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Need Help with a question about the United States Marines. (Vanity)
need Infor ^ | July 18, 2012 | rem_mitchell

Posted on 07/18/2012 8:51:56 AM PDT by rem_mitchell

Can some of the Marines in the room please help me. My father passed away on Friday and I am writing his obituary and am having a bit of a conflict with my brother. My fatehr served in Korea. He was always very closed lipped about his service and only gave sparse information, usually while we poured over photographs and we came across one of him in Korea. He told me that he had volunteered for the Marines and went to Basic at Camp Pendleton. He became a medical corpsman, and I believe to do that he was sent to the navy for training, so he said he wore a Marine Uniform with Navy stripes. He always referred to himself as a Marine, but my brother is under the impression that we should state in his obituary that he was in the navy. I say he was a marine. Can the FR Marines help me?


TOPICS: Military/Veterans
KEYWORDS: marines

1 posted on 07/18/2012 8:52:00 AM PDT by rem_mitchell
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To: rem_mitchell

It’s your dad’s obit, you should call him what he would have wanted.


2 posted on 07/18/2012 8:57:57 AM PDT by stuartcr ("When silence speaks, it speaks only to those that have already decided what they want to hear.")
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Thewre is no such thing as a “Marine Corpsman”
The NAVY providesa ALL medical for the Marine Corps...a Navy Hospital Corpsman generally attended what is called “8404 school” AKA Field Medical training, and then is assigned to a Marine unit as their “Doc”...Your fater, if he was a corpsman, may have been a Marine in spirit, but not a U S Marine.


3 posted on 07/18/2012 8:59:41 AM PDT by MagUSNRET
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Sounds like your Dad was a Navy Corpsman attached to a Marine outfit. He was in the Navy not the Marines. However, I will tell you that we Marines treat our corpsman as if they are Marines. For instance, Navy Corpsman are the only ones other than Marines who are allowed to join the Marine Corps league as full members.

Condolences to you and your family.


4 posted on 07/18/2012 8:59:41 AM PDT by Old Teufel Hunden
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To: rem_mitchell

I would say he was Navy, as he was a Corpsman. But “Basic” at Camp Pendleton??? I don’t think so. Advanced Infantry, maybe?

My FiL was a Marine who served in Korea ‘52-’53. He did his Advanced Infantry Training at Pendelton before shipping over.


5 posted on 07/18/2012 9:01:25 AM PDT by Tallguy (It's all 'Fun and Games' until somebody loses an eye!)
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To: Old Teufel Hunden; All

Thanks for your help and kind words.


6 posted on 07/18/2012 9:02:16 AM PDT by rem_mitchell
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Do you have a copy of his DD-214? It will have the correct info on there & the funeral home will need a copy if you want military honors at funeral.


7 posted on 07/18/2012 9:02:53 AM PDT by stylecouncilor (Some minds are like soup in a poor restaurant...better left unstirred.-PG Wodehouse)
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My understanding is that the corpsman is technically in the Navy. Keep in mind that the Navy is the parent organization for the Marines and the Navy provides the medical hospitals and care for Marines worldwide. The Navy corpsman should be and is every bit as revered by Marines as any fellow Marine. He is out there on the front lines, in the heat of battle, risking his life to give life saving emergency aid to battle wounded Marines.


8 posted on 07/18/2012 9:03:32 AM PDT by iontheball
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To: rem_mitchell

The Navy corpsman are not Marines. But the Marines do not have their own medical services. So they use the Navy corpsman. Corpsman are allowed to wear Marine uniforms as long as they follow dress regulation and grooming. Instead of where it says US MARINES it will say US NAVY and they will not have the same enlisted rank chevrons as the marines do. Technically they are not Marines but are a part of the Fleet Marine Force.


9 posted on 07/18/2012 9:29:46 AM PDT by moonshot925
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To: rem_mitchell

Interesting thread.

I’m sorry for your loss.


10 posted on 07/18/2012 9:39:07 AM PDT by Winstons Julia (Hello OWS? We don't need a revolution like China's; China needs a revolution like OURS.)
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To: rem_mitchell
My condolences on the loss of your father. You must be very proud of him.

I also must say... I love FReepers! :) Ask a question about the US Military and immediately get half a dozen spot-on informative replies. Semper Fi


11 posted on 07/18/2012 9:39:53 AM PDT by MarineBrat (Better dead than red!)
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To: rem_mitchell
One more thing... if you're interested in your father's military history you can request his records from the National Archives.
12 posted on 07/18/2012 9:43:39 AM PDT by MarineBrat (Better dead than red!)
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Your dad was in the Navy. However, the Corpsmen too have an extremely proud tradition of service and bravery. Many a Marine, scared and in great pain, has been glad to see a Navy Corpsmen making his way to the Marine under great fire and attack. My cousin owes his life to a Navy corpsmen who performed open chest surgery in firefight conditions, during the second battle of Fallujah. God bless Navy corpsmen, and God bless the U.S. Marines. And God bless your father’s memory.


13 posted on 07/18/2012 9:46:27 AM PDT by righttackle44 (I may not be much, but I raised a United States Marine.)
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To: rem_mitchell

“He served in Korea with a Fleet Marine Force as a Navy Corpsman.” That might work. God bless your courageous father.


14 posted on 07/18/2012 9:48:15 AM PDT by GeorgeWashingtonsGhost
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To: rem_mitchell

You could also try looking here.

http://www.koreanwar.org/html/units/navy/corpsman.htm


15 posted on 07/18/2012 10:05:41 AM PDT by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: rem_mitchell

Definitely sounds like he was officially a Navy Corpsman. The Marines don’t have their own Corpsmen.


16 posted on 07/18/2012 10:09:10 AM PDT by AmericanSamurai
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First of all my condolences to you and your family for the loss of your father.....I agree with everyone else here that he was probably a Navy Corpsman......my sons are Marines and they have nothing but high praise for the Corpsman and consider them Marines.....your father may not have shared many stories but he served his country well and I appreciate and am thankful for men like your father......God Bless


17 posted on 07/18/2012 10:22:38 AM PDT by Kimmers (Fair isn't everybody getting the same thing, fair is getting what you need to be successful)
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To: stylecouncilor

Dittoes on your comments on the DD-214.

Getting one can be complex. If you have trouble getting one, call some VA Veterans assistance offices.


18 posted on 07/18/2012 10:28:28 AM PDT by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This Means Liberals and (L)libertarians! Same Thing. NO LIBS!!)
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To: rem_mitchell
Respects to you and condolences for your loss...

Speaking for myself, I am a prior U.S. Marine, but I inter-service transferred into the Navy to become a Corpsman, (and subsequently retired from the Navy)

Your father was every bit a Marine (more so for his service during Korea) but in reality a FMF (Fleet Marine Force) Corpsman.

The greatest honor for a Corpsman is to be called "Doc" by his Marines.

But as previously suggested find his dd214, that will settle the question.....

Semper Fi!

19 posted on 07/18/2012 10:31:59 AM PDT by SERE_DOC ( “The beauty of the Second Amendment is that it will not be needed until they try to take it.” TJ.)
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Thanks again to all who have responded so kindly. Your expertise has been very helpful.


20 posted on 07/18/2012 10:38:16 AM PDT by rem_mitchell
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To: rem_mitchell
The guys here have set you straight on this. My dad was a Corpsman during WWII in the Pacific Campaign. Pharmacists Mate or something. He wore Marine utilities and I think (he is gone now) Marine dress uniforms with a different rank insignia.

They were very tight with their units, but they did not attend Marine boot camp, but navy training.

21 posted on 07/18/2012 12:57:41 PM PDT by doorgunner69
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Sounds like a Corpsman. They can wear the USMC uni with the Navy devices. They are an honored part of every Marine unit, though, I assure you.


22 posted on 07/18/2012 6:24:30 PM PDT by USMCWife6869
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