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Mystical marks in virgin forest explained
Science Nordic (?!?) ^ | June 27, 2012 | Nina Kristiansen

Posted on 07/04/2012 6:07:40 AM PDT by SunkenCiv

During a recent mapping of the rare virgin forest in and around the Øvre Dividalen National Park in Troms, Norway, scientists noticed some scars reappearing on the trees. Many trees had some of their bark cut away on one side, leaving marks that were hard to explain.

Arve Elvebakk of the University of TromsØ (UiT) headed the study. He worked together with Andreas Kirchhefer, an expert in dating old trees by tree-ring analysis. He had already used ancient pines to chart weather and climate conditions.

Could the cuts in the bark have been left by settlers who started farms in the Dividalen valley in 1850? These dalesmen logged the pine forest, but the scars appeared to be from long before this.

Some suggested the cuts in bark could have been made by indigenous Sami herders as markers of reindeer migration routes and indicators of territorial grazing rights – or simply as signs marking footpaths.

A third proposal was that the cuts were made by Finnish immigrants who used the trees for bark bread. In hard times with failed crops and famine at home they could cross over to Norway in search of food and game.

"How wrong we were," says Elvebakk.

The mystery was solved when the scars in the bark were dated back to the 17th and 18th centuries. This was over a century before the dalesmen arrived. There were also too many of the scars for the footpaths or reindeer routes theory to be plausible.

"It turned out that this came from the ancient Sami practice of harvesting pine bark for food," explains Elvebakk. "In a laborious process the bark was converted into flour that could be used in cooking."

(Excerpt) Read more at sciencenordic.com ...


TOPICS: History; Science; Travel
KEYWORDS: finland; godsgravesglyphs; retsina; saami; sami
Patches of bark have been removed from older pines in the Øvre Dividalen National Park, but not in ways that would prevent the trees from continuing to grow. (Photo: UiT)

Mystical marks in virgin forest explained

1 posted on 07/04/2012 6:07:44 AM PDT by SunkenCiv
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To: StayAt HomeMother; Ernest_at_the_Beach; decimon; 1010RD; 21twelve; 24Karet; 2ndDivisionVet; ...

 GGG managers are SunkenCiv, StayAt HomeMother & Ernest_at_the_Beach
Retsina ping? Nope, Saami diet and cuisine.

To all -- please ping me to other topics which are appropriate for the GGG list.


2 posted on 07/04/2012 6:11:52 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: SunkenCiv
K. You got me.

I don't have a recipe for that.

/johnny

3 posted on 07/04/2012 6:17:27 AM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: SunkenCiv

I hear tell pine bark biscuits with turpentine sauce makes a tasty breakfast.


4 posted on 07/04/2012 6:18:15 AM PDT by Islander7 (There is no septic system so vile, so filthy, the left won't drink from to further their agenda)
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To: SunkenCiv

5 posted on 07/04/2012 6:22:46 AM PDT by MuttTheHoople (Obama doesn’t have the work ethic to be Anti-Christ.)
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To: Islander7
I used to use a product called "Pychnoginol" that was an anti-oxident made from the bark of the Maritime Pine tree off the coast of ... I forget where.

The stuff was terrific for pains I had and overall healthful feeling.

I networked it, but life circumstances interfered, I dropped out, never got back, etc.

This might be a simular tree product.

The article states onlly the word, "pine", which could be any of a number of trees.

6 posted on 07/04/2012 6:27:35 AM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true)
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To: knarf

It’s from a French pine. I take it for tinnitus.


7 posted on 07/04/2012 6:34:48 AM PDT by Windcatcher (Obama is a COMMUNIST and the MSM is his armband-wearing propaganda machine.)
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To: SunkenCiv

It was Trolls, they're lying to you.

Ugg, hideous movie, btw. :-)

8 posted on 07/04/2012 6:39:48 AM PDT by RikaStrom ("To learn who rules over you, simply find out who you are not allowed to criticize." ~Voltaire)
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To: SunkenCiv

9 posted on 07/04/2012 6:42:30 AM PDT by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet - Mater tua caligas exercitus gerit ;-{)
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To: SunkenCiv

“Ever eat a pine tree? Many parts are edible.”

/Euell Gibbons


10 posted on 07/04/2012 6:42:53 AM PDT by eartrumpet
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To: JRandomFreeper; Islander7; MuttTheHoople; wildbill; RikaStrom

LOL!


11 posted on 07/04/2012 6:43:21 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: Windcatcher

As the late “Uel Gibbins” “spelling im sure im wrong” Used to say,,,,,”some parts are edible”


12 posted on 07/04/2012 6:43:29 AM PDT by Craftmore
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To: Windcatcher
Thanx .. I had forgotten

Now, in all the promotional I received, I never heard of tinitus as something it worked on.

I have tinitus and how well does Pychnoginal work?

13 posted on 07/04/2012 6:44:46 AM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true)
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To: Renfield

Whoops, thanks Renfield!! I’m on dialup here, and the blips and delays distract me. :’o


14 posted on 07/04/2012 6:46:05 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: SunkenCiv

Chuck Norris visited there on vacation. It’s not a virgin forest anymore.


15 posted on 07/04/2012 6:49:08 AM PDT by Bronco_Buster_FweetHyagh (I cling to guns and religion.)
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To: Windcatcher
It’s from a French pine. I take it for tinnitus. I have tinnitus at times, also. It became, at times, significant a few years ago when migraine headaches began. So far, I can just ignore it.

Of course, there is tinnitus, which is a simple ringing in the ears. Then, much more seriously, there is Rin-tin-tin-itus, which is a barking in the ears.

16 posted on 07/04/2012 6:53:34 AM PDT by jimtorr
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To: SunkenCiv

Was it The Beatles?


17 posted on 07/04/2012 6:56:35 AM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: RikaStrom

First thing I thought too.


18 posted on 07/04/2012 6:56:39 AM PDT by Chipper (You can't kill an Obamazombie by destroying the brain...they didn't have one to begin with.)
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To: eartrumpet

Save the Forest. Pull Euell Gibbons’ teeth.

Bumper sticker from the period.


19 posted on 07/04/2012 6:59:06 AM PDT by DManA
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To: SunkenCiv

This must be the source of the old adage: “His bark is worse than his bite.”


20 posted on 07/04/2012 7:07:58 AM PDT by wildbill (You're just jealous because the Voices talk only to me.)
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To: SunkenCiv

Plants from a Viking garden:

http://www.univeur.org/UserFiles/File/Download%20pdf/Pact%2042/07%20M.%20Eggen.pdf

(Angelica, onion, pea, cabbage, turnip, bean, cress, hemp {Cannabis}, woad, hop, apple, and plum)


21 posted on 07/04/2012 7:09:52 AM PDT by Renfield (Turning apples into venison since 1999!)
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To: JoeProBono

:’)


22 posted on 07/04/2012 7:14:01 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: SunkenCiv

23 posted on 07/04/2012 7:24:03 AM PDT by stormer
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To: SunkenCiv

It was aliens.


24 posted on 07/04/2012 7:35:21 AM PDT by bgill
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To: SunkenCiv

“It turned out that this came from the ancient Sami practice of harvesting pine bark for food,” explains Elvebakk. “In a laborious process the bark was converted into flour that could be used in cooking.”


I think I’ll start looking for instructions & recipes...if Obama is reelected, we may all need to know how.


25 posted on 07/04/2012 8:26:43 AM PDT by ApplegateRanch (Love me, love my guns!©)
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To: stormer

Wow,Is that real.


26 posted on 07/04/2012 8:37:25 AM PDT by fatima (Free Hugs Today :))
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To: fatima

It’s real.

http://www.neatorama.com/?s=crooked+forest


27 posted on 07/04/2012 8:45:21 AM PDT by ApplegateRanch (Love me, love my guns!©)
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To: DManA
Save the Forest. Pull Euell Gibbons’ teeth.

Bumper sticker from the period.

I remember Euell Gibbons. Despite his constant promotion of eating natural foods, living a natural lifestyle, etc., he was in his early 60s when he passed away.

28 posted on 07/04/2012 8:54:14 AM PDT by GreenHornet
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To: stormer

Party time in Fangorn Forest!


29 posted on 07/04/2012 8:56:33 AM PDT by Rebelbase (The most transparent administration ever is clear as mud.)
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To: Windcatcher

Does it do any good?


30 posted on 07/04/2012 9:08:22 AM PDT by Iscool (You mess with me, you mess with the WHOLE trailerpark...)
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To: ApplegateRanch

Thanks,:)


31 posted on 07/04/2012 9:08:58 AM PDT by fatima (Free Hugs Today :))
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To: jimtorr

Ringing in the ears? pfffft Just wait ‘til you get real tin nitus, and flakes of tin start clanging down at odd times from your ears! The tinkling noise can be very distracting, and call attention tot you when you least want it.


32 posted on 07/04/2012 9:10:55 AM PDT by MHGinTN (Being deceived can be cured.)
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To: jimtorr

Ringing in the ears? pfffft Just wait ‘til you get real tin nitus, and flakes of tin start clanging down at odd times from your ears! The tinkling noise can be very distracting, and call attention to you when you least want it.


33 posted on 07/04/2012 9:10:55 AM PDT by MHGinTN (Being deceived can be cured.)
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To: ApplegateRanch

Thanks for posting that! Now I’ve found another really ‘Neat’ website ont he astonishing Web.


34 posted on 07/04/2012 9:40:27 AM PDT by MHGinTN (Being deceived can be cured.)
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To: ApplegateRanch

Thanks for posting that! Now I’ve found another really ‘Neat’ website on the astonishing Web.


35 posted on 07/04/2012 9:40:36 AM PDT by MHGinTN (Being deceived can be cured.)
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To: SunkenCiv

Heh.

Proof that after a forest is let go fallow for a period of time, econazis can’t even tell it if was virgin or not... unless some old, ecofriendly “noble savages” barked the trees.


36 posted on 07/04/2012 10:06:36 AM PDT by Grimmy (equivocation is but the first step along the road to capitulation)
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To: stormer; fatima

On hillsides where the soils have had small landslides you’ll see something similar. But this is flat. I wonder if a wind burst/mini tornado bent and/or broke the group of 400 trees but they didn’t die, and continued to grow from their bent position?

Really cool photo!


37 posted on 07/04/2012 11:03:28 AM PDT by 21twelve
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To: JRandomFreeper

And you claim to be a good cook! ;-)

Although I’m not sure how nutritious pine bark would be. Plenty of roughage, though.


38 posted on 07/04/2012 12:05:42 PM PDT by TheOldLady
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To: RikaStrom

Damn rabid trolls.


39 posted on 07/04/2012 12:27:38 PM PDT by BBell (And Now for Something Completely Different)
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To: BBell
THAT, I have a recipe for.

Not the trees. Trolls yes, trees, no.

/johnny

40 posted on 07/04/2012 7:24:06 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: TheOldLady
We can't all be specialists.

/johnny

41 posted on 07/04/2012 7:26:55 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: JRandomFreeper

You’re right, as usual. ;-D


42 posted on 07/04/2012 7:48:47 PM PDT by TheOldLady
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To: ApplegateRanch

Almost as if somebody tied some saplings down and left’em that way for a couple of years.


43 posted on 07/04/2012 7:51:06 PM PDT by ExGeeEye (Romney Sucks. Mutiny Now, or something.)
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To: Iscool

This is a subjective measurement, but I’d say it mutes it by upwards of 50%, give or take.


44 posted on 07/04/2012 9:00:48 PM PDT by Windcatcher (Obama is a COMMUNIST and the MSM is his armband-wearing propaganda machine.)
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To: knarf

For me it seems to mute it by about half, though I admit it’s a subjective measurement. It definitely appears to take some of the edge off the constant 1kHz whine.


45 posted on 07/04/2012 9:02:58 PM PDT by Windcatcher (Obama is a COMMUNIST and the MSM is his armband-wearing propaganda machine.)
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To: SunkenCiv
An entire virgin forest?


46 posted on 07/05/2012 2:59:58 PM PDT by colorado tanker
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To: eartrumpet

Lol. I just knew somebody would beat me to the Euell Gibbons remarks.


47 posted on 07/06/2012 7:31:02 PM PDT by rdl6989 (January 20, 2013 The end of an error.)
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To: fatima; stormer

I’m with stormer on this one. It’s amazing if real.


48 posted on 07/06/2012 7:32:32 PM PDT by rdl6989 (January 20, 2013 The end of an error.)
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To: 21twelve

The article said that those trees in Poland were tied down by farmers to grow in a curved manner.


49 posted on 07/08/2012 1:50:55 AM PDT by SatinDoll
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