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How Ancient Greeks Named Their Puppies
The Smithsonian ^ | 7-9-12

Posted on 07/16/2012 10:00:55 PM PDT by afraidfortherepublic

Dogs played a special role in ancient Greek society and mythology; Cerberus guarded the gates of Hades, the goddess Artemis used dogs in her hunt, and Greek citizens employed dogs for hunting and protection.

To the ancient Greeks, picking your new pup was an important decision, just as it is today. But, according to Stanford University researcher Adrienne Mayor, writing for Wonders & Marvels, the process could have been just a little bit different.

Like moderns, the ancients looked for an adventurous and friendly nature, but one test for selecting the pick of the litter seems rather heartless today. Let the mother choose for you, advises Nemesianus, a Roman expert on hunting dogs. Take away her puppies, surround them with an oil-soaked string and set it on fire. The mother will jump over the ring of flames and rescue each puppy, one by one, in order of their merit.

Mayor says that dogs were typically given short names that evoked ideas of things like power, speed, or beauty. Then again, the more things change, the more they seem to stay the same. According to Mayor,

Popular names for dogs in antiquity, translated from Greek, include Lurcher, Whitey, Blackie, Tawny, Blue, Blossom, Keeper, Fencer, Butcher, Spoiler, Hasty, Hurry, Stubborn, Yelp, Tracker, Dash, Happy, Jolly, Trooper, Rockdove, Growler, Fury, Riot, Lance, Pell-Mell, Plucky, Killer, Crafty, Swift, and Dagger.

(Excerpt) Read more at blogs.smithsonianmag.com ...


TOPICS: Hobbies; Pets/Animals
KEYWORDS: adriennemayor; dogs; godsgravesglyphs; greece; greeks; history; nemesianus

A mosaic of Hercules with pet Cerberus.

1 posted on 07/16/2012 10:01:03 PM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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To: afraidfortherepublic; SunkenCiv; Joe 6-pack

Ancient Doggie Ping


2 posted on 07/16/2012 10:02:04 PM PDT by afraidfortherepublic (ABO)
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To: afraidfortherepublic

There were dogs in those years? Who knew?


3 posted on 07/16/2012 10:04:12 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong!)
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To: afraidfortherepublic
Popular names for dogs in antiquity, translated from Greek, include Lurcher, Whitey, Blackie, Tawny, Blue, Blossom, Keeper, Fencer, Butcher, Spoiler, Hasty, Hurry, Stubborn, Yelp, Tracker, Dash, Happy, Jolly, Trooper, Rockdove, Growler, Fury, Riot, Lance, Pell-Mell, Plucky, Killer, Crafty, Swift, and Dagger.

What, no Wizzer?

4 posted on 07/16/2012 10:33:17 PM PDT by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: Still Thinking

I had a dog named Happy.

That is what I get for being asked what to name him when I was about 8 years old I guess.

The little guy looked like he was Happy to me.

Wow did that dog go through the wringer with me and my older brother. Great breed for that part of my life, an English Springer Spaniel.


5 posted on 07/16/2012 10:49:13 PM PDT by BookaT
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To: afraidfortherepublic

Interesting.

No mention of Kenyans that eat dogs though.


6 posted on 07/16/2012 11:11:41 PM PDT by quantim (Victory is not relative, it is absolute.)
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To: afraidfortherepublic

bookmark


7 posted on 07/16/2012 11:19:29 PM PDT by GOP Poet
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To: Revolting cat!

“There were dogs in those years? Who knew?”

Dogs are our oldest domesticated species. Some scientists believe the relationship between man and dog began as far back as 100,000 years ago. If true then man and dog literally evolved together.


8 posted on 07/16/2012 11:55:00 PM PDT by MtBaldy (If Obama is the answer, it must have been a really stupid question)
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To: BookaT

I had a dog named Happy when I was in high school.

Unfortunately we had to leave him with my Aunt and Uncle when we were away on Vacation.

He managed to dig his way out from under the garage (stone floor) and came looking for us.

We never got him back and I never found out what happened to him.


9 posted on 07/17/2012 12:17:19 AM PDT by dglang
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To: MtBaldy
I wonder what cave dogs looked like?

10 posted on 07/17/2012 1:03:39 AM PDT by Krankor
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To: afraidfortherepublic

“Here Arfimedes...C’mon, boy!”


11 posted on 07/17/2012 2:22:33 AM PDT by equaviator (There's nothing like the universe to bring you down to earth again.)
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To: BookaT

Our dog is an ESS. She’s 16 now, but she’s been by my son’s side since the day we got her.

He’s a grown man now, and she’s still sleeping in his bed. Best friends forever.


12 posted on 07/17/2012 2:53:46 AM PDT by Marie ("The last time Democrats gloated this hard after a health care victory, they lost 60 House seats.")
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To: afraidfortherepublic; StayAt HomeMother; Ernest_at_the_Beach; decimon; 1010RD; 21twelve; 24Karet; ..

 GGG managers are SunkenCiv, StayAt HomeMother & Ernest_at_the_Beach
Thanks afraidfortherepublic.

To all -- please ping me to other topics which are appropriate for the GGG list.


13 posted on 07/17/2012 3:51:40 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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http://www.stanford.edu/dept/HPS/Mayor.html

http://www.google.com/search?q=Adrienne+Mayor


14 posted on 07/17/2012 3:54:38 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: afraidfortherepublic

Reminds me of the old joke about the Indian boy who asked his father how people got their names.

His father replied: “Why do you ask two dogs f*&^ing?”


15 posted on 07/17/2012 3:55:30 AM PDT by IamConservative (Well done is better than well said. - Ben Franklin)
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To: Still Thinking

I don’t see Humper either. ;-)


16 posted on 07/17/2012 4:09:21 AM PDT by Average Al (Forbidden fruit leads to many jams.)
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To: SunkenCiv

Seems like there should be some adaptable methodology here for the political ring involving fire and oil.


17 posted on 07/17/2012 4:29:18 AM PDT by bigheadfred (MY PET TAPEWORM OBIWAN IS AN INSANE MILITARY HATING LEFTIST)
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To: IamConservative

My dad had three pups once. Blackie was the blackest, Brownie was the brownest, and Liberace was the pianist.


18 posted on 07/17/2012 4:33:57 AM PDT by eartrumpet
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To: Still Thinking

No “Cujo”, either...


19 posted on 07/17/2012 4:52:21 AM PDT by Tallguy (It's all 'Fun and Games' until somebody loses an eye!)
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To: eartrumpet

Did he ever have to jump over a ring of fire to save them? And if so, which was first?


20 posted on 07/17/2012 5:00:01 AM PDT by bigheadfred (MY PET TAPEWORM OBIWAN IS AN INSANE MILITARY HATING LEFTIST)
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To: IamConservative

Lol! One of my favorite jokes.


21 posted on 07/17/2012 5:05:16 AM PDT by Vinnie (A)
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To: equaviator

Good one.


22 posted on 07/17/2012 5:06:52 AM PDT by Vinnie (A)
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To: afraidfortherepublic

Dear Smithsonian, How can historians garner such information but not a simple BC, college record or medical history?


23 posted on 07/17/2012 5:12:29 AM PDT by InvisibleChurch ( if you love, you will not condemn, and if you condemn, you cannot love)
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To: afraidfortherepublic

Cerberus would be a great name for a dog, will need to keep that in mind for our next pup. We named the last one Julius Caesaer. it was hilarious when we took him to the doggy training school for his lesson and the trainers would all say, ALL HAIL!


24 posted on 07/17/2012 5:15:25 AM PDT by xsmommy
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To: BookaT

We used to raise English Springer Spaniels - there is no better breed (in my opinion) - great with kids! We now have our last one - Rosie - who is 12 years old and cannot hear at all and can barely see - still wags her tail and we love her!!


25 posted on 07/17/2012 5:30:08 AM PDT by Momto2 (I hate it when I wake up and Obama is President.......)
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To: AnAmericanMother; Titan Magroyne; Badeye; SandRat; arbooz; potlatch; afraidfortherepublic; ...
WOOOF!

The Doggie Ping list is for FReepers who would like to be notified of threads relating to all things canid. If you would like to join the Doggie Ping Pack (or be unleashed from it), FReemail me.

26 posted on 07/17/2012 5:47:13 AM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: Revolting cat!

“There were dogs in those years? Who knew?”

Back in the Roman days, they had “Beware of Canis (dog)” written on their front entrance tiles. Not only did they have dogs, they knew how to use them.


27 posted on 07/17/2012 6:11:44 AM PDT by BobL
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To: Krankor

That ain’t no dog. That’s one of them mutants from “Attack of the Killer Shrews”. IIRC, there’s a Doberman under that outfit somewhere.


28 posted on 07/17/2012 6:39:37 AM PDT by Malone LaVeigh
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To: BobL

"Cave canem" - beware of dog.

From the entrance of the House of the Tragic Poet, in Pompeii.

29 posted on 07/17/2012 6:44:40 AM PDT by AnAmericanMother (Ministrix of ye Chasse, TTGS Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment))
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To: afraidfortherepublic
The most famous of the Greek dogs was named Argos: meaning "quick" or "shining". It was also the name of the giant "all-seeing" who guarded the nymph Io, and the name of an ancient citadel in the Peloponessus.

Now as these two were conversing thus with each other, a dog who was lying there raised his head and ears. This was Argos, patient-hearted Odysseus' dog, whom he himself raised, but got no joy of him, since before that he went to sacred Ilium.

In the days before, the young men had taken him out to follow goats of the wild, and deer, and rabbits; but now he had been put aside, with his master absent, and lay on the deep pile of dung, from the mules and oxen, which lay abundant before the gates, so that the servants of Odysseus could take it to his great estate, for manuring.

There the dog Argos lay in the dung, all covered with dog ticks.

Now, as he perceived that Odysseus had come close to him, he wagged his tail, and laid both ears back; only he now no longer had the strength to move any closer to his master, who, watching him from a distance, without Eumaios noticing, secretly wiped a tear away, and said to him:

"Eumaios, this is amazing, this dog that lies on the dunghill. The shape of him is splendid, and yet I cannot be certain whether he had the running speed to go with this beauty, or is just one of the kind of table dog that gentlemen keep, and it is only for show that their masters care for them."

Then, O swineherd Eumaios, you said to him in answer: "This, it is too true, is the dog of a man who perished far away..."

So he spoke, and went into the strongly settled palace, and strode straight on, to the great hall and the haughty suitors.

But the doom of dark death now closed over the dog, Argos, when, after nineteen years had gone by, he had seen Odysseus.

Odyssey, Book XVII, trans. Richard Lattimore.

30 posted on 07/17/2012 7:05:34 AM PDT by AnAmericanMother (Ministrix of ye Chasse, TTGS Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment))
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To: xsmommy
"Cerberus would be a great name for a dog..."


31 posted on 07/17/2012 7:24:17 AM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: Joe 6-pack

that is HILARIOUS!


32 posted on 07/17/2012 7:25:25 AM PDT by xsmommy
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To: InvisibleChurch

Excellent point.


33 posted on 07/17/2012 8:14:03 AM PDT by afraidfortherepublic (ABO)
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To: AnAmericanMother

What a sad story. Argos would be a great name for a dog. Why argue with a classic?


34 posted on 07/17/2012 8:18:51 AM PDT by afraidfortherepublic (ABO)
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To: Still Thinking

Socrates spent the last day of his life talking to his pet Phido.


35 posted on 07/17/2012 8:41:56 AM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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To: Joe 6-pack

LOL!!


36 posted on 07/17/2012 8:45:25 AM PDT by freedomlover
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To: afraidfortherepublic

How Obama named his puppies: Breakfast, Lunch, Dinner, and Snack.


37 posted on 07/17/2012 10:05:48 AM PDT by mass55th (Courage is being scared to death - but saddling up anyway...John Wayne)
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To: equaviator

“Here Arfimedes...C’mon, boy!”

OK. That was funny.


38 posted on 07/17/2012 3:38:30 PM PDT by El Sordo (The bigger the government, the smaller the citizen.)
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To: Verginius Rufus
LOL! Socrates spoke Latin! Who knew?

(a very popular Scots Gaelic name for a dog is Dileas (pron. JEE-lahs). It means the same thing.)

39 posted on 07/17/2012 4:45:33 PM PDT by AnAmericanMother (Ministrix of ye Chasse, TTGS Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment))
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To: BookaT

I had a neighbor when I was a teenager, and their little boy named his dog “Job”. We wondered if he had plans to put it through a lot, or what.


40 posted on 07/17/2012 5:42:52 PM PDT by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: Joe 6-pack

Thats cute. =)


41 posted on 07/17/2012 6:23:51 PM PDT by Redcitizen (bumper sticker- 4 out of 3 people can't do math.)
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To: AnAmericanMother
I was trying to make a pun but it was a bit too obscure.

Plato's dialogue about Socrates' last day and his death is called the Phaedo after one of the men present on the occasion who is later reporting what Socrates said--in Greek the diphthong in Phaedo/Phaidon would sound like English long "i." The usual English pronunciation of "Phaedo" is "feedo" rather than "fido."

42 posted on 07/17/2012 7:53:30 PM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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To: Verginius Rufus
I got it. I was just pulling your chain a little bit.

4 years of Classical Greek, for my sins. Lowest grades I got in college.

43 posted on 07/18/2012 4:46:38 AM PDT by AnAmericanMother (Ministrix of ye Chasse, TTGS Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment))
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To: Joe 6-pack

Hi, could you remove me from the ping list please? I love the pings, but that graphic just kills me. Thanks.


44 posted on 07/18/2012 7:06:51 AM PDT by kimmie7 (I do not think BO is the antichrist, but he may very well be 665.)
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To: AnAmericanMother
Only two years as an undergraduate here, but we read the Phaedo in the original in the fourth semester.

Dareiou kai Parysatidos gignontai paides dyo... (opening line of Xenophon's Anabasis, the first text we read).

45 posted on 07/18/2012 7:33:00 AM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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To: Krankor

Screaming with fright!


46 posted on 07/19/2012 8:19:12 PM PDT by tob2 (November can't come soon enough for me.)
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To: Krankor; MtBaldy
"i wonder what cave dogs looked like"


47 posted on 08/27/2012 9:18:37 AM PDT by Cronos (**Marriage is about commitment, cohabitation is about convenience.**)
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