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To: Jack Black; Windflier

“Most smart meters do only one thing: send a meter reading to the utility every 15 minutes. The rest of what the letter claims is imaginary.”

There actually is a bit more to it. For example, the next generation of appliances will have the ability to be commanded off by your ‘Smart Meter’, for cases like when the wind stops blowing in West Texas - and there are now patents on lockable (by the utility) receptacles that do the same. So it’s best to be your own electrician (like some of us here) so that you can defeat these lifestyle-changing features that our brave new world is bringing us.

The 15 minute reporting is also nothing to play down, being that resolution before the ‘Smart Meters’ was 30 days, or roughly 3000 times as long. What 15 minutes means is that anyone that can access your meter’s data will likley know the following:
a) When people go to bed at night
b) When people wake up in the morning
c) When people go to work in the morning
d) When people come home from work in the evening
e) When people leave to go on vacation
f) When people return from vacation

In Texas, as far as I can tell, there is ZERO PROTECTION of that information (unless someone knows otherwise). This information can legally be taken by a person that works for a utility, or is contracted to a utility, or to a policeman, to a university doing a study, or to anyone else that is interested in your ‘habits’, as the left calls them.

And also don’t think that what you will pay for electrical power won’t be based on when you use that power - its GUARANTEED, for sure. And guess what: Those high-cost times will be when it’s 100F outside.


47 posted on 07/07/2012 2:42:47 PM PDT by BobL
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To: BobL

The 15 minute reporting is also nothing to play down, being that resolution before the ‘Smart Meters’ was 30 days, or roughly 3000 times as long. What 15 minutes means is that anyone that can access your meter’s data will likley know the following:
a) When people go to bed at night
b) When people wake up in the morning
c) When people go to work in the morning
d) When people come home from work in the evening
e) When people leave to go on vacation
f) When people return from vacation


That depends. If you use electric heat, or during air conditioning months, the high draw appliances will dwarf a typical electric light. If you have gone to mostly florescent and LED, it would be very difficult to tell when the bedroom lights went off. Other high draw appliances (e.g. dehumidifier, refrigerator, electric hair driers, electric clothes dryers and stoves, toaster ovens, microwave ovens, coffee makers, some power tools, would be impossible to separate from each other in a house with standard wiring, and hardly worth the trouble. A typical light bulb draws 60 watts, an equivalent flourescent 20 and an LED less than that. The dehumidifier in the basement and the refrigerator will draw 1500. That hydroponics operation will draw more still.

On a scale of 1 to 10 for concern, I give this a 2, and that only because of what they MIGHT build off of from this in the future. I think the free market idea would work. $5 discount for those who want the smart meter so that they don't have to send a man to check your meter every month. I gladly pay $2 a quarter for a paper bill from my garbage hauler because I want a tangible bill from the source. We can do the same with electric.

66 posted on 07/07/2012 3:59:45 PM PDT by Dr. Sivana ("Stronger. You see? You see? Your stupid minds! Stupid! Stupid! "--Eros, Plan 9 From Outer Space)
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To: BobL

It’s not just electrical usage but water, too. The article below was from 2008. Seems to me that these gateway devices located throughout neighborhoods are asking to be hacked.

“The new meters will have wireless interface units built in. Gateway devices will be located throughout a neighborhood that can receive information from the household smart meters. The gateway keeps the data until it is time to transfer it to the Utility Department’s software system where the information is analyzed by staff members.”

http://www.smartmeters.com/the-news/288-smart-meters-approved-in-texas-town.html


73 posted on 07/07/2012 4:42:16 PM PDT by bgill
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