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Calls made to repatriate Beothuk remains
Yahoo Canada ^ | Saturday, June 23, 2012 | CBC

Posted on 06/30/2012 6:02:20 PM PDT by SunkenCiv

Aboriginal groups want bones of the extinct Beothuk people to be removed from museum vaults and brought back to Newfoundland.

A woman named Shanawdithit was the last known member of her people, with her 1829 death in St. John's marking the end of the Beothuk. Disease, persecution and the Beothuk's decision to withdraw from coastal communities have been cited as causes of wiping out the Beothuk.

The location of Shanawdithit's grave is not known, but the skulls of her aunt and uncle -- a chief -- languish in a museum in Edinburgh, Scotland.

The remains of at least 22 Beothuk are held in Canadian museum vaults...

For decades, the skeletons of a 6'6" Beothuk man and a child had been on full display at the Newfoundland Museum in St. John's. The remains, though, have long been packed away, as well as others.

Researchers have done some DNA and isotope testing, to confirm genetic connections to contemporary aboriginal people. Funding for that research, though, ran out a couple of years ago, and the project is at a standstill.

Misel Joe, chief of the Mi'kmaq reserve at Conne River in southern Newfoundland, not far from a former Beothuk excavation site, wants researchers to continue with their work, so that the remains can eventually be returned.

The Canadian Museum of Civilization has the remains of at least 10 Beothuk, although archaeology director David Morrison says repatriation is complicated because there are no known descendants of the Beothuk.

(Excerpt) Read more at ca.news.yahoo.com ...


TOPICS: History; Science; Travel
KEYWORDS: beothuk; canada; godsgravesglyphs; nagpra; pishposh
Misel Joe: 'It's just the right thing to do.'

Calls made to repatriate Beothuk remains

1 posted on 06/30/2012 6:02:34 PM PDT by SunkenCiv
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 GGG managers are SunkenCiv, StayAt HomeMother & Ernest_at_the_Beach
To all -- please ping me to other topics which are appropriate for the GGG list.


2 posted on 06/30/2012 6:09:39 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: SunkenCiv

A 6’6” indian?


3 posted on 06/30/2012 6:42:55 PM PDT by VeniVidiVici (Congrats to Ted Kennedy! He's been sober for two years now!!)
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To: SunkenCiv
If it is indeed Beothuk remains, give them over for burial.

Burying the dead is a work of mercy. I wouldn't want my bones to be ogled at in a glass case.

4 posted on 06/30/2012 6:59:07 PM PDT by Copenhagen Smile (Are you not entertained?!)
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To: fanfan

Forgot ya.


5 posted on 06/30/2012 7:03:39 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: Copenhagen Smile

My view on that is more like the Klingons’.


6 posted on 06/30/2012 7:04:04 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: VeniVidiVici

And couldn’t play basketball.


7 posted on 06/30/2012 7:04:24 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: VeniVidiVici

***A 6’6” indian?***

There was found in the Aztec NM ruins buried body of a very tall warrior. He was on display for years till the whiners got him removed. The last time I inquired about his whereabouts (1972), the ranger on duty said he was stored in the museum basement.


8 posted on 06/30/2012 7:27:59 PM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar (I LIKE ART! Click my name. See my web page.)
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To: Copenhagen Smile
I quite agree.
Too much of what passes for "Archeology" is nothing more than sanctioned grave robbing...IMO.
9 posted on 06/30/2012 7:29:09 PM PDT by Tainan (Cogito, ergo conservatus sum)
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To: SunkenCiv
The Micmacs were enemies of the Beothunk. The Beothunk were known to the English as ‘Red Indians’ due to their habit of decorating themselves with red ochre. The Beothunk were likely the first Indians encountered by first wave Viking explorers. Some Beothunk were taken into slavery by the English. In general, the Beothunk were wiped out by the second wave Europeans before they even established communication with one another. What little is known of their language is derived from two captive women who were asked to name objects in English households. The fact that they had never seen a tea cup, house cat, or chandelier wasn't taken into account and no written record was made of the endeavor. The Micmacs have a history of assimilating captured enemies so there is a possibility that a diluted Beothunk genome persists among them today. Fun Fact: The Micmacs have dual US/Canadian citizenship and travel freely between the two countries.
10 posted on 06/30/2012 7:52:38 PM PDT by davius (You can roll manure in powdered sugar but that don't make it a jelly doughnut.)
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To: davius

Beothunk = Beothuks


11 posted on 06/30/2012 7:55:06 PM PDT by davius (You can roll manure in powdered sugar but that don't make it a jelly doughnut.)
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To: davius
Micmacs or their tradition spelling Mi'kmaq are not native to Newfoundland, as I should know because I have been born and raised in central Newfoundland and married to a Mi'kmaq woman whose grandmother was 100% Mi'kmaq from Conne River. Mi'kmaq were brought to Newfounland from Nova Scotia to KILL beothuk indians. When fisherman in the fishing ports started to have axes, knives, etc taken and replaced with beothuck made tools or trinkets (beothuks believe they were just doing fair trade with the whites) told the owners (the merchants) of the stages they worked in of the stolen tools the merchants got the British government to bring in the Mi'kmaq.

Long story short the Mi'kmaq killed most of the Beothuks with the last of their tribe were killed or taken prisoner on Red Indian Lake. Graves are still to this day being found all along the Exploits river which runs next to my town.

And your fun fact might concern Nova Scotia Mi'kmaq but Newfoundland Mi'kmaq do not have dual citizenship.

12 posted on 06/30/2012 9:20:51 PM PDT by Thor1966
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To: Thor1966
Thanks! I knew about the Micmac involvement but I felt it might be a sensitive area in which to comment as all parties have denied culpability at times.

I never thought to ask where the Micmacs I've met hailed from in Canada.
13 posted on 06/30/2012 9:53:52 PM PDT by davius (You can roll manure in powdered sugar but that don't make it a jelly doughnut.)
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Letter From Newfoundland: Homing In On The Red Paint People


14 posted on 06/30/2012 10:06:38 PM PDT by blam
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To: VeniVidiVici

Natives, prior to the white man, were a very healthy people. It was written amongst the Europeans, who first met natives, that they were a very tall people.

6’6 should not be surprising.


15 posted on 06/30/2012 10:51:18 PM PDT by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults.)
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To: davius

“The Micmacs have dual US/Canadian citizenship and travel freely between the two countries.”

Huh. So, what you’re saying is that the Micmacs are spies? And, that as spies, they’re working with the Canadian government in Canada’s planned conquest of our more profitable tourist traps?


16 posted on 07/01/2012 2:54:40 AM PDT by Grimmy (equivocation is but the first step along the road to capitulation)
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To: SunkenCiv

Aboriginal groups = designated victim group = people who must be deferred to/obeyed regardless of facts or reality


17 posted on 07/01/2012 5:37:24 AM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: VeniVidiVici
A 6’6” indian?

They'll probably find that he has some Norwegian DNA in those bones...

18 posted on 07/01/2012 5:52:08 AM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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To: Jonty30
6’6 should not be surprising.

Thanks. I had not heard that. I had always assumed given the origin of "Native Americans" that their stature would tend to be on the short side. Sort of why it would be weird to see a tall, native Mexican.

19 posted on 07/01/2012 6:15:41 AM PDT by VeniVidiVici (Congrats to Ted Kennedy! He's been sober for two years now!!)
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To: afraidfortherepublic
They'll probably find that he has some Norwegian DNA in those bones...

I was hoping they would report that if they found it in the DNA tests.

20 posted on 07/01/2012 6:18:02 AM PDT by VeniVidiVici (Congrats to Ted Kennedy! He's been sober for two years now!!)
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To: VeniVidiVici

The Karankawa Indians that used to inhabit the coastal areas of Texas were described as generally being between 6 and 7 feet tall. Really big guys, and the description of them was generally pretty fearsome.


21 posted on 07/01/2012 7:49:39 AM PDT by tarawa
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To: Grimmy
"Huh. So, what you’re saying is that the Micmacs are spies? And, that as spies, they’re working with the Canadian government in Canada’s planned conquest of our more profitable tourist traps?"

The notion that my posting would purposely release classified national security information is offensive. It's wrong and people, I think, need to have a better sense of how I approach this forum and how the people around me here approach this forum. We're dealing with issues that could touch on the safety and security of the American people, our families, or our military personnel, or our allies, and so we don't play with that, and it is a source of consistent frustration, not just for my account but for previous account holders when this stuff happens and we will continue to let everybody know in FReeperland or after they leave FReeperland that they have certain obligations that they should carry out but as I think has been indicated from these postings, whether or not the information they received is true, the writers of these postings have all stated unequivocally that they didn't come from this poster and that's not how we operate.
22 posted on 07/01/2012 9:28:30 AM PDT by davius (You can roll manure in powdered sugar but that don't make it a jelly doughnut.)
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To: VeniVidiVici
Lots of Indians are tall, especially those on the northern plains. I worked one summer in a town in Montana that had a lot of Crow, Lakota, Blackfoot and Assiniboine Indians in it....and there were plenty of 7-footers visible. I'd say 6'6" was the average height of adult male Indians in that area.
23 posted on 07/01/2012 10:28:52 AM PDT by Renfield (Turning apples into venison since 1999!)
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Thanks for the ping Civ.

Canada Ping


24 posted on 07/01/2012 11:03:29 AM PDT by fanfan (.http://www.ontariolandowners.ca/index.php?p=1_50_Your-Rights)
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I see no need to revere ancient bones. Let them serve a purpose by being in a museum. They should be on display not in a vault.

This Indian leader probably just wants to open his own museum.


25 posted on 07/01/2012 2:05:18 PM PDT by Impy (Don't call me red.)
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To: Impy

It’s about politics, like everything.


26 posted on 07/01/2012 8:17:51 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: fanfan

My pleasure.


27 posted on 07/01/2012 8:17:51 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: Jonty30

Given that there were few, if any communicable diseases, and that most Indians did not live in close proximity to one another in built up urban areas plus, given the lifestyle (nomadic hunters, most of them) increased the likelihood that weaker and lest robust individuals were weeded out (natural selection), yes they were healthier - but not for long.


28 posted on 07/02/2012 7:28:35 PM PDT by oldweesie
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