru Conservative that REFUSES to unite us and Save America"you)
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To: SoothingDave
No, just food sponsored by a drug company, usually a nicely catered lunch for the staff.
In other news, my Volvo weather station read at 118 degrees just now, a new high. I am so grateful to have an inside job.
123 posted on 06/29/2012 12:33:39 PM PDT by secret garden (Why procrastinate when you can perendinate?)
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To: secret garden

And again, much like the rest of the hysterics, it isolates the argument to a Tax/Commerce argument, ignoring the very real fact that there still 23 major lawsuits winding their way back to SCOTUS.

Secondarily, One of the other little things that Roberts did, was ensure Catholics would spend every Sunday till November getting lectured on Religious Freedom.

Michigan,Wisconsin,PA,NJ all have decent Catholic populations. In NJ, they make up a fair amount of self described independents.

And there are 6 Catholics on SCOTUS, though I’m not saying Sotomayor would jump to the right, But Roberts,Alito,Scalia,Thomas,Kennedy...Four of whom were ready to strike the Bill down already, on less stringent ground.

That makes Roberts a swing vote with Street Cred, and...you could be looking at 7-2 or better when those suits get heard.


124 posted on 06/29/2012 12:37:48 PM PDT by hobbes1 (Hobbes1TheOmniscient® "St.Sarah, the1Tru Conservative that REFUSES to unite us and Save America"you)
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To: SoothingDave

He does need to outgrow the childish fixation with his # though.


125 posted on 06/29/2012 12:49:12 PM PDT by xsmommy
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To: secret garden

I LOVED prof Kerr’s line about the category of conservatives willing to declare it unconstitutional whether they know anything about constitutional law or not. WHOLE LOTTA THAT on FR. Curious to hear what the Gtown profs thoughts are.


126 posted on 06/29/2012 12:57:54 PM PDT by xsmommy
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To: hobbes1

I have absolutely no faith that the court would void the entire thing, no matter what.

Ginsburg did have some lines that indicated that she would overturn the HHS mandate.


127 posted on 06/29/2012 1:20:55 PM PDT by SoothingDave
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To: secret garden

We got to the Matt Smith Doctor Who last weekend. All of the UK floating through space on the back of a whale.

I do like Amelia Pond. I had her sussed out right away as not really being a cop.


128 posted on 06/29/2012 1:25:13 PM PDT by SoothingDave
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To: SoothingDave

They will, but on grounds that will damn Congress, and the Administration.

The Mandate was never the ‘heart’ of the bill. The Coverages DICTATED in the mandate were.

If Roberts moves back, and gets Sotomayor, and Ginsburg, thats 7-2.

And while the mandate may or may not have been severable (4 said no)...the COVERAGE dictated by the mandate, logically is not...

And that goes back to my point about Roberts pointing out that SCOTUS’ job was not to protect Voters from their consequences.

Act 2 of that is ‘It’s not SCOTUS job to protect Congress and the President from poorly written and considered legislation’

When the Coverage falls, the Bill falls.
(IF it’s not repealed first)


129 posted on 06/29/2012 1:59:39 PM PDT by hobbes1 (Hobbes1TheOmniscient® "St.Sarah, the1Tru Conservative that REFUSES to unite us and Save America"you)
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To: Texan5

A+++ Left the house for the afternoon and got a break from the lugubrious mood on the internet. Sometimes, I forget that most of America is clueless about politics. The clerk at the store who waited on me, along with the young waitress will be upset to know their meager earnings will now be taxed if they don’t fork over the bucks for health insurance. I didn’t bring it up.


130 posted on 06/29/2012 2:48:37 PM PDT by tioga ( ABO: Anybody. But. Obama. Coming in November, 2012.)
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To: xsmommy

I am not ready to forgive Roberts for this. He disgusts me.


131 posted on 06/29/2012 2:56:53 PM PDT by tioga ( ABO: Anybody. But. Obama. Coming in November, 2012.)
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To: tioga

Roberts did a brilliant thing.

Obama knows it. You should too....

I think this was not a too clever by half thing.

This was spite pure and simple.

The majority of the court would have struck down the law under the Commerce Clause, an argument the Won brought up, during Roberts confirmation.

And instead of giving the lefty base a repeat of Bush v. Gore, where the public ignores the underlying facts and accepts the NYT version of the argument, Roberts, switched sides, wrote the majority opinion, allowing no loopholes for partisanship...

And in doing so, accomplished the following...

Gave Romney a uniting message, and its attendant fundraising.

Killed the Obama ‘partisan SCOTUS’ argument.

Hung the Tax and spend liberal label on Obama.(and Democrats in general...)

(FCOL, McCaskill, Manchin and a third are BACKING AWAY from the bill)

Left Catholics energized over THE REMAINING 23+ Federal Lawsuits against the law, over, Not the Mandate, (which had been found severable ala the Medicare provisions)

And allowing the lawsuits against the MANDATED COVERAGE to stand and work their way to SCOTUS.

All the while every pastor on Sunday, and every like minded small employer, is exhorting against the reelection of ANY Democrat in November.

Obama made this a Political Event, and got TKO’d in the first.

He’s only standing long enough to get to the second round (November)

Even if he wins in November he loses.(But he won’t)

Roberts, (IMHO) went out of his way to very totally stack the deck against him in November, and Beyond.

There is no way that 6 Catholics and three Jewish members of the court uphold the underlying coverage mandated by the Bill over First Amendment grounds.

Roberts is already the swing vote. At least two others sensing the inevitable (like in B v. G) will agree on general if not Fatal grounds.

Medicare was found to be severable...the Majority can now safely rule that the mandated COVERAGES, are not.

And the court itself, is protected...HHS, could have backed down in which case Roberts, probably would have gone the other way...but none of those five are short sighted...there
is no way this decision happens in a vaccuum with those pending attacks on the law, to think otherwise, is to demean the 4 we agree with.


132 posted on 06/29/2012 3:29:40 PM PDT by hobbes1 (Hobbes1TheOmniscient® "St.Sarah, the1Tru Conservative that REFUSES to unite us and Save America"you)
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To: secret garden

Another update. As we were leaving the library, the Volvo weather station registered a steamy 122 DE-GREES!!!


133 posted on 06/29/2012 3:49:58 PM PDT by secret garden (Why procrastinate when you can perendinate?)
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To: tioga
Something for you.
134 posted on 06/29/2012 3:51:08 PM PDT by secret garden (Why procrastinate when you can perendinate?)
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To: hobbes1

From your keyboard to the file clerk’s stack.


135 posted on 06/29/2012 4:02:48 PM PDT by secret garden (Why procrastinate when you can perendinate?)
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To: SoothingDave

You’ll love Rory too. He’s a good character. Unlike River Song, who is just not likeable. Those ‘Hello Sweetie’s got very old, very fast.


136 posted on 06/29/2012 4:05:48 PM PDT by secret garden (Why procrastinate when you can perendinate?)
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To: SoothingDave

I thought young Amelia bore a striking resemblance to Amy(same mouth) and did some reading and found out she was played by Amy’s real life niece.


137 posted on 06/29/2012 4:07:47 PM PDT by secret garden (Why procrastinate when you can perendinate?)
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To: secret garden

I’ve got a genetic disposition to like redheads, so there’s that.

River Song was in the episode in the library, which was really good storytelling


138 posted on 06/29/2012 4:37:20 PM PDT by SoothingDave
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To: Texan5

Oh I hadn’t heard that yet.....excellent!


139 posted on 06/29/2012 5:21:43 PM PDT by WhyisaTexasgirlinPA (ABO)
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To: secret garden

I hope your spouse can make up the difference with another lunch with a client. Anyone who doesn’t see that that things are getting even worse is too clueless for words.

My contractor compadre called this morning to rant-the customer is not making a decision on that remodeling job until next week, at the earliest. That pushes the start date up to August, if at all now. We knew this was going to happen when the supremes ruled the way they did.

Now, I’m totally bummed out, and my comnpadre is taking out his frustration on a section of fence on his property that needs replacing......


140 posted on 06/30/2012 8:16:23 AM PDT by Texan5 ("You've got to saddle up your boys, you've got to draw a hard line"...)
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