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Vanity: A Convenient Crime
Me | 7/20/2012 | TheRuralDisenfranchised

Posted on 07/20/2012 3:19:37 PM PDT by TheRuralDisenfranchised



TOPICS: Conspiracy
KEYWORDS: coloradoshooting; leftistmedia; noob; stagedshooting; ungunban
Does anyone else smell a rat? When I awoke this morning, the first thing that I saw when I turned on my computer was the news of the Colorado shooting. I immediately found the convenience of this shooting fitting, as our government has used this kind of ploy before. Obama is planning to sign the U.N Gun Ban on the 27th, and yet, not one mention of this by our leftist media. This crime event will be used when the conversation finally turns to the treaty signing.
1 posted on 07/20/2012 3:19:46 PM PDT by TheRuralDisenfranchised
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To: TheRuralDisenfranchised

That was my reflex reaction too. I didn’t think of the treaty first, I thought of that new movie - Obama 2016. Scare the people out of the theaters... Shame that our first instinct is to suspect our own government.


2 posted on 07/20/2012 3:24:50 PM PDT by nolongerademocrat ("Before you ask G-d for something, first thank G-d for what you already have." B'rachot 30b)
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To: TheRuralDisenfranchised
Ricky does have a past history of mass murdering American Citizens.

Thank you GW for not prosecuting them when you had the chance. /s

3 posted on 07/20/2012 3:25:47 PM PDT by rawcatslyentist ("Behold, I am against you, O arrogant one," Jeremiah 50:31)
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To: rawcatslyentist

Being willing to do it to Mexicans with F&F to advance gun grabbing, there’s no reason he’d not be happy to do it here for the same reason. It’s really surprising that the MSM has come up with so little background on Holmes and his political activities so far. If he’d been a Tea Partier and an NRA member they’d have had it all by now. There’s also some serious history there since his mother so so quick to identify him as the shooter. What does she know???


4 posted on 07/20/2012 3:36:43 PM PDT by libstripper
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To: TheRuralDisenfranchised

So you signed up minutes ago to post this troll thread.

Way to go.


5 posted on 07/20/2012 3:38:42 PM PDT by ansel12 (Massachusetts Governors,,, where the GOP goes for it's "conservative" Presidential candidates.)
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To: libstripper

Most Terrorists Look Nothing Like You Imagined
Ashley Lutz | May 17, 2012, 12:10 PM | 574 | 1

Here’s What We Know So Far About The Terror Attack In Bulgaria

UPDATE: Swedish and Bulgarian Officials Deny That This Swedish Extremist Was The Bus Suicide Bomber

Reported Victim In The Colorado Shooting Wrote A Chilling Blog Post A Month Ago On Witnessing A Shooting

Most terrorists are highly educated, employed and a native of the country where they attack.
This goes against previous studied portraying terrorists as isolated from their communities and vulnerable to brainwashing, according to a recent study by Karen Jacques and Paul J. Taylor published by the American Psychological Association.
The study cites Muriel Degauque, a college-educated Belgium woman from a supportive community who converted to Islam and detonated a bomb that killed five people. The community was confused because she was well-liked and amiable.
And far from the stereotype that they’re social outcasts, terrorists are likely to be married, according to the study.
The researchers examined biographical data on 222 female and 269 male terrorists connected to one of 13 conflicts involving nationalist-separatists, social revolutionaries or religious fundamentalists, including al Qaeda, the Irish Republican Army and the Popular Liberation Army of Colombia.
The study’s median age for female terrorists was 22.6, for males it was 22.2.

Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/most-terrorists-are-nothing-like-you-imagined-2012-5#ixzz21CMHAV2s


6 posted on 07/20/2012 3:42:01 PM PDT by STD ([You must help] people in the…feel so frustrated, so defeated, so lost, so futureless)
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To: TheRuralDisenfranchised

The DUmmies used to say the same thing about Bush when things like this would happen. I’d hope that we aren’t as delusional and paranoid as they are.


7 posted on 07/20/2012 3:44:12 PM PDT by Paradox (I want Obama defeated. Period.)
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To: Paradox

Brainwashed - New Generation of American Terrorists

Author RSS Spam

It seems as though Major Nidal Hasan has sparked a new breed of revolutionary terrorists when he went on a rampage, killing 13 Americans in the murderous killings that has become known as the Fort Hood shootings.

Two young American men from New Jersey, who were identified as Mohamed Mahmood Alessa, 20, and Carlos Eduardo Almonte, 24, had no known connections to terrorist groups, were on their way to Somalia in an effort to seek terror training from al-Qaida jihadists to attack other Americans were arrested at Kennedy Airport in New York.

What is known of these two young men is that they were not very knowledgeable about the serious endeavor of becoming a member of an al-Qaida terrorist operation. The only preparations they made consisted of lifting weights, buying military-style pants and water bottles, playing violent video games and watching terrorist videos online. They had no connections in Somalia and they couldnt speak the language, but nevertheless, they were intent on becoming terrorists and killing Americans.

Obsessed with becoming a better terrorist than Nidal Hasan, the army psychiatrist accused of killing 13 people at Fort Hood, Texas, authorities say that Alessa and Almonte were recorded having conversations about attacking Americans and Alessa was recorded saying of Major Nidal Hasan, Hes not better than me. Ill do twice what he did.

What could possibly generate so much hatred for America by an American that one would be willing to kill innocent people, trading freedom for terrorism?

It is believed that Alessa and Almonte are just two men among many want-to-be terrorists who were inspired by two well-known U.S. citizens who have recruited terrorists through the Internet. Anwar al-Awlaki and IAdam Gadahn, both radical al-Qaida members who are believed to have helped inspire recent attacks on America, which include the Fort Hood shootings, the Times Square bombings attempt and the failed Christmas Day airline bombing.

Being on the lookout for foreign terrorist is one thing, but to have to identify other Americans as terrorist threats is a bit farfetched. Like it or not, this new generation of American self-made terrorists is fast becoming a reality.

Could it be possible that there is some type of brainwashing technique at work among Americans who fall for the foolishness of Islamic radicals? How are radical jihadist terrorists able to influence people of free democracy with such impact? Last November, Alessa was recorded telling Almonte that lots of people needed to be killed. He said, My soul cannot rest until I shed blood. I wanna like, be the worlds known terrorist

People choose to believe whatever they want to believe and since religion is based on belief, or faith, there is a lot of room for ignorance. What I mean is much of religion, any religion, cannot be proven; it must be accepted by faith. 72 virgins for killing an innocent human, I find that mind boggling and I would have to be brainwashed to even want 72 virgins; one wife is enough for me.

Three years ago Alessa and Almonte traveled to Jordan and tried to get into Iraq, but they were rejected by jihadists. The two men were obviously under the influence of some brainwashing power to believe that they would be accepted as terrorists by jihad extremists; added to the fact that they continued in their plan even though they knew law enforcement was on to them, as if to say, were going to do this anyway.

My take on this whole episode boils down to hate. If you hate your own people you really dont love yourself. It is true that America has problems, and lots of them, but thats what makes us family. Only a person who is not thinking clearly will hate family enough to kill them.

Authorities say Alessa told an officer as early as last year, I leave this time. God willing, I never come back. Only way I would come back here is if I was in the land of jihad and the leader ordered me to come back here and do something here. Ah, I love that.

It is stories like this one that encourage jihadists to recruit Americans to kill Americans. Sadly, government cannot control whether or not we will love each other as an American family, but if we had stricter laws that would address such crimes, perhaps we would be able to discourage Americans from desiring to kill other Americans.


8 posted on 07/20/2012 3:47:59 PM PDT by STD ([You must help] people in the…feel so frustrated, so defeated, so lost, so futureless)
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To: ansel12

Troll thread or not its prolly true. This has every earmark of another false flag event.

Have you ever tried to kick open the steel door of a movie theatre? Witnesses have reported seeing a man talking on a cell phone go to that door and fool with it a few minutes before Holmes came through.

Where did this loser get the gas mask, tear gas and get past the cops you know were posted all over that premiere. A former cop who is familiar with that theatre says it is always heavily securitized. Plus the whole area is predominantly black and so is the movie plex. Now you are expected to believe this guy just decided to go live in a black neighborhood and shoot up a black movie theatre.

Holmes was involved in a govt run neuro research program and on and on and on.

The whole thing screams false flag.


9 posted on 07/20/2012 3:49:29 PM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: Georgia Girl 2

[ Holmes was involved in a govt run neuro research program and on and on and on.

The whole thing screams false flag. ]

Alex Jones stated a similar theory.


10 posted on 07/20/2012 3:52:26 PM PDT by GraceG
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To: TheRuralDisenfranchised
I'll call it. “Prayer” = moment of silence. Ergo, 0bama is ‘religious.’ “Guns are bad” and F&F must be dismissed = unexplained ‘event.’

“By any means necessary”

I call Black Swan.

The Loughner expression.
White.
Drop-out.
Parents knew of mental issues.
Specific location was/was right by a “gun-free”zone.
Theater had

“Cinemark No Firearms Policy”
Robert Farago
July 20, 2012
http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2012/07/robert-farago/cinemark-theaters-no-legal-firearms-allowed/


"DHS Warned About Threats In Movie Theaters

The Department of Homeland Security in a May 17, 2012 memo, warned that American movie theaters were increasingly likely targets for terrorist attacks, primarily because they packed many people into one tightly confined place.

An early April 2012 suicide bombing of a theater in Somalia and a violent extremist communication advocating attacks on US theaters highlight terrorists’ continued interest in attacking such venues. Although we have no specific or credible information indicating that terrorists plan to attack theaters in the United States, terrorists may seek to emulate overseas attacks on theaters here in the United States because they have the potential to inflict mass casualties and cause local economic damage.

Colorado police have said that the Aurora killings do not appear to be linked to terrorist activity.

— Sam Stein”

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/07/20/century-16-shooting-aurora-cancels-showtimes_n_1689626.html?1342798512#111_dhs-warned-about-threats-in-movie-theaters

“Cinemark Theaters’ No Firearms Policy

Posted on July 20, 2012 by Robert Farago

“Headquartered in Plano, TX, Cinemark Holdings, Inc. is a leader in the motion picture exhibition industry with 459 theatres and 5,181 screens in the U.S. and Latin America as of March 31, 2012,” their website reports. Cinemark owns the Century 16 movie theater in Aurora, Colorado, scene of last night’s mass shooting. Cinemark doesn’t allow anyone other than law enforcement officers to carry legal firearms in their theaters. The ban hadn’t escape the attention of some of Cinemark’s law-abiding, gun-toting customers—even before last night’s homicidal frenzy. Make the jump for the story of a Cinemark patron ejected from the cinema for Open Carrying [via defensivecarry.com] . . .

A friend and I decided to go see Law Abiding Citizen [in Anchorage Alaska] after attending a local 2nd Amendment organization Banquet. We were already open carrying from the Banquet so we didn’t bother putting on our jackets. We made our way into the theater and stood in line to purchase our tickets, so far there wasn’t any problems.

I was OCing my 1911, my friend was OCing his G22, and we purchased our tickets and made our way to the theater so we could get good seats. As we near our theater two managers a male and female come out of nowhere and the conversation goes something like this . . .

Manager: Excuse me guys but firearms are not allowed in here, you’ll have to put them in your vehicle.

My friend: Really when did that happen, I’ve carried here many times with no problem, well we’d like to see your policy on that please!

Manager: Okay come with me

We followed the manager up to the ticket counter and he showed us this small cardboard sign that said “NO FIREARMS ALLOWED” at the very bottom. We told the manager that we wished to receive a full refund and we would not be returning to the theater in the future. He said nothing, and we were given our refunds with no further problems . . .

We ended up going to a shopping mall that has a theater inside and we were able to see our movie without being asked to leave . . .

This is indeed the slight inconvenience we put up with, but I really feel if enough people got behind this “no guns = no money” that businesses would change their policies real quick. However I don’t see that happening anytime soon because most people are too lazy to take a stand.

Over at forum.opencarry.org, commentator thx997303 also had words with Cinemark about their weapons policy, this time at the corporate level.

I sent an e-mail to Cinemark Corporate to inquire as to their policy on firearms.

I got a call today, from Dan Myers with Cinemark Corporate, and he informed me that Cinemark’s official policy is that ONLY LEO’S CAN CARRY INTO THEIR THEATERS

NO CONCEALED WEAPONS, NO OC.

He asked me that we not send e-mails to tell them their policy sucks.

There are other similar encounters on the net. Suffice it to say, gun owners should think twice about giving their money to companies that don’t respect their Second Amendment right to keep and bear arms. And think even more carefully about being in crowded public places where they can’t carry.”

http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2012/07/robert-farago/cinemark-theaters-no-legal-firearms-allowed/

AmmoLand Gun News

Manasquan, NJ —(Ammoland.com)- As far back as 2009 pro gun activists had made Cinemark management aware that their NO Guns Policy was just creating a gun free zone where only the inncent and lawabiding would be unarmed.

“Headquartered in Plano, TX, Cinemark Holdings, Inc. is a leader in the motion picture exhibition industry with 459 theatres and 5,181 screens in the U.S. and Latin America as of March 31, 2012,” their website reports.

Cinemark owns the Century 16 movie theater in Aurora, Colorado, scene of last night’s mass shooting. Cinemark doesn’t allow anyone other than law enforcement officers to carry legal firearms in their theaters.

The ban hadn’t escape the attention of some of Cinemark’s law-abiding, gun-toting customers—even before last night’s homicidal frenzy…”

Read more at TheTruthAboutGuns.com “Cinemark Theaters No Firearms Policy” http://tiny.cc/lf8qhw

Distributed to you by - AmmoLand.com – The Shooting Sports News source.”

Read more at Ammoland.com: http://www.ammoland.com/2012/07/20/cinemark-theaters-was-on-notice-their-no-guns-policy-was-a-gun-free-killing-zone/#ixzz21CTAE377 And the WH > Message > Brian Ross > ABC > Tea Party. In minutes and on early morning show. RIGHT ON CUE. This was ready to roll.

11 posted on 07/20/2012 4:12:14 PM PDT by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spiritui Sancto.)
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To: TheRuralDisenfranchised

I agree that the Left will use this in the hope of limiting or banning second amendment rights. If Obama is re-elected, I think he will start the process of banning guns.


12 posted on 07/20/2012 4:15:08 PM PDT by SaraJohnson
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To: TheRuralDisenfranchised

I don’t see the Senate ratifying that treaty. But this event gives Obama a reset on the campaign.


13 posted on 07/20/2012 7:03:18 PM PDT by Mike Darancette (Obamaid has to go.)
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To: combat_boots

sfl


14 posted on 07/20/2012 7:08:22 PM PDT by phockthis (http://www.supremelaw.org/fedzone11/index.htm ...)
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To: libstripper
He is not a Tea Partier but theỵ̣̣ - Brian Ross and ABC - came up with the "information" that he is within minutes.
15 posted on 07/20/2012 7:49:37 PM PDT by arthurus (Read Hazlitt's Economics In One Lesson)
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To: ansel12

I signed up, and said my what I had to say.


16 posted on 07/21/2012 7:48:45 AM PDT by TheRuralDisenfranchised
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To: ansel12

Troll thread? I don’t think so!


17 posted on 07/21/2012 7:48:53 AM PDT by TheRuralDisenfranchised
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