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Bobcat or Maine Coon? (Vanity Wildlife Question ...)
Northern Casco Bay, Maine

Posted on 07/10/2012 11:45:25 PM PDT by skeama

Curious if hunters/outdoors/wildlife FRs know if this is a Bobcat. Here's some details not in the picture itself:

If it is in fact a bobcat or a bobcat/linx mix, and even though my cat chased it off the property ... as if it were ... James Mott ... I know bobcats are predators. (So was my cat for her first 18 months, during which time she raised her family) ... but does a domestic cat have any reason, other than disease, even if she's a pretty capable predator herself, to avoid this bobcat?

I won't kill it, and I'd love to have it around, but I will see about having it trapped if it's a threat to local pets or even small kids.

Thanks! (and feel free to just point me to a good resource if you know the answer but don't have time to get deeply into it.)

Here it is a little bigger:

Different resolution: (Darn - this is much clearer in an image editor, but I've double checked my html pixel counts

Note: the below picture is NOT mine - it is a pretty randomly chosen picture off google images of a bobcat-linx mix ... all these cats seem to vary widely in appearance



TOPICS: Outdoors; Pets/Animals
KEYWORDS: bobcat; cat; coon; kittyping; lynx
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1 posted on 07/10/2012 11:45:37 PM PDT by skeama
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To: skeama

A bobcat would have longer legs than that (unless those long legs esp. hind legs are hidden by deep vegetation). My guess is it’s a cat.


2 posted on 07/10/2012 11:50:40 PM PDT by thecodont
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To: skeama
Here is a purebred show quality Maine Coon (my girl Bijou). A really good Coon should have a "2-liter Coke bottle" tail, large tufted ears, full-furred "britches" around the hip area, gigantic tufted paws and a nice ruff. And generally, they're BIG. From what I could see of your picture, it looks like either a part-Coon or a poorly-bred Coon. No bobcat there!
3 posted on 07/11/2012 12:07:03 AM PDT by EinNYC
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To: skeama

perfect stride on a big fat cat


4 posted on 07/11/2012 12:07:35 AM PDT by Lib-Lickers 2
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To: EinNYC

Wow, never saw a calico Maine Coon before.


5 posted on 07/11/2012 12:15:02 AM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai

That’s because they are very rare. Only about 25 born per year world-wide, I was told by a breeder. I was tracking all the Maine Coon catteries in North America which I knew dealt with the solid color gene (you need that in order to get a tortie and white or a calico) for months before one of them got a tortie and white kitten in one of their litters and notified me.

I am a tortie and white aficionado. Both my kitties are t/w’s.


6 posted on 07/11/2012 12:20:38 AM PDT by EinNYC
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To: skeama

7 posted on 07/11/2012 12:29:46 AM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (If you like lying Socialist dirtbags, you'll love Slick Willard)
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To: skeama

Totally looks domestic to me.


8 posted on 07/11/2012 12:30:06 AM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live thnrough it anyway)
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To: thecodont
A bobcat would have longer legs than that (unless those long legs esp. hind legs are hidden by deep vegetation). My guess is it’s a cat.

That was also what I thought when I saw the pic..not a bobcat.

9 posted on 07/11/2012 12:31:10 AM PDT by sockmonkey (She could never be a saint, but she thought she could be a martyr if they killed her quick)
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To: skeama
Looks like my wife's Maine Coon. He's 18 pounds.


10 posted on 07/11/2012 12:34:24 AM PDT by packrat35 (Admit it! We are almost ready to be called a police state!)
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To: EinNYC
I have a tortie and white Maine Coon, although I know that he is not pure bred because his mother was a tuxedo cat. He is huge and was over 14 pounds at his last vet visit, but seems even heavier now. He is the sweetest, most affectionate cat to his “slaves” (AKA owners), but is a little leery of strangers. He is also very smart. My daughter taught him to sit when he “asks” for a kitty treat. I would post his picture to show you how handsome he is, but I am “technologically challenged”.
11 posted on 07/11/2012 12:48:15 AM PDT by srmorton (Deut. 30 19: "..I have set before you life and death,....therefore, choose life..")
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To: srmorton
Make sure your picture is posted on some kind of web hosting page, like Snapfish. Right-click on the picture and click "View Image" if using Firefox. Then highlight the URL and click Control-C to copy the URL. In your FReeper post (or any other forum post) type out: putting the URL you just copied between the quote marks. That's it, no more techie challenges, now we can see your kitty.
12 posted on 07/11/2012 12:58:22 AM PDT by EinNYC
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To: skeama

Hard to tell with the nighttime pic, but it looks like the fur is very thick, and a short to medium length (not long) with ticking. To me, the short, thick fur rules out a big Maine Coon. Also the tail is not a bottle brush like a MC (I think, again hard to tell from pic). So I’m thinking it’s not a MC, and indeed not even a domestic cat.

It does have certain bobcat-ish tendencies, like those round ears and the thickness of the limbs. I would guess a bobcat/domestic cat mix. That would be unusual but not unheard of. A woman I used to know had a Siamese that was impregnanted by a bobcat. She said the cat had trouble birthing the kittens because they were large.

I would think a bobcat/domestic mix might be trouble for small pets, but probably not for children unless they run after it. Post more pics if you get them!


13 posted on 07/11/2012 1:08:27 AM PDT by Hetty_Fauxvert ( "Be Breitbart, baby!")
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To: EinNYC
I am a tortie aficionado too. Don't have any purebreds, but I have loved torties ever since I rescued a little abandoned tortie kitten from an alley in Long Beach in 1989. She didn't live to be old, but I ave been nuts for torties ever since.

My current oldest girl is a long-haired red tortie, 11 years old. I also have a long-haired tortie-and-white who started life as a feral and was trapped up here in the desert somewhere. Until recently I also had a tiny short-haired tortie, but she had to be put to sleep recently. I also recently adopted another tiny short-haired tortie who is gonna have kittens soon.

Recently at a local PetSmart, I saw an adoptable cat who was a kind of chocolate tortie... no white, but her background color was more dark brown. Her colors were not dilute, but rather muted. She was also beautiful.

One rescuer told me that torties are hard to place, because even totally black cats are more popular to adopt.

I know tortie isn't the only beautiful coat pattern out there, but I just love all those wild markings.

Your tortie-and-white Maine Coon is a beauty. If I had really good cash flow, I might look for a Maine Coon too.

For some reason, here in Lancaster, California, I have seen more torties than other places I've been. Among the numerous kittens being offered for adoption on Craigslist this summer so far, there were a bunch of torties. one party even had a blue-eyed tortie, which I have never seen. Another party had had 4 torties in a litter, 3 black torties and 1 gray (dilute) tortie, all short-haired.

I just love that tortietude!

14 posted on 07/11/2012 1:13:25 AM PDT by pbmaltzman
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To: skeama

Chupacabra. I know. One bit my sister in the moose.


15 posted on 07/11/2012 1:16:27 AM PDT by Safetgiver
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To: sockmonkey; skeama

16 posted on 07/11/2012 1:22:41 AM PDT by Daffynition (Our forefathers would be shooting by now.)
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To: skeama

Looks like a regular tabby cat to me.


17 posted on 07/11/2012 1:41:33 AM PDT by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge)
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To: skeama

That image got JPEGed, so the resolution is gone.

That’s not a bobcat.


18 posted on 07/11/2012 1:41:49 AM PDT by Born to Conserve
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To: Hetty_Fauxvert

Thanks for replies so far, Hetty most.

There are about 16 pictures, I’ll add them tomorrow. I studied the tail. There is no discernible tail. In 2 or 3 pics, maybe a short tail. 6 of the pics are side shots of the cat walking - and in some cases are better pics for identifying this or that characteristic. Chances are pretty slim you wouldn’t get a single view of a tail in 16 pics though.

I am well acquainted w/coons. In addition to fur, most people don’t know that despite the many variations of characteristics, and the things coons are more well known for, you can tell a coon by it’s facial structure. Most people are looking at size and fur. Size-wise - definitely could be a coon. Not the right fur though as hetty said, absolutely not the right face.

If domestic/bobcat mixes are out there - then I’d definitely believe that.

Re: the Sasquatch picture. That’s so funny that I was going to add in my post that I already predicted it. Please don’t waste your time searching google images for other famous legends like a Lockness or a Bobcat Tractor or Barack Obama’s birth certificate :-)

Anyway - thanks a lot for input - I’ll get those other pictures up tomorrow.


19 posted on 07/11/2012 2:09:21 AM PDT by skeama (On what day did God create Barack Obama, and couldn't He have rested on that day.)
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To: skeama
Oops, my last post - I had only read the post directly to me. Will read the rest and respond.

RE: the image -> I uploaded the images to Fliqr.com, referenced them, and even with I had included the exact height and width, still seemed to lose about 2 out of 3 pixels.

Re: ‘Tortie’ - hah - never heard that term before. Could it just be a really really big tortie that's not primarily coon ... yeah, I'd believe that too. But I saw one just like it 2 years ago, and I did a double take. Everything is just off about this cat ... and I've had cats all my life.

OK will read the other post .. FYI - beautiful cats posted.

20 posted on 07/11/2012 2:09:32 AM PDT by skeama (On what day did God create Barack Obama, and couldn't He have rested on that day.)
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To: skeama

OK I’m all caught up on posts.
1. Thanks for replies so far
2. Beautiful cat pics
3. I’ll post the lot of the pictures later today w/o editing them at all.
3. Chupacabra / Moose - this is not a political thread. please leave Nancy P and Hillary out of this.
4. Long limbs - agreed. Other pictures have the cat sitting and you get a better idea of limb/muscle structure.

More later- thanks ...


21 posted on 07/11/2012 2:09:41 AM PDT by skeama (On what day did God create Barack Obama, and couldn't He have rested on that day.)
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To: skeama

It’s got a tail, for crying out loud! There’s another cat just in back of it. It’s just a regular cat. They were visiting in a back yard somewhere.


22 posted on 07/11/2012 2:33:18 AM PDT by brooklin
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To: skeama

Coons all wear the “M”, do they not?


23 posted on 07/11/2012 2:56:40 AM PDT by steve8714 (Who didn't already know Obama was our first gay President?)
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To: skeama
Fun to talk about something beyond the depressing..
That's a Kitty.
Stride is all house cat, and so is the shape.
24 posted on 07/11/2012 3:32:49 AM PDT by MassExodus
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To: skeama

Before you do ANYTHING with the images, save them in PNG format... change what you need to... upload to tinypic and it will produce a jpeg(jpg) automatically. PNG doesn’t lose the quality like the other formats (although it is a much larger file size).

It looks like a normal cat to me from what I can see of it ;)


25 posted on 07/11/2012 3:43:11 AM PDT by Bikkuri (Choose, a communist, socialist or Patriot)
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To: skeama

The body is that of a raccoon. I have both cats and raccoons visiting my cat food bowls outside and they interact often. The cats hiss and bat at the raccoons and the raccoons usually pay attention to that. So, having a cat and a raccoon together is very common. The nose is a bit odd looking in your photos, but it is definitely a raccoon body.


26 posted on 07/11/2012 3:57:11 AM PDT by augray
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To: EinNYC

Beautiful cat! But since her tail is “2 liter” she is barred from my town of NYC.


27 posted on 07/11/2012 4:02:55 AM PDT by miss marmelstein
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To: EinNYC
She's gorgeous! The fur would get to me, though. I have a Ragdoll and his fur drives me up the wall (plus, he hates being brushed but gets knotted without it).

How much does she weigh?

28 posted on 07/11/2012 4:09:43 AM PDT by CAluvdubya (I just try to stay out of the fray...)
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To: Slings and Arrows

kitty ping


29 posted on 07/11/2012 4:16:49 AM PDT by Mercat (Necessity is the argument of tyrants. John Milton)
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To: steve8714

M? Not following? Thanks ...


30 posted on 07/11/2012 4:20:17 AM PDT by skeama (On what day did God create Barack Obama, and couldn't He have rested on that day.)
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To: skeama; Slings and Arrows

Over to you Slings and Arrows. :)=^..^=


31 posted on 07/11/2012 4:27:14 AM PDT by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
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To: steve8714

I thought that was a tabby characteristic? (Referring to the little “M” in the fur pattern atop their heads.)


32 posted on 07/11/2012 5:28:08 AM PDT by M1903A1 ("We shed all that is good and virtuous for that which is shoddy and sleazy... and call it progress")
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To: skeama
Difficult to tell given the light situation, but I'd say it's not a bobcat. Here's one in daylight.


33 posted on 07/11/2012 5:48:58 AM PDT by Moltke ("I am Dr. Sonderborg," he said, "and I don't want any nonsense.")
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34 posted on 07/11/2012 6:01:36 AM PDT by Slings and Arrows (You can't have IngSoc without an Emmanuel Goldstein.)
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To: skeama

Looks like a cat to me.


35 posted on 07/11/2012 6:07:43 AM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: skeama

That is a domestic cat.


36 posted on 07/11/2012 6:22:04 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Government is the religion of the sociopath.)
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To: skeama

I have a coon cat and this looks like my cat.


37 posted on 07/11/2012 6:32:34 AM PDT by SaraJohnson
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To: skeama

Also, that cat is being followed by another stray that has a white paw and chest. They look like they are coming from under the deck in the background.


38 posted on 07/11/2012 6:35:05 AM PDT by SaraJohnson
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Also, that cat is being followed by another stray that has a white paw and chest. They look like they are coming from under the deck in the background.

Kittens in a couple months?

39 posted on 07/11/2012 7:15:45 AM PDT by sockmonkey (She could never be a saint, but she thought she could be a martyr if they killed her quick)
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To: EinNYC

Awwww... she’s beautiful!


40 posted on 07/11/2012 7:33:46 AM PDT by ZirconEncrustedTweezers (If you're gonna die, die with your boots on...)
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To: skeama

My guess is a feral Maine Coon. Our Livingston (aka Fat Cat) is pushing 30 pounds because he’s, well, fat. But before he porked up, he was well north of 20 pounds. He’s a big boy. The stance looks more like a Maine Coon, I always thought bobcats were a bit rangier with longer legs.

}:-)4


41 posted on 07/11/2012 7:39:40 AM PDT by Moose4 (...and walk away.)
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To: pbmaltzman; EinNYC

I have a torie alley cat I took in last January, who we’ve named Patch. She has probably lived on our property longer than we have; I remember seeing her in my back yard about a month after we moved into our house in June 2009. She was pretty fearful of us at first, but when I started putting out food (in the hopes of socializing a litter of kittens she’d had) she warmed up to us and eventually began living in our house.

She was pregnant at the time we took her in, and we decided to keep one of her kittens as well - a tortoiseshell tabby my wife named Monkey Face. The other three kittens have been adopted by friends.

Patch is very vocal, and she seems to have bonded pretty strongly with me. When she’s awake, she follows me all around the house, and I’m the only one allowed to touch her head.


42 posted on 07/11/2012 7:39:52 AM PDT by ZirconEncrustedTweezers (If you're gonna die, die with your boots on...)
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To: skeama

43 posted on 07/11/2012 7:40:36 AM PDT by abishai
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To: steve8714

“Coons all wear the “M”, do they not?”

This is a characteristic of tabby cats in general, not only Maine Coons.


44 posted on 07/11/2012 7:41:52 AM PDT by ZirconEncrustedTweezers (If you're gonna die, die with your boots on...)
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To: EinNYC

Lovely girl! I have a dilute calico Coon mix myself...she’s a tiny bit thinner in the face but otherwise has the same build more or less.


45 posted on 07/11/2012 8:01:54 AM PDT by Fire_on_High (WTB new tagline, PST!)
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To: skeama; Slings and Arrows

That’s a felix vulgaris.


46 posted on 07/11/2012 8:36:51 AM PDT by Lady Jag (If you can't make them see the light, let them feel the heat. - Reagan)
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To: skeama

The easiest way to tell if the kitty is a Maine-Coon or a bobcat would be to pick it up and cuddle it.

If you survive, it’s a Maine-Coon.

Mark


47 posted on 07/11/2012 8:49:39 AM PDT by MarkL (Do I really look like a guy with a plan?)
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To: skeama; Nervous Tick

Extreme, extreme cellular-level closeup.

48 posted on 07/11/2012 9:52:30 AM PDT by martin_fierro (< |:)~)
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To: skeama
The resolution is too poor to make a real assessment, however, as a person who has seen many Bobcats in the wild, I would say to you that if it was a Bobcat you wouldn't have to ask, you would know immediately that it was a Bobcat. They are distinctive and easy to spot and identify, even at a distance. I think this is just a cat.

I am not a great identifier of house cat breeds, such as Maine Coons, but I had a white, long haired cat that looked a lot like a Persian, when I was a teenager, that grew to 20 lbs if it was an ounce. He roamed the country side at will killing and eating all sorts of small game and finally met his match in our creek bed when he fought a raccoon to the death, they both died. We found the bodies lying by the creek, both of them torn up pretty badly.

After all these years I still miss that cat, he was also very loving when he decided to hang out at home.

49 posted on 07/11/2012 10:21:59 AM PDT by calex59
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To: EinNYC
My Valentine could be your cat's litter mate. I've never understood the thing with the bushy tail. It's completely different than the rest of her, which is smooth and glossy. She has a huge ruff, fur between her toes, and the longest ear hair I've ever seen on any animal. The tip of her nose is pure pink, she too darn cute and she's my baby. I got her from a woman standing outside a Walmart.
50 posted on 07/11/2012 11:14:14 AM PDT by Excellence (9/11 was an act of faith.)
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