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(Vavavooom!) 600-year-old bra and underwear discovered in an Austrian castle
IO9 ^ | Jul 18, 2012 | Annalee Newitz

Posted on 07/20/2012 10:24:09 PM PDT by DogByte6RER

600-year-old bra and underwear discovered in an Austrian castle

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Contemporary bras are more comfortable, modified versions of corsets — or so it was believed, until a 2007 discovery changed the way we see women's underwear. Working with a team of her colleagues, archaeologist Beatrix Nutz recently publicized her discovery of several linen bras and some underwear in a medieval castle.

Nutz has presented academic papers about her discovery, and even analyzed the underwear for DNA (see picture). But the public didn't hear about the medieval bras until a BBC history program showed pictures of them. Nutz and colleagues also found a pair of men's underwear (pictured below) — apparently medieval women wore no panties.

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What this means is that women were wearing bras long before the invention of corsets. So corsets have been revealed as the uncomfortable, restrictive version of bras. Does that mean the middle ages were actually a more liberal time than the corset-obsessed eighteenth and nineteenth centuries?

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TOPICS: Chit/Chat; History; Miscellaneous; Science; Society; Weird Stuff
KEYWORDS: ancienthistory; anthropology; archaeology; austria; beatrixnutz; bra; corset; godsgravesglyphs; lingerie; medieval; skivvies; talesfromthecrypt; underwear
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To: DogByte6RER

Helen Thomas has been looking for them!


21 posted on 07/20/2012 11:17:21 PM PDT by Slump Tester (What if I'm pregnant Teddy? Errr-ahh -Calm down Mary Jo, we'll cross that bridge when we come to it)
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To: DogByte6RER

She looks medieval, even Neanderthal.


22 posted on 07/20/2012 11:19:51 PM PDT by citizencon
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To: DogByte6RER
they wore something during their periods.. Blood dripping down the legs were quite uncomfortable I am guessing..
23 posted on 07/20/2012 11:41:45 PM PDT by goat granny
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To: Ken522

Posting w/o reading? Those are man panities. Medieval women went commando back then.


24 posted on 07/20/2012 11:59:43 PM PDT by Valpal1
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To: DogByte6RER

No offense but... I for one am not buying it! 600 years old you got to be kidding me! IMHO it would be a stretch to say that this came from maybe just maybe the civil war era. But I’d say closer to the turn of the last century??

I think this kind of stuff belongs in the tabloid news myself. Given the the level of distraction, misdirection, lies and half truths it would probably make front page on most left wing rag newspapers across the country and headline news on NBC,ABC,CBS,CNN and pMSNBS.


25 posted on 07/21/2012 12:15:19 AM PDT by Mier (Liberalism always generates the exact opposite of its stated intent!! "Jim Quinn")
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To: arderkrag
No panties, huh? Well, that settles it, if we ever develop time travel, I’m jumping back to the “First Bra Age”

I hope you realize that people bathed very infrequently back then and feminine hygiene was crude at best

26 posted on 07/21/2012 12:53:12 AM PDT by Isabel C.
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To: DogByte6RER
Working with a team of her colleagues, archaeologist Beatrix Nutz recently publicized her discovery of several linen bras and some underwear in a medieval castle.

With a name like Nutz, I'd think she would be studying medieval jock straps.

By the way, I don't think those were Wonderbras she found; probably Iron Maidens.

27 posted on 07/21/2012 1:00:06 AM PDT by seowulf ("If you write a whole line of zeroes, it's still---nothing"...Kira Alexandrovna Argounova)
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To: DogByte6RER

600 year old skid marks!


28 posted on 07/21/2012 1:15:47 AM PDT by JaguarXKE (If my Fluffy had a puppy, it would look like the puppy Obama ate!)
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To: DogByte6RER; mikrofon; Charles Henrickson
(Vavavooom!) 600-year-old bra and underwear discovered in an Austrian castle

Ich bin ein bralearner.

29 posted on 07/21/2012 3:02:58 AM PDT by martin_fierro (Bea Nutz)
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To: DogByte6RER; Charles Henrickson; mikrofon
What this means is that women were wearing bras long before the invention of corsets.

Wunderbra!

30 posted on 07/21/2012 3:05:05 AM PDT by martin_fierro (Bea Nutz)
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To: DogByte6RER; Lazamataz

31 posted on 07/21/2012 3:18:30 AM PDT by martin_fierro (Bea Nutz)
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To: martin_fierro

Looks like something Janet Jackson would wear on the Super Bowl Halftime Show.


32 posted on 07/21/2012 3:26:44 AM PDT by Mad Dawgg (If you're going to deny my 1st Amendment rights then I must proceed to the 2nd one...)
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To: DogByte6RER

I knew I would come across a picture of Helen of Troy in this thread.


33 posted on 07/21/2012 4:15:15 AM PDT by Rocky (Obama is pure evil)
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To: Mad Dawgg

It was just a wardrobe malfunction.


34 posted on 07/21/2012 4:16:43 AM PDT by Rocky (Obama is pure evil)
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To: goat granny
Women of child-bearing age were starving and/or pregnant their entire lives up until very recently in human history. They usually died well before the age of 40 and often during one of their many pregnancies. Periods were the exception in a female’s life rather than the norm.

Barren women may have had periods but they were usually killed or abandoned. Especially less attractive ones that wouldn't be taken care of by a powerful man with multiple fertile women to make up for it. No babies or eye candy meant the woman was a drain on resources.

Also, people were far less clean so some blood on the legs would have been barely noticed. No running water, no toilet paper, lots of flies, fleas, etc. In some societies people never bathed at all. Even in the Europe of a couple hundred years ago, people took a bath once a year and it was a huge occasion.

We truly have come a long way, baby...

35 posted on 07/21/2012 5:51:06 AM PDT by varyouga
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To: varyouga

since fabric was hard to come by your clothes usually rotted off you. they used wool and linen a lot which, at least, are good fabrics. when the industrial revolution started and fabric was produced on the big looms and not by hand on the small looms, fabric was a lot cheaper. people started to be cleaner because they had a change of clothes, but nothing like today. We have so many advantages over our ancestors—they must have been a hardy lot, the ones that survived. Many people are alive today who would have easily died 200 plus years ago.


36 posted on 07/21/2012 6:04:19 AM PDT by Taffini ( Mr. Pippen and Mr. Waffles do not approve and neither do I)
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To: Isabel C.

I’ll take a fire truck with me and hose everything down. Failing that, a thousand pressure washers should take care of the problem. Maybe I’l change the course of history with - GASP - shampoo.


37 posted on 07/21/2012 6:24:20 AM PDT by arderkrag (ABOs are Romneybot trolls. LOOKING FOR ROLEPLAYERS. Check Profile.)
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To: DogByte6RER; StayAt HomeMother; Ernest_at_the_Beach; decimon; 1010RD; 21twelve; 24Karet; ...

 GGG managers are SunkenCiv, StayAt HomeMother & Ernest_at_the_Beach
Thanks DogByte6RER.

Please, I beg all of you, no Helen Thomas jokes.

To all -- please ping me to other topics which are appropriate for the GGG list.


38 posted on 07/21/2012 6:31:03 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: martin_fierro
archaeologist Beatrix Nutz

39 posted on 07/21/2012 6:35:17 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: arderkrag

———but no panties-——

The fallacy in the article is that the fact panties or pantaloons were not found does not mean they did not exist.


40 posted on 07/21/2012 6:43:33 AM PDT by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... Present failure and impending death yield irrational action))
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