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OBAMA HAS NO LAW LICENSE, NOR DOES MICHELLE.
Alamo City Pundit ^ | MAy 15, 2009 | Johnnny Alamo

Posted on 07/06/2012 8:52:22 AM PDT by MrChips

I saw a note slide across the #TCOT feed on Twitter last night that mentioned Michelle Obama had no law license. This struck me as odd, since (a) she went to school to be a lawyer, and (b) she just recently held a position with the University of Chicago Hospitals as legal counsel — and that’s a pretty hard job to qualify for without a law license. But being a licensed professional myself, i knew that every state not only requires licensure, they make it possible to check online the status of any licensed professional. So I did . . . MORE

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President Barack Obama, former editor of the Harvard Law Review, is no longer a "lawyer". He surrendered his license back in 2008 in order to escape charges he lied on his bar application. A "Voluntary Surrender" is not something where you decide "Gee, a license is not really something I need anymore, is it?" and forget to renew your license. No, a "Voluntary Surrender" is something you do when you've been accused of something, and you 'voluntarily surrender" your license five seconds before the state suspends you. 2 Michelle Obama "voluntarily surrendered" her law license in 1993. after a Federal Judge gave her the choice between surrendering her license or standing trial for Insurance fraud! 3. So, we have the first black President and First Lady - who don't actually have licenses to practice law.
1 posted on 07/06/2012 8:52:24 AM PDT by MrChips
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To: MrChips

This charge is bogus. Plenty of real things to criticize him for. No need to make stuff up.


2 posted on 07/06/2012 8:56:40 AM PDT by DManA (hOW)
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To: MrChips
Interesting! According to a former IRS Agent:

"Barry still could not get a real job, because he was still a fraud, even with his Harvard degree in hand he could lie and take the Bar exam, but he could not work as a lawyer for a major law firm without a back ground investigation and he would never pass one. So, Michelle got Barry a job at her law firm. Barry never filed a case alone and never filed a motion. He wrote lots of memos according to the law firm where Barry worked. (I think they know Barry is a fraud and don't want to be sued by previous clients) Barry rescinded his law licenses, so as not to be disbarred for fraud. The Bar knows Barry lied on his application. Michelle also had to turn over her law license for her involvement in corruption with the Chicago mayors office. "

3 posted on 07/06/2012 8:57:21 AM PDT by tsowellfan (http://www.cafenetamerica.com/)
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To: MrChips

They both obtained licenses to practice law, but were terminated without any explanation as to why or by whom. Would be very interesting given the fact that both of them were involved in some shady circumstances where hundreds of thousands of dollars changed hands with very little supporting evidence...


4 posted on 07/06/2012 8:59:27 AM PDT by Stayfree (Find out the truth at Patriotic Americans United.com!)
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To: DManA

This charge is bogus.”

Exactly how so?


5 posted on 07/06/2012 9:00:39 AM PDT by ConservativeDude
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To: MrChips

So, we have the first black President and First Lady - who don’t actually have licenses to practice law.

And, both seem to lacking moral scruples as well. Nice job on your 2008 election selection, other half of America!


6 posted on 07/06/2012 9:01:01 AM PDT by Bitsy
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To: DManA

Remember that a former senior official at the FBI said that given Barry’s background, he could not be accepted for employment at the FBI!!!!!


7 posted on 07/06/2012 9:02:06 AM PDT by Stayfree (Find out the truth at Patriotic Americans United.com!)
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To: MrChips

There are already a large number of law school graduates who haven’t been able to find work as attorneys and have taken other jobs. If the Obama’s had kept their law licenses, they would increase those numbers.

Michelle “voluntarily surrendered” her law license in 1993? That’s only five years after graduating from Harvard Law!


8 posted on 07/06/2012 9:02:14 AM PDT by JeffChrz (ObamaCare is now ObamaTax. Vote for Romney.)
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To: ConservativeDude

bump, to check later


9 posted on 07/06/2012 9:02:32 AM PDT by WHBates
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To: tsowellfan
and Bernadine Dohrn, unrepentant terrorist, got Michelle her job. Bernadine Dohrn who also could never practice law

Want to be Valerie Jarret knows where all the obama Chicago skeletons are buried and that is why Mocchelle tolerates her being the real strong black woman who runs the WH and Barrys life

10 posted on 07/06/2012 9:03:25 AM PDT by silverleaf (Every human spent about half an hour as a single cell)
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To: MrChips

Where I live, you have to renew your license every year and you must remain an active membership in the Bar. To keep the license, you must also complete so many hours of continuing legal education.

Since neither of the Obamas need a license to plunder and pillage this country, it makes sense for them to allow their licenses to lapse.


11 posted on 07/06/2012 9:07:42 AM PDT by fatnotlazy
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To: MrChips

I read that her hospital job was a made up one to help the poor get proper healthcare...ha ha...but I digress.

Legal Counsel to the hospital?

She was???


12 posted on 07/06/2012 9:09:14 AM PDT by txrangerette ("HOLD TO THE TRUTH...SPEAK WITHOUT FEAR." - Glenn Beck)
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To: MrChips

For what it’s worth.... I have no idea if this is valid.

http://factcheck.org/2012/06/the-obamas-law-licenses/

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President Obama graduated from Harvard Law School in 1991 and was admitted as a lawyer by the Supreme Court of Illinois on Dec. 17, 1991. Prior to being elected to the Illinois state Senate in 1996, he worked as a civil rights lawyer at the firm formerly known as Davis, Miner, Barnhill & Galland. Four days after Obama announced that he would run for president in February 2007, he voluntarily elected to have his law license placed on “inactive” status, according to Grogan. Then, after becoming president, he elected to change his status to “retired” in February 2009.

Michelle Obama graduated from Harvard Law School in 1988, and was admitted as a lawyer by the Supreme Court of Illinois on May 12, 1989. Following graduation, she joined Sidley Austin, a corporate law firm in Chicago. But a few years later, in 1994, while working for the Public Allies project in Chicago, Obama voluntarily had her license placed on “inactive” status.

But the claim that the Obamas “surrendered” their licenses to avoid ethics charges has no basis in fact. Neither of the Obamas has any public record of discipline or pending proceedings against them, according to the online public registration records of the ARDC. We also confirmed that with Grogan, who said that the Obamas were “never the subject of any public disciplinary proceedings.”

The Obamas haven’t said exactly what prompted them to change the status of their licenses. But Grogan said that it was fairly common for lawyers who didn’t intend to continue practicing law to go on inactive status. It was actually one of the reasons, he said, that the rule was changed so that lawyers wanting to switch to inactive status no longer had to petition the Illinois Supreme Court to do so. In 2011, more than 12 percent of the state’s 87,943 registered attorneys were on inactive status (see Chart 2), according to the ARDC’s annual report for that year.

In addition, prior to June 5, 2012, the Obamas would have been required to pay an annual fee of $289 (now $342), and take classes to satisfy the state’s Minimum Continuing Legal Education requirement, in order to keep their licenses active. Lawyers on retirement status, however, don’t have to pay an annual fee or take classes. And lawyers on inactive status also don’t have to take classes, but they do have to pay an annual fee of $105.

Perhaps one reason for these false claims is that the online registration record used to list Michelle Obama as being “on court ordered inactive status.” But that wasn’t because of any wrongdoing. As previously mentioned, before 1999, an Illinois Supreme Court rule required active lawyers who wanted to change their registration status to do so by petitioning the court.

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13 posted on 07/06/2012 9:11:12 AM PDT by deport
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To: MrChips
I know it's not as sexy but, depending on the state, one can opt to put their law license (as well as other professional licenses) in a sort of dormant state.

Many times, this is done with licenses that, for instance, require continuing education every year to maintain the license.

This is an option many choose when they move out of state and/or take a break from practicing law but still want to maintain their license for future uses. In other words, when the license holder does not want to or practically can not maintain the continuing education requirements.

14 posted on 07/06/2012 9:11:12 AM PDT by gdani
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To: MrChips
0bama and his moochie wife now have a license to break the law .
15 posted on 07/06/2012 9:12:52 AM PDT by Lionheartusa1 (-: Socialism is the equal distribution of misery :-)
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To: deport

There is nothing for factcheck to go by other than Obama’s book. Everything (if it even existed) has been sealed.


16 posted on 07/06/2012 9:15:45 AM PDT by tsowellfan (http://www.cafenetamerica.com/)
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To: tsowellfan

“O” is in politics because he CANNOT be gainfully employed anywhere ELSE!

I am certain I faced a tougher vetting process to get MY dinky job than “O” ever faced in his life for his many cushy and princely paid positions!


17 posted on 07/06/2012 9:16:00 AM PDT by SMARTY ("The man who has no inner-life is a slave to his surroundings. "Henri Frederic Amiel)
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To: MrChips

Just googled her hospital job.

It was created for her and was called,
VP for Community and External Affairs.

It was eliminated after she left it.

Not a job as Legal Counsel, no way.

I’m not knocking all of your points or facts.

But there’s no reason for the Obamas to maintain active law licenses as they haven’t even claimed to practice law for many years.


18 posted on 07/06/2012 9:17:53 AM PDT by txrangerette ("HOLD TO THE TRUTH...SPEAK WITHOUT FEAR." - Glenn Beck)
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To: MrChips
So, we have the first black mulatto President and First Lady
19 posted on 07/06/2012 9:17:53 AM PDT by varon
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To: txrangerette

Wasn’t there something about him not listing his aliases on the application?


20 posted on 07/06/2012 9:17:57 AM PDT by Digger (If RINO is your selection then failure is your election)
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To: MrChips

Neither of these two free-riders ever put their law licenses to good use. Imagine Barry or Michelle not lying under oath. It’s not easy, even if you try. So, it matters little if they really let their licenses lapse, or lost them. Either way, they are bums. ...Their friend Holder needs to lose his law licenses as soon as possible.


21 posted on 07/06/2012 9:18:27 AM PDT by pallis
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To: SMARTY
You are correct.

< snip... "With time on his hands Barry, a well spoken black man, was able to get elected to a state office, oddly because he looked for fraud in his opponents voter registrations and got his opponent disqualified from running. Barry a well versed liar was a natural in state politics. He used his political influence to get himself a position as a lecturer at Chicago's law school. Barry embellished this position as a "professor of law" which everyone knows is completely false. Barry was not a professor or even a specialist at anything but lying. < /snip

22 posted on 07/06/2012 9:21:21 AM PDT by tsowellfan (http://www.cafenetamerica.com/)
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To: DManA
Bogus? For your consideration I submit that the 'ARDC' search results have been 'scrubbed' or shall I say 'sanitized' to avoid any appearance of wrongdoing. An ARDC search for Michelle Robinson once looked like THIS:

Why has the 'court ordered' since been removed, hmmm?

23 posted on 07/06/2012 9:22:24 AM PDT by GeorgeWashingtonsGhost
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To: Digger

You lost me there.

I was commenting on Michelle supposedly being legal counsel for the Hospital. She was not. No law license was required for her job there.

Do you mean Barack’s application to law school? Not listing aliases?

Look, the way was greased for Obama every step he took in life. He is now President of the United States who has gotten away with a massive number of phony and hidden actions. Even those that are known or suspected cannot be used to prosecute him or take away his Presidency.

Those are facts, hate ‘em or not.


24 posted on 07/06/2012 9:24:34 AM PDT by txrangerette ("HOLD TO THE TRUTH...SPEAK WITHOUT FEAR." - Glenn Beck)
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To: MrChips

BambamKennedy is the law, no need for a license when one has become ‘god’. Think Christ was not talking to this generation when He spoke of those who sit in Moses seat? The whole chapter of Matthew 23. Christ’s words “to the multitude and to His Disciple, (2)Saying, “The scribes and the Pharisees sit in Moses’ seat: The rest of the chapter reads like it describes all pillars of a supposed functioning society. Political, economic, educational, and last but certainly not least ‘religious’. BambamKennedy picks and uses GOD (it is Written the WORD is God) when it suits his political purposes... He sure has the ability to rule from that ‘bully’ pulpit...


25 posted on 07/06/2012 9:25:39 AM PDT by Just mythoughts (Luke 17:32 Remember Lot's wife.)
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To: GeorgeWashingtonsGhost
Why has the 'court ordered' since been removed, hmmm?

Maybe because people were wrongly assuming "court ordered" was a bad thing, and not a case of a court acting on a license holder's petition to voluntarily place their license on inactive status?

Really, there's plenty to go after BHO for without resorting to grand conspiracy theories that have no basis in reality.

26 posted on 07/06/2012 9:29:44 AM PDT by gdani
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To: Stayfree

Hell he couldn’t even join our 4-H or little league. He’s a fraud through and through.


27 posted on 07/06/2012 9:31:16 AM PDT by mcshot (God bless the USA! OMG PLEASE vote ABO or OWW and our Country dies.)
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To: GeorgeWashingtonsGhost

nice capture

records scrubbing must be an exhausting job for the true believer and obama protector legion


28 posted on 07/06/2012 9:32:41 AM PDT by silverleaf (Every human spent about half an hour as a single cell)
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To: txrangerette

and who was also “working” for the hospital as a CEO?
Valerie Jarrett


29 posted on 07/06/2012 9:34:21 AM PDT by silverleaf (Every human spent about half an hour as a single cell)
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To: gdani

Why would somebody bust their butt to get a law license (1989) then voluntarily surrender it a mere 4 years later (1993)?


30 posted on 07/06/2012 9:34:59 AM PDT by GeorgeWashingtonsGhost
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To: DManA
This charge is bogus. Plenty of real things to criticize him for. No need to make stuff up.

funny how many tards defend the 0bama's at every turn using similar statements.

strangely enough, when i'm at war i don't 'avoid the small stuff'... i use everything at every turn to take them out. the left does this... why shouldn't we?

of course, those attempting to deflect are really just lib agents here on FR

31 posted on 07/06/2012 9:38:16 AM PDT by sten (fighting tyranny never goes out of style)
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To: silverleaf

Oh I understand how the scheme worked.

But who ever thought COMMUNISTS aren’t crooks, too?

Not me.

Jarrett
Axelrod
Ayers
Dohrn
Barry
Michele
Van Jones
Rezko
Wright
Others

=

COMMUNISTS
CROOKS


32 posted on 07/06/2012 9:42:57 AM PDT by txrangerette ("HOLD TO THE TRUTH...SPEAK WITHOUT FEAR." - Glenn Beck)
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To: GeorgeWashingtonsGhost
Why would somebody bust their butt to get a law license (1989) then voluntarily surrender it a mere 4 years later (1993)?

See my post #14.

By the way, many, many, many people go to law school, graduate, pass the bar but ultimately end up not practicing law or doing it for a very short time.

Or they move to another state with no plans to return (law licenses are issued state-by-state).

33 posted on 07/06/2012 9:44:41 AM PDT by gdani
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To: Stayfree

They voluntarily retired their licenses. This is not unusual at all. Lawyers who change careers do it all the time.

Michelle was not hired as legal counsel for the hospital. She was hired to move poor sick people who couldn’t pay their bills out of the hospital and foist them on some other hospital. Then when her husband was elected to the Senate her job was to lobby him to give tax dollars to the hospital. She did both jobs well but neither needed a law license to do them.

Barry never practiced law. Probably because he was incompetent.


34 posted on 07/06/2012 9:45:40 AM PDT by DManA (hOW)
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To: gdani

I understand the law schools are graduating vastly more people than there are jobs waiting.


35 posted on 07/06/2012 9:47:34 AM PDT by DManA (hOW)
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To: GeorgeWashingtonsGhost

They might have had ethical issues, sure, but why would they “bust their butts”, only to surrender licenses?

Don’t know for sure about her, but he obviously did not bust his butt for anything in his entire life. It was paved like a golden street for his every step and he knew it. He as a self admitted lay about and druggie. And there’s a reason we don’t see his grades.

Doubt if she had to try hard, either. She came from a family with connections in Chicago, just like Jarrett did, and they all had each others’ backs.

Surrendering the license to practice is no biggie either. You can get all kinds of jobs and you can always list on your resume that you are a law school grad and that is considered important.

And if someone has already paved your way, who cares anyhow?

Are you aware Barry used to tell people since he was a child and on beyond, that one day he was going to be President of the United States?

Not that he wanted to be, that he WOULD be?

So why would he sweat anything along the way...


36 posted on 07/06/2012 9:51:17 AM PDT by txrangerette ("HOLD TO THE TRUTH...SPEAK WITHOUT FEAR." - Glenn Beck)
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To: GeorgeWashingtonsGhost

The key word is voluntary. She asked the court to inactivate her license and they so ordered it. There is nothing suspicious there at all.


37 posted on 07/06/2012 9:51:33 AM PDT by DManA (hOW)
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To: DManA
I understand the law schools are graduating vastly more people than there are jobs waiting.

That's been the case for years & years. More so in recent times.

The WSJ had an article in the last week or two saying (if I remember right) about 50% of law school grads can't find legal jobs.

Many law schools, in turn, pad their own stats regarding graduates getting jobs by setting grads up with temporary positions, paid for by the law school. Presto! - Their graduates are getting jobs!

38 posted on 07/06/2012 9:53:22 AM PDT by gdani
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To: sten

I notice a lot of turds make crap up to distract us from the important issues. I notice this a lot.


39 posted on 07/06/2012 9:54:31 AM PDT by DManA (hOW)
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To: DManA

“This charge is bogus.”

It is only bogus in your own mind.

Much has been written about this in the past.


40 posted on 07/06/2012 9:56:02 AM PDT by Gatún(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)
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To: GatĂșn(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)

watch this . . . about 30 minutes long

Debt collector traces the Obama’s

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X6tvti9um6k&feature=player_embedded#!


41 posted on 07/06/2012 10:03:15 AM PDT by imemyself
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To: gdani

Indeed. This was something initially floated by Hillary’s people in 2008. It went nowhere as it was based on selective truths and bad assumptions.

Life isn’t a Tom Clancy novel, with sinister Machiavellian types hiding their past and biding their time to strike. There’s plenty of bad politics and legislation that Obama is putting out RIGHT NOW that trumps this dumb and inaccurate cloak & dagger stuff.


42 posted on 07/06/2012 10:14:48 AM PDT by mquinn (Obama's supporters: a deliberate drowning of consciousness by means of rhythmic noise)
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To: MrChips

She wasn’t legal counsel for the hospital.


43 posted on 07/06/2012 10:28:25 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: tsowellfan

Check and see who or what organization is behind factcheck.org....it will be interesting what you will find out.....


44 posted on 07/06/2012 10:33:54 AM PDT by rxtn41
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To: txrangerette

Actually, her “job” was to get the indigent etc to other hospitals so “her” hospital didn’t have to bother with them. Real sensitive and caring, dontchaknow?


45 posted on 07/06/2012 10:36:09 AM PDT by hal ogen (First Amendment or Reeducation Camp?)
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To: GeorgeWashingtonsGhost

I really doubt if an affirmative-action, equal-opportunity lpser who wrote an eighgth-grade-level thesis really “bust her butt” at any point of her “education”.


46 posted on 07/06/2012 10:40:01 AM PDT by hal ogen (First Amendment or Reeducation Camp?)
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To: rxtn41
I know George Soros is behind one of the factcheck domains. One is a .com and another is a .org. (typically the left uses .orgs).

During a debate Dick Chaney accidentally gave out the wrong domain which was the George Soro's factcheck website.

I will bet that the factcheck.org is the George Soro's one. I could be wrong.

47 posted on 07/06/2012 10:44:14 AM PDT by tsowellfan (http://www.cafenetamerica.com/)
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To: imemyself

Thank you so very much for your post to me.


48 posted on 07/06/2012 10:45:45 AM PDT by Gatún(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)
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To: txrangerette

hmmm lets see...

what percentage of lawyers voluntarily give up their law license, because “eh, I just didnt need it anymore”.. ?

and what percentage of lawyers give up their law license 5 seconds before it is going to be taken from them...?

anyone?


49 posted on 07/06/2012 10:48:07 AM PDT by Mr. K (OBAMA MUST BE STOPPED ROMNEY/GINGRICH)
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To: GatĂșn(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer); DManA
DManA, what would you have for unsealed information/documents that could discredit anything said about Obama's past except for what is written in a book called "Dreams Of My Father"?

There's nothing anybody has that can prove the charges to be bogus anymore than there's anything out there that can prove Obama's book to be "reality".

Everything's been sealed.

50 posted on 07/06/2012 10:52:44 AM PDT by tsowellfan (http://www.cafenetamerica.com/)
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