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Joe Paterno Reportedly Played Major Role in Penn State Cover-Up
The Atlantic Wire ^ | 6/30/12 | Connor Simpson

Posted on 06/30/2012 9:25:17 AM PDT by gop4lyf

CNN have reportedly been informed of the contents of emails between top Penn State officials that allege a cover-up of a 2001 incident involving Jerry Sandusky, and the messages seem to implicate that it was Joe Paterno's idea to not report Sandusky

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TOPICS: Chit/Chat; Society; Sports
KEYWORDS: homosexualagenda; joepa; joepaterno; paterno; pedophilia; pedostate; pennstate; sandusky
I don't know if this is true or not. I saw it on Yahoo sports and thought that some here would be interested.
1 posted on 06/30/2012 9:25:20 AM PDT by gop4lyf
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To: gop4lyf

Bummer to see an icon go down in flames - assume personal loyalty trumped morality.


2 posted on 06/30/2012 9:29:40 AM PDT by nascarnation
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To: gop4lyf

“I would be more comfortable meeting with the person.. tell him the information we received... and tell him we are aware of the first situation.”

That reads to me as an admission by Curley that they did know about the 1998 incident.


3 posted on 06/30/2012 9:30:36 AM PDT by Boogieman
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To: gop4lyf

Penn State fans, not to worry: obama will issue an Executive Privilege order covering Paterno’s communications.


4 posted on 06/30/2012 9:30:36 AM PDT by freedumb2003 (Guns Walked -- People Died -- Holder Lied -- Obama Golfed (thanks, Secret Agent Man))
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To: gop4lyf

My opinion of MeQueary has improved somewhat after reading this article. He was probably too shocked to beat the crap out of Sandusky and did go to Paterno. It now appears that Paterno, Curly and the President of the school - a noted homosexual promoting individual - wanted to cover up Sandusky’s crimes.


5 posted on 06/30/2012 9:31:02 AM PDT by SeaHawkFan
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To: gop4lyf

I stand vindicated. Called that scumbag out when the scandal first broke. Those “Joe Pa” cultists need to find another idol to worship.


6 posted on 06/30/2012 9:32:05 AM PDT by KantianBurke (Where was the Tea Party when Dubya was spending like a drunken sailor?)
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To: gop4lyf

In Texas, the law is if a teacher knows of child abuse they must report it or they can be charged. Yes, different state and different laws.


7 posted on 06/30/2012 9:32:09 AM PDT by bgill
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To: gop4lyf

If this true I do not know how Penn State fans especially in Central PA where everything was tied to Pateron will do. Will the University remove his name from the library and the statues of Paterno leading his players onto the field?


8 posted on 06/30/2012 9:32:29 AM PDT by C19fan
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To: gop4lyf

Nothing went on that paterno didnt know about.There were way too many instances involving sandusky through the years to make anyone think that paterno didnt know exactly what was going on.They need to bulldoze the entire college into fields because the stain and the smell will never leave.


9 posted on 06/30/2012 9:34:06 AM PDT by HANG THE EXPENSE (Life's tough.It's tougher when you're stupid.)
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To: gop4lyf

I wonder what kind of impact this would have had on the Sandusky trial if it had come out earlier.


10 posted on 06/30/2012 9:37:53 AM PDT by gop4lyf (Socialism is the political dream of the unachiever, the excuse maker, and the lazy.)
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To: KantianBurke

I am with you on this one. I got tired of trying to point out that “Joe Pa” had to have been aware. Nothing went on at that school, especially within the sports program, that he didn’t know about. It doesn’t matter what good he did, he allowed his morality, ethics and character to hold a back seat to his reputation.


11 posted on 06/30/2012 9:37:59 AM PDT by mrsloungitude ( USMC Mom)
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To: gop4lyf
You mean people who play games their entire lives may not be heroes? Shocking! Next you'll tell me that people who play pretend on screen all their lives are not good role models.

If they were real heroes then all of the major sports organizations would have shut down after 9/11 and thousands of those athletes would have joined our special forces and their help along with that of millions of home based Americans would have truly won the War on Terror. Instead, we have an entire country of people who have forgotten the thousands of dead and tens of thousands of wounded and psychologically damaged. Most combat vets can't even find a damn job, because most hiring managers have absolutely no patriotism and no comprehension of the sacrifice of service.

12 posted on 06/30/2012 9:38:12 AM PDT by douginthearmy (Obamagebra: 1 job + 1 hope + 1 change = 0 jobs + 0 hope)
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To: gop4lyf
I believe Joe offed himself by intentionally overdosing on pain meds. He was in that mess up to his eyeballs. That's how he was able to hold on for so long, imho. He blackmailed the administration to allow him to keep coaching, imo.

Here's a discussion topic: Joe Paterno, Paul Bryant, and the doctrine of Papal Infallibility.

If the way you feel on Sunday depends on how your team played on Saturday, you have a problem.

13 posted on 06/30/2012 9:38:38 AM PDT by Crawdad
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To: Crawdad

This is another reason buildings/highways/bridges, etc. should not be named for nor statues made of people until a reasonable time after their deaths. Never while they aretill alive. It’s just vulgar.


14 posted on 06/30/2012 9:42:12 AM PDT by Crawdad
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To: bgill

“Yes, different state and different laws.”

The laws may vary from state to state, but the morally right thing to do does not.


15 posted on 06/30/2012 9:43:11 AM PDT by Boogieman
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To: gop4lyf


16 posted on 06/30/2012 9:44:50 AM PDT by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet - Mater tua caligas exercitus gerit ;-{)
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To: C19fan

They will keep putting their heads in the sand and deny the truth. They don’t, and didn’t, want to acknowledge the obvious from the very beginning. I am from Pennsylvania and have many friends who went to Penn State. Luckily for me, none of them have been in denial because they don’t idol worship. On the other hand, there were a few here on FR that wouldn’t listen to logic and reason when this story broke.


17 posted on 06/30/2012 9:44:58 AM PDT by mrsloungitude ( USMC Mom)
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To: nascarnation

If this is all true, did Sandusky go through with treatment? If not, it sounds as though the plan was to go to authorities.

This is the Catholic Church method of dealing with sex abuse. I wouldn’t be surprised if Paterno had talked it over with his priest.


18 posted on 06/30/2012 9:45:08 AM PDT by Eva
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To: SeaHawkFan

I’m surprised no one’s come out in defense of Sandusky by saying it was “natural” and he “could not help it” (although I’m sure many lefties are whispering it).


19 posted on 06/30/2012 9:45:46 AM PDT by Tea Party Terrorist (Fast & Furious: Proof the Government should not have access to guns)
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To: WPaCon

Read it & weep.


20 posted on 06/30/2012 9:46:16 AM PDT by KantianBurke (Where was the Tea Party when Dubya was spending like a drunken sailor?)
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To: mrsloungitude
I know people across the street that worship at the idol of joepa. He knew. But, penn state football was money. Now, were is that district attorney that is still missing?
21 posted on 06/30/2012 9:50:43 AM PDT by WakeUpAndVote
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To: C19fan

Anything short of Penn State University bulldozing its football stadium and all facilities dedicated to the football team should be unacceptable.


22 posted on 06/30/2012 9:51:23 AM PDT by Tea Party Terrorist (Fast & Furious: Proof the Government should not have access to guns)
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To: gop4lyf

The people at CNN are left-wing liars. So far, we don’t have the emails, but only a detailed description of what the say.

The decision to cover up was made between the athletic director and the President, AFTER Paterno passed on what he had been told to them. Maybe Paterno should have gone around his bosses when they decided on the cover up, but they were the guys who made that decision, not Paterno. Theirs was the primary responsibility for the coverup.

Of course left-wing CNN wants to shift the blame from a pro-gay-rights President to a Catholic icon. Somehow or other gay rights in academia have nothing to do with it.


23 posted on 06/30/2012 9:52:17 AM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: KantianBurke

Paterno is burning in hell right now.


24 posted on 06/30/2012 9:55:57 AM PDT by jimbo123
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To: mrsloungitude

Lou Holtz’s first commenton ESPN hinted that he believed Paterno knew. I guess ESPN then told him to shut up.


25 posted on 06/30/2012 10:00:45 AM PDT by Terry Mross ( To all my kin: Do not attempt to contact me as long as you love obama.)
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To: C19fan

>> Will the University remove his name from the library and the statues of Paterno leading his players onto the field?<<

I am not 100% sure but I think that is what they did with Pete Rose...


26 posted on 06/30/2012 10:03:28 AM PDT by freedumb2003 (Guns Walked -- People Died -- Holder Lied -- Obama Golfed (thanks, Secret Agent Man))
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To: HANG THE EXPENSE
They need to bulldoze the entire college into fields because the stain and the smell will never leave.

And then nuke the site from orbit; just to be sure.

27 posted on 06/30/2012 10:14:41 AM PDT by SVTCobra03 (You can never have enough friends, horsepower or ammunition.)
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To: KantianBurke

Good for you! Vindication is a great thing. I was flamed for suggesting Justice Roberts was a creep...and then his ruling came out...


28 posted on 06/30/2012 10:32:07 AM PDT by miss marmelstein
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To: freedumb2003
I think there is still a street in Cincinnati near the stadium named Pete Rose Way.

I remember last fall there was a football game on TV including Penn State (I forget who they were playing) and the announcers were beside themselves with excitement over the prospect that Joe Paterno could break the record for wins--which he did because Penn State won the game. The scandal broke not long after that.

Who knows how many boys were victims of Sandusky in addition to the ones who have come forward? A lot of them could have been spared if Sandusky had been prosecuted after the first case became known. But it was too important for Penn State for him to stay on as coach and Joe Paterno got his record number of wins.

29 posted on 06/30/2012 10:35:41 AM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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To: gop4lyf

Anybody that would have spoke out on this perverted homosexual. Would have been tagged a homophobe.


30 posted on 06/30/2012 10:39:34 AM PDT by DMG2FUN
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To: gop4lyf

So, it was about as bad as anyone would have guessed, and I continue to be astounded by the things some people put in emails, as if emails are the most private and secure of communications.


31 posted on 06/30/2012 10:40:43 AM PDT by Will88
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To: SeaHawkFan

From what we know of Penn State and Joe’s influence there, I strongly suspected he was one of Sandusky’s boy sex ring cons. He did not think the rape of boys was a big deal. He and others in leadership were most likely involved in passing around the boys on a deeper level.

Knowing how successful pedophile rings operate, they thrive with protection in power. The rich and powerful most likely enjoyed their access to Jerry’s boys. Sandusky might just be the fall guy for a lot of perverts. That is how it usually works.


32 posted on 06/30/2012 11:17:30 AM PDT by SaraJohnson
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To: SaraJohnson

Would not surprise me at all.


33 posted on 06/30/2012 11:20:24 AM PDT by SeaHawkFan
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To: Terry Mross

One of the reaons I do not really bother with ESPN except for highlights. When it comes to hard hitting stories ESPN goes ostrich and that is why Yahoo Sports and SI kick ESPNs arse when it comes to investigative journalism.


34 posted on 06/30/2012 11:35:17 AM PDT by C19fan
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To: gop4lyf

Such a revelation would have destroyed their football program. Better to let the lives of young boys be destroyed. After all, what’s the worst that could happen to them? They could become homosexuals, pedophiles, serial killers, psychologically disturbed fathers, husbands, or always think there is something wrong with them. It’s nothing compared to a football program.

If Joe Paterno did know what was going on, his estate should be sued for every cent it has.


35 posted on 06/30/2012 12:22:41 PM PDT by pallis
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To: gop4lyf

Maybe Penn State can borrow some money from the Catholic church.


36 posted on 06/30/2012 12:35:12 PM PDT by Fledermaus (Democrats are dangerous and evil. Republicans are just useless and useful idiots.)
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To: Cicero; C19fan
Paterno's involvement or input in the decision not to contact authorities becomes more clear in other articles quoting from CNN's emails or summarizing them. For example:

The report, focusing on a series of emails after McQueary's initial reports about the incident, suggested that shortly after receiving them, then Vice President for Finance and Business Affairs Gary Schultz developed a three-part plan to talk with Sandusky; contact the Second Mile — the youth charity Sandusky founded; and inform child welfare authorities.

But that plan was put on hold, the report stated, Feb. 27, when Schultz received an e-mailed reply from Athletic Director Tim Curley — apparently after a discussion with head football coach Joe Paterno — in which Curley suggests talking with Sandusky directly before alerting any outside authorities.

"After giving it more thought and talking it over with Joe yesterday, I am uncomfortable with what we agreed were the next steps," CNN quoted Curley as saying in an email. Curley indicated, according to the report, that he planned to talk with Sandusky and also contact The Second Mile, but not necessarily the child welfare office if Sandusky cooperated and got professional help."

That email is quoted in any number of news articles, including PennLive

37 posted on 06/30/2012 1:22:36 PM PDT by Scoutmaster (You knew the job was dangerous when you took it)
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To: SeaHawkFan
My opinion of MeQueary has improved somewhat after reading this article. He was probably too shocked to beat the crap out of Sandusky and did go to Paterno.

Some sources incorrectly report that Jonathan Dranov, M.D., who was called to the McQueary household 'that evening' testified that McQueary told him that he didn't see any sex.

That's not the case. Dranov asked McQueary three times if he saw any sex and said McQueary broke down each time and couldn't talk about what he saw. He'd start talking about the sounds and try to go forward from there, and then just break down. Dranov said he'd known McQueary for years, that he was a strong young man, and that he'd never seen him break down.

There may be confusion over exactly what Mike McQueary saw that night, but whatever it was, it sincerely affected him.

38 posted on 06/30/2012 2:39:31 PM PDT by Scoutmaster (You knew the job was dangerous when you took it)
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To: Verginius Rufus
Who knows how many boys were victims of Sandusky?

Well, within three days or so of the date the Grand Jury presentment was released, another dozen boys came forward. They weren't included in this trial.

Within ten days or so, 20 or so other boys had come forward.

For the record, the majority of male sexual abuse victims never come forward. Also for the record, FBI crime stats indicate that homosexual (they won't call it that - they'll call it men molesting boys) pedophiles greatly eclipse the average number of victims of men who molest girls. If Sandusky is average, he'll have over 175 victims. I get the feeling Sandusky was a high achiever.

39 posted on 06/30/2012 2:46:08 PM PDT by Scoutmaster (You knew the job was dangerous when you took it)
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To: gop4lyf
If that's that case, Paterno--if alive today--would be facing Federal charges for violating the Clery Act for not reporting a felony crime on a college campus and the Mann Act for contributing to the delinquency of a minor across state lines. And that would have landed Paterno in Federal prison for at least 4-5 years.

Question now is: how many other Penn State football program coaches/staffers and Penn State college administration officials may be facing the same Federal charges?

40 posted on 06/30/2012 4:26:53 PM PDT by RayChuang88 (FairTax: America's economic cure)
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To: Crawdad

Joe Pa once said that the Bear was as “crooked as a dog’s leg” in his younger days, and reserved a special animosity for Jackie Sherrill, the former head coach at Pitt, Texas A&M and Mississippi State who was accused of cheating at every stop in his career. In fact, Paterno told Sports Illustrated that he remained in coaching (in part) to protect the game from individuals like Jackie Sherrill.

True, Sherrill was a cheater, and Bear Bryant probably broke a few rules in his days, too. But one thing is certain, whatever their “crimes,” they never protected a serial child molester who served as one of their top assistants. Joe Pa had the chance to do the right thing on multiple occasions, and always based his choice on protecting his reputation and the institution called Penn State football.

I don’t know if Paterno jacked up his pain medication to end it all, but he was guilty of participating in a massive cover-up that allowed Sandusky to continue his crimes, and destroy the lives of countless young men. Accordingly, Paterno’s “reputation” should be tarnished, and the scandal that he helped hide should be a defining measure of his coaching career.


41 posted on 06/30/2012 5:27:05 PM PDT by ExNewsExSpook (uoted)
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To: ExNewsExSpook

Agree with all you wrote.


42 posted on 06/30/2012 6:24:29 PM PDT by Crawdad
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To: SaraJohnson
From what we know of Penn State and Joe’s influence there, I strongly suspected he was one of Sandusky’s boy sex ring cons. He did not think the rape of boys was a big deal. He and others in leadership were most likely involved in passing around the boys on a deeper level.

If the emails are accurate, the Penn State leadership didn't see those boys as rape victims, they saw them as "guests" and I'm not surprised they'd try to keep it under wraps.
43 posted on 07/01/2012 3:44:57 PM PDT by af_vet_rr
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To: af_vet_rr

Folks, there is zero evidence Paterno influence anyone to cover things up. None. There is nothing in the emails which says....Joe says we should do X.....nothing. Curley references talking with Joe when he is talking to his superiors. There is no evidence the conversation took place and Curley is on trial for perjury.

Paterno testified before the grand jury and the legal process says he testified truthfully. Not so for Curley and Shultz.

So many Freepers loath the very media you now lap up what they report as truth.


44 posted on 07/03/2012 5:05:04 PM PDT by PSUGOP
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To: PSUGOP
Folks, there is zero evidence Paterno influence anyone to cover things up. None. There is nothing in the emails which says....Joe says we should do X.....nothing. Curley references talking with Joe when he is talking to his superiors. There is no evidence the conversation took place and Curley is on trial for perjury.

After finding out a homosexual pedophile was using his facilities to rape children, did Joe Paterno go to the police?

If you know a homosexual pedophile is raping children, you don't talk it over with anybody, you go to the police and you put an end to the pedophile's preying on children. McQueary may have been 25 and young and foolish, but Paterno was a 75 year old man with grandchildren. No decent grandfather would sit idly by or "discuss" the situation with his bosses while a homosexual pedophile is preying on children.

The fact that you had a half a dozen men who were having discussions about what to do rather than picking up a phone and calling the police says everything I need to know about what happened there.
45 posted on 07/03/2012 6:32:04 PM PDT by af_vet_rr
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To: gop4lyf

McQuery was and is still a coward, nothing he will ever do will erase the fact that he refused to act. Paterno built a football program that became a cult. Paterno stayed way too long. To think that he did not know is a fool’s game. He knew what a POS Sandusky was, but he chose to look the other way.

There are no non-guilty parties in this mess, not the administration, not Paterno, not the current head coach, not the donors, not the local residents that refuse to admit that Paterno was indeed guilty.


46 posted on 07/04/2012 5:13:36 PM PDT by alarm rider (I took the pledge, I will never vote for another RINO, not now, not ever.)
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To: alarm rider

There are no non-guilty parties in this mess, not the administration, not Paterno, not the current head coach, not the donors, not the local residents that refuse to admit that Paterno was indeed guilty...

...not quite sure how the current head coach fits into the guilty verdict...he’s completely outside the PSU family...


47 posted on 07/06/2012 11:19:36 AM PDT by IrishBrigade
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