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Two men using metal detectors discover hoard of 50,000 Iron Age Celtic coins
IO9 ^ | July 3, 2012 | George Dvorsky

Posted on 07/03/2012 3:04:55 PM PDT by DogByte6RER

those metal detecTwo men using metal detectors discover hoard of 50,000 Iron Age Celtic coins

Two men using metal detectors discover hoard of 50000 Iron Age Celtic coins

Great news for all you hopeful amateur metal detectorists: Two men, who'd been searching the same field for nearly 30 years, have stumbled upon the largest hoard of Iron Age coins ever discovered in northern Europe. Inspired by legends that a local farmer once discovered silver coins on his land, the men unearthed the congealed chunk of 50,000 silver and gold coins after following a trail of pieces — that turned out not to be related to the cache.

Reg Mead and Richard Miles found the clump inside a massive block of soil in a field in Jersey, U.K., and it's thought that the coins were from Armorica, modern Brittany, and Normandy. The coins, which are in surprisingly good condition, are thought to have been buried at a time when Caesar was campaigning through Gaul. The owner likely buried the coins in an effort to hide them — never to be seen again, until now.

Writing in The Guardian, Maev Kennedy had this to add:

Most of the Jersey coins are still locked inside the soil block, which weighs three quarters of a ton and has been removed in one piece from the ground and taken to a safe place.

Excavation continues in the field to make sure the whole story has been revealed. The exact location has not been disclosed, and the island's environment minister, Rob Duhamel, said it would get official protection to keep it safe from looters. "It is a very exciting piece of news and perhaps harks back to our cultural heritage in terms of finance. It was found under a hedge so perhaps this is an early example of hedge fund trading."

De Jersey said the find was exceptional, "certainly the largest hoard of Iron Age coins ever found, not just in Jersey but the whole of the Celtic coin-using world … it is difficult to come out with a figure much below 50,000 coins given the volume of the block."

He believes there may also be Iron Age jewellery in the soil block, as in other Jersey hoards.

The coins, which are estimated to be worth about £10m ($15.8m), may go on display in the island's main museum should the land owners get their way. But exactly who owns the coins will likely take months to determine. Hmmm, so much for finder's keepers.


TOPICS: Chit/Chat; History; Local News; Outdoors; Reference; Science
KEYWORDS: ancienttreasure; archaelogy; bc; celts; epigraphyandlanguage; godsgravesglyphs; gold; ironage; jersey; silver; unitedkingdom
Looks like that investment in portable metal detectors has finally paid off for these guys ... congrats!
1 posted on 07/03/2012 3:05:08 PM PDT by DogByte6RER
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More coverage ...

“Iron Age coins discovered in Jersey after 30-year search”

http://www.guardian.co.uk/culture/2012/jun/26/iron-age-coins-discovered-jersey

“Iron Age coins worth £1m found by Jersey treasure hunters”

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/history/9358395/Iron-Age-coins-worth-1m-found-by-Jersey-treasure-hunters.html


2 posted on 07/03/2012 3:07:04 PM PDT by DogByte6RER ("Loose lips sink ships")
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To: DogByte6RER

I think that the government has “first dibs” on antiquities but must pay a fair market value for them. This seems to be subject to abuse but I haven’t read of complaints.


3 posted on 07/03/2012 3:15:08 PM PDT by The Antiyuppie ("When small men cast long shadows, then it is very late in the day.")
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To: DogByte6RER
The exact location has not been disclosed, and the island's environment minister, Rob Duhamel, said it would get official protection to keep it safe from looters.

No worries...the ‘Environment Minister’ has taken charge.
4 posted on 07/03/2012 3:30:56 PM PDT by bramps (Newt was the one, but Romney will do.)
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To: DogByte6RER

Never understood why the money “horders” of those ages didn’t just deposit their money into an insured Savings & Loan account...


5 posted on 07/03/2012 3:37:36 PM PDT by dewawi
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To: The Antiyuppie

It’s because a great deal of the value of these sorts of finds comes from their provenance, not from their melt.

The Government essentially provides the provenance for free by bringing in experts to validate the coins.

So it works out well for the finder and the land owner, who typically split the proceeds.


6 posted on 07/03/2012 3:39:55 PM PDT by agere_contra
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To: dewawi

LOL, nice one.


7 posted on 07/03/2012 3:41:46 PM PDT by agere_contra
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To: DogByte6RER

Pretty cool looking coins.


8 posted on 07/03/2012 3:46:19 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: SunkenCiv

FYI: Iron Age coins ping.


9 posted on 07/03/2012 3:53:21 PM PDT by Pollster1 (A boy becomes a man when a man is needed - John Steinbeck)
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To: DogByte6RER

Fun hobby,my best find was only a Buffalo Nickle,but ya never know,”Today’s The Day”:)


10 posted on 07/03/2012 3:55:16 PM PDT by mdittmar
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To: DogByte6RER

So, that’s where I left them.


11 posted on 07/03/2012 3:55:25 PM PDT by bgill
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To: DogByte6RER
I'm from New Jersey. I found a quarter today in a parking lot.

I'm in the process of contacting the Smithsonian.

12 posted on 07/03/2012 4:05:02 PM PDT by Focault's Pendulum (If Obama was any more thin skinned, he'd have a receptacle end: Dennis Miller)
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To: Focault's Pendulum
don't tell anyone you found a quarter. obama will want .24 for re-distribution
13 posted on 07/03/2012 4:18:36 PM PDT by mt tom
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To: DogByte6RER
Looks like that investment in portable metal detectors has finally paid off for these guys ... congrats!

Paid off for the government. Most of Europe's old relics now get thrown in a ditch or hedgerow when they are uncovered, because the government will confiscate them and then take your land in holding until archaeologists get around to looking at it (10-20 years).

14 posted on 07/03/2012 4:32:11 PM PDT by SampleMan (Feral Humans are the refuse of socialism.)
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To: SampleMan

“The coins, which are estimated to be worth about £10m ($15.8m), may go on display in the island’s main museum should the land owners get their way. But exactly who owns the coins will likely take months to determine. Hmmm, so much for finder’s keepers.”

Let’s revisit this find in say, 5 yrs, 10 yrs, and see just how much, if Any, of this $15.8 Million find the discoverers actually got out of it.

Remember the UK’s even more socialist than we are.


15 posted on 07/03/2012 4:51:17 PM PDT by To-Whose-Benefit? (It is Error alone which needs the support of Government. The Truth can stand by itself.)
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To: The Antiyuppie

I love treasure hunting. Here are the complaints leveled at the “hobbyist” in that part of the world, They are technically only allowed to get “targets” from disturbed soil and not allowed to dig into undisturbed soil. This raises many stories, speculations, and accusations.

So take this scenario. I get a signal and dig down 18” (which I think is a logical plow depth) but I do not locate the target. At this point I notice undisturbed soil, what do I do? The machine is giving me a sweet high silver signal. Well crap, I am so excited that I continue and thereby ruin some information that can be gleaned from the area. They are technically supposed to call the museum to continue into the undisturbed soil. I imagine that if you do that they are not super responsive. I imagine it may take several days just to go back and find out that you have a cache of horseshoes that were fooling your machine.

This is all happening on private property by the way. They have been operating under this treasure trove law since sometime in the 90’s I believe. There are vacation tours you can go on that take people to these fields.


16 posted on 07/03/2012 4:52:05 PM PDT by pennyfarmer (Even a RINO will chew its foot off when caught in a trap.)
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To: SampleMan
Paid off for the government. Most of Europe's old relics now get thrown in a ditch or hedgerow when they are uncovered, because the government will confiscate them and then take your land in holding until archaeologists get around to looking at it (10-20 years).

Proof please? This treasure trove law has been operating rather well from everything I have read. I have seen some kibitzing from the "professionals" but most of it is "professionals" being upset that the army of "hobbyists" are kicking their butts at great finds. There are strict penalties for someone failing to report a find or attempting to smuggle artifacts from the country.
17 posted on 07/03/2012 4:58:33 PM PDT by pennyfarmer (Even a RINO will chew its foot off when caught in a trap.)
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To: pennyfarmer

I metal detect, and I live in NEW JERSEY..the ass-in-9 laws state the 100 year rule...

SO, If I find a 1911 penny I must pause and call the archy’s to investigate since it is over 100 yrs old..(Yeah right LOL)


18 posted on 07/03/2012 5:24:11 PM PDT by OL Hickory (Jesus and the American soldier-1 died for your soul/1 died for your freedom)
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To: pennyfarmer

Proof that farmers are throwing stone statuettes into the hedgerows and smelting the silver and gold they find?

Look in the hedgerows, that is where the professionals look.

But that’s just a well known fact in the world’s history departments, the farmers don’t keep records. Can’t imagine why not.


19 posted on 07/03/2012 6:53:06 PM PDT by SampleMan (Feral Humans are the refuse of socialism.)
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To: SampleMan

The government does not operate like that over there. They do not shut down a farm for this sort of thing. They will shut down construction sites and yes there have been funny stories where the archies scrape a site and deposit that in a land fill. The hobbyist finds out where that land fill is and make fantastic discoveries that humiliate the professionals.


20 posted on 07/03/2012 8:31:34 PM PDT by pennyfarmer (Even a RINO will chew its foot off when caught in a trap.)
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To: OL Hickory

In the USA things are still somewhat a free for all. We are not necessarily under penalty of law to reveal anything found on private property.

In the UK they are bound by law to reveal any coin find over 15 in one hole, silver coins, and any gold items. I don’t know all the particulars. In the US private property is generally finders keepers unless you are trespassing, and technically government property is prohibited, although many city parks and beaches are free game for us.


21 posted on 07/03/2012 8:37:03 PM PDT by pennyfarmer (Even a RINO will chew its foot off when caught in a trap.)
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To: DogByte6RER

Aha! I KNEW they’d turn up eventually. I was wondering where I’d left those.

;-)


22 posted on 07/03/2012 9:50:53 PM PDT by Altariel ("Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!")
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To: Slings and Arrows; SunkenCiv

“It was found under a hedge so perhaps this is an early example of hedge fund trading.”


23 posted on 07/03/2012 10:49:52 PM PDT by Kevmo ( FRINAGOPWIASS: Free Republic Is Not A GOP Website. It's A Socon Site.)
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To: pennyfarmer
Didn't the liberal publisher of Rolling Stone, Jann Wenner have some workman dig up some gold on his property? Then he made sure to keep it all.

Should've given the guy SOMETHING.

24 posted on 07/03/2012 11:55:28 PM PDT by boop (I hate hippies and dopeheads. Just hate them. ...Ernest Borgnine)
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To: Kevmo; Pollster1

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Thanks, and LOL! Just adding to the catalog, not sending a general distribution.

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25 posted on 07/04/2012 5:36:23 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: DogByte6RER

I invested in a brand new Whites GMT Goldmaster this spring, its a 48khz specialty detector for gold detecting in Alaska. it wasn’t cheap, also picked up a Garret Pro pointer, using the two I can zero in searching for grain sized gold flakes and nuggets.

I have yet to use it but I have several places that look very promising. I joined some forums and was amazed at the amount of interest in metal detecting but for the most part in the lower 48 its searching more for coins and relics.

There was an idiotic attempt to make a reality TV series, its failed miserably fortunately.


26 posted on 07/04/2012 5:44:21 AM PDT by Eye of Unk (Is your state Obamacare free yet?)
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To: pennyfarmer

By “over there” do you mean the UK in particular or Europe in general?

I have no current experience, but I do know that in the 80’s in France and Italy, they were shutting down farms whenever anything was found.


27 posted on 07/04/2012 6:17:49 AM PDT by SampleMan (Feral Humans are the refuse of socialism.)
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To: OL Hickory

Thats nothing, in Australia you will get into deep dingo poodoo if you find a meteorite and keep it for yourself.

Or worse yet try to take it out of the territory.

My first rule which still stands when I got into MD, I post on several MD forums, I never tell of my discoveries, I actually just say I have not used my GMT. Too many people are way too keen on knowing locations, doesn’t matter if its gold, coins, civil war relics or underground caches.

Sadly thats the downturn of a depressed society, I have to carry concealed when I travel with my MD, its a very hot commodity for thieves.


28 posted on 07/04/2012 6:26:30 AM PDT by Eye of Unk (Is your state Obamacare free yet?)
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To: SampleMan

I believe its the UK. I don’t know which countries adopted the current treasure trove laws.

Some pressure to adopt this treasure trove law must have been happening in the 80’s. I think that they were having a real problem with people smuggling artifacts out of the country. People would hunt for treasures in the middle of the night (night-hawking). There were several instances of someone attempting to keep and smuggle Celtic gold coins.


29 posted on 07/04/2012 10:28:21 AM PDT by pennyfarmer (Even a RINO will chew its foot off when caught in a trap.)
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