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To: pavlova

There are several Jews who have married into our extended gentile family. One of the gentiles my nephew a proud United States Army officer who converted to Judaism to raise the kids in one faith. If captured in Afghanistan he can be executed equally for being a Jew, a soldier and an American. Being American is a state of mind so perhaps if a Zionist is too bigoted to reconcile love of America and their faith they are better off not being here. Most Americans are better then that.


20 posted on 07/04/2012 4:14:37 PM PDT by dog breath
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To: dog breath

Every Jewish person I’ve ever known has been very loyal to USA, some more so than average. This has to do with the Jewish people’s history and their deeply shared values with America and our American founders. But it is even (more so?) a key teaching of the Jewish faith ... to be good, loyal citizens where=ever resident. This apparently started when Jews found themselves exiled in Babylonia, see Jeremiah 29:4-7, then you may wish to check out Ezra 6:6-10 and many Talmudic or rabbinic statements of loyalty to one’s country of citizenship. The Jewish writers of later Christian scriptures all agreed, as with (your choice, the teaching about loyalty or praying for your rulers whoever they are...where-ever you may be — is quite consistent in all Judeo- Christian books — you can if you wish take a look at such as 1 Maccabees 7:33, Romans 13: 1-7, 1 Peter 2:1-2 and :13-17; Titus 3:1-2, 1 Tim 2:1-4; Galatians 3_19-22, and so on. Almost all of the Bible verses in this posting were written while their Jewish authors were either in exile outside the Promised Land of Israel or under siege or foreign occupation while resident within Israel/Judea. Take your pick, Judeo- Christian religious teachings or scriptures are almost all of a loyal mind for their rulers. (This of course does not mean No Criticism if the rulers are tyrannical or if they, say, show contempt for the citizens or their constitutional rights!) To find a handful of Jews, or people with Jewish-sounding names, or Protestants or Catholics who have any higher loyalty (other to God of course!) and then to post those misguided statements... risks misleading FR readers that Jews or Protestants or Catholics are untrustworthy. This could only breed discord in America at a time when all of us need to work together to fix the obvious problems we have — including those we have with our Rulers — but to speak out for the USA Constitutional or our people’s inalienable constitutional liberties, or to support the 2012 political campaigns for some hopefully-better leaders... is nothing but loyal to America and what our country stands for in history, and in the world. Please do not be misled by silly or stupid or misguided quotes from individuals that are patently NOT at all representative of Jewish teachings (for at least 2,700 years) or the last 2,000 years of Christianity. Thank you.


32 posted on 07/04/2012 5:24:43 PM PDT by faithhopecharity
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