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Joe Paterno statue taken down
ESPN ^ | 7/22/2012 | Don Van Natta Jr.

Posted on 07/22/2012 10:59:10 AM PDT by Morgana

The Joe Paterno statue was removed Sunday morning from its pedestal outside Beaver Stadium, and it will be stored in an unnamed "secure location," Penn State president Rodney Erickson announced. Erickson also said the Paterno name will remain on the university's library.

Shortly before dawn in State College, Pa., a work crew installed chain-link fences to barricade access to Porter Road outside Beaver Stadium and covered the fence with a blue tarp.

The work crew then removed the 7-foot, 900-pound bronze statue by forklift and placed it into the lower level of the stadium. Erickson released his highly sensitive decision to the public at 7 a.m. ET Sunday.

Workers lifted the 7-foot-tall statue off its base and used a forklift to move it into Beaver Stadium as the 100 to 150 students watched, some chanting, "We are Penn State."

The decision came 10 days after a scathing report by former FBI director Louis J. Freeh found that Paterno, with three other top Penn State administrators, had concealed allegations of child sexual abuse made against former defensive coordinator Jerry Sandusky. The Freeh report concluded their motive was to shield the university and its football program from negative publicity.

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Melt it at the local scrap yard!
1 posted on 07/22/2012 10:59:22 AM PDT by Morgana
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To: Morgana

Hey on ESPN they call it for death penalty they may get their wish ABOUT TIME NCAA DUH


2 posted on 07/22/2012 11:02:03 AM PDT by SevenofNine (We are Freepers, all your media bases belong to us ,resistance is futile)
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To: Morgana

This is a great message to send to the American people. We will not honor those without the principles to protect the innocent. Cowards of this magnitude deserve no honor!


3 posted on 07/22/2012 11:05:24 AM PDT by bondserv (God governs our universe and has seen fit to offer us a pardon.)
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To: Morgana

4 posted on 07/22/2012 11:05:48 AM PDT by stormer
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To: Morgana

This is why you should never put up a statue of a then-living person.


5 posted on 07/22/2012 11:06:55 AM PDT by dfwgator (FUJR (not you, Jim))
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To: Morgana

Knowing Pedo State, they’ll probably replace it with a statue of an anatomically-correct pre-teen boy.


6 posted on 07/22/2012 11:07:45 AM PDT by Old Sarge (We are now officially over the precipice, we just havent struck the ground yet)
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To: Morgana

The other side of the story:

http://www.nydailynews.com/blogs/iteam/2012/07/paterno-family-statement-on-penn-states-decision-to-remove-joe-paterno-statue


7 posted on 07/22/2012 11:12:56 AM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: Morgana

Put it on a float for the gay parade.


8 posted on 07/22/2012 11:13:43 AM PDT by Berlin_Freeper
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To: Uncle Chip

Spare me the sob story


9 posted on 07/22/2012 11:15:16 AM PDT by surroundedbyblue (Live the message of Fatima - pray & do penance!)
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To: dfwgator

I feel the same way about naming Navy ships. I would make an exception for Ronald Reagan as he was seriously ill and could not defend himself or actively promote anything.


10 posted on 07/22/2012 11:16:27 AM PDT by yarddog
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To: Morgana

There will be plenty of Freepers who will be defending JoePa.

In 3...2...1...


11 posted on 07/22/2012 11:16:27 AM PDT by surroundedbyblue (Live the message of Fatima - pray & do penance!)
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To: Morgana

“Erickson’s decision comes at an especially sensitive time for the university. Trustees and administrators are the subject of an NCAA investigation, and several trustees have said that if the statue remained it could weigh as a negative symbol in the NCAA’s discussions on a punishment for the football program.”

It’s still all about football and money!!!


12 posted on 07/22/2012 11:17:14 AM PDT by vette6387
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To: Morgana
Ever-innovative Penn State does the first ever "perp walk in effigy":


13 posted on 07/22/2012 11:19:09 AM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: Berlin_Freeper

The media has downplayed the homosexuality angle of this story, and of other cases such as the Catholic priests.

I was banned from another site, when I commented at how sickening homosexual rape is, and that Sandusky committed homosexual rape. I was flamed by other commenters, saying that child abuse is bad, no matter the gender of the perpetrator or the victim, etc. Then I was kicked off the site.

Hopefully here, we’re allowed to call a spade a spade. Sandusky committed unspeakable homosexual crimes against boys.

Due to the liberal bent of the media, you will never hear this case spoken of as a case of homosexual child abuse. The media only presents a “gay” image of homosexuality, and will never report anything that reflects badly on that community.

The majority of Catholic priests cases of child abuse were against boys and young men, but the media always talked of that scandal as child abuse in general terms, without ever specifying who the victims were.

In this media, we can air unsubstantiated reports that a mass shooter allegedly is tied to the Tea Party, but you cannot tie a child rapist to homosexuality.


14 posted on 07/22/2012 11:19:36 AM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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To: Old Sarge

Actions like this bring hope that the tide can turn. Two verses come to mind.

Jam 1:17
Every good gift and every perfect gift is from above, and comes down from the Father of lights, with whom there is no variation or shadow of turning.

Rom 8:28
And we know that all things work together for good to those who love God, to those who are the called according to [His] purpose


15 posted on 07/22/2012 11:19:36 AM PDT by bondserv (God governs our universe and has seen fit to offer us a pardon.)
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To: Uncle Chip

“The family that molests together......”

I am playing the world’s smallest violin for them right now and here it is ———————>


16 posted on 07/22/2012 11:21:49 AM PDT by Morgana (This space for rent. Cheap.)
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To: Uncle Chip
Amazing how the Paterno family has found a sudden passion for serving the victims and community by uncovering the full truth.

Maybe they can help find Nicole Brown-Simpson's real killer while they're at it.

17 posted on 07/22/2012 11:25:12 AM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: Morgana

I remember (I think it was back in the 1980s) when there was talk of Paterno retiring. He ended the talk by saying “I don’t want to leave college football to the likes of people like Barry Switzer”. Or something close to that. All I can say is how ironic!!


18 posted on 07/22/2012 11:25:36 AM PDT by 429CJ (.)
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To: surroundedbyblue
Spare me the sob story

That's okay -- go ahead -- rush to judgment.

It's not like any indictment or report by Louis Freeh or a government commission or a state prosecutor was ever wrong.

19 posted on 07/22/2012 11:25:36 AM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: Uncle Chip

So then by your estimation, Paterno must have been the dumbest man alive if he didn’t know what was going on among his own staff? Rrrrriiiiiigggghhhhtttttt.

As I said before, spare me.


20 posted on 07/22/2012 11:29:49 AM PDT by surroundedbyblue (Live the message of Fatima - pray & do penance!)
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To: 429CJ

If Sandusky was on Switzer’s coaching staff, and Switzer found out about it, Switzer would have strangled Sandusky with his bare hands.


21 posted on 07/22/2012 11:31:12 AM PDT by dfwgator (FUJR (not you, Jim))
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To: Uncle Chip; surroundedbyblue

Rush to judgment?

Judgment has been passed. Sandusky raped the little boys while JoePa just stood by and let him. That came out in the trial by way of testimony for that grad student McQueary.

JoePa is just as guilty for not stopping it.


22 posted on 07/22/2012 11:33:09 AM PDT by Morgana (This space for rent. Cheap.)
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To: Morgana
Wow. Here's this guy who's been almost a "gxd" at Penn State for decades and now all of a sudden everything has reversed completely. Now this "gxd" is having his statue removed.

Gives me hope that we might (at least theoretically) be able to undo the current administration!

23 posted on 07/22/2012 11:33:28 AM PDT by Zionist Conspirator (Ki-hagoy vehamamlakhah 'asher lo'-ya`avdukh yove'du; vehagoyim charov yecheravu!)
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To: dfwgator

“If Sandusky was on Switzer’s coaching staff, and Switzer found out about it, Switzer would have strangled Sandusky with his bare hands.”

Not having known either Switzer or JoePa before all this happened I am so glad to hear that about Switzer. At least one coach out there had morals.


24 posted on 07/22/2012 11:35:06 AM PDT by Morgana (This space for rent. Cheap.)
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To: Morgana
After that VERY public threat by someone who paid for that flying banner behind an airplane flying over the Penn State campus saying they would do something about that statue, it didn't take long for the statue to be quickly removed out of fear someone was going to blow it up or seriously damage it in some way. The tragedy in Aurora, CO a few nights ago may have hastened that decision, in my humble opinion.
25 posted on 07/22/2012 11:38:09 AM PDT by RayChuang88 (FairTax: America's economic cure)
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To: Morgana

Too bad he didn’t live to see this.


26 posted on 07/22/2012 11:38:43 AM PDT by eddie willers
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To: surroundedbyblue

Is the Paterno family not entitled to their response to the charges??? Even Sandusky was given his day in court.


27 posted on 07/22/2012 11:41:25 AM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: Uncle Chip
In most rushes to judgment, there are other motives involved. While this story has been public for a number of months, it appears there is a motivation to contain any blame for a cover up solely to those at PSU.

As has been questioned here and elsewhere, why is it that coach Sandusky never received any known offers to coach at other universities after his retirement?

I have a hunch that if the truth were fully exposed, there could be hundreds of people from various universities who likely had some knowledge of Sandusky’s actions.

28 posted on 07/22/2012 11:46:21 AM PDT by Rational Thought
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To: Uncle Chip

Uncle Chip - thanks for posting ‘the other side of the story.’ I stand with the family. There has been no due process. Very convenient to blame one dead person, who cannot be ‘innocent until proven guilty.’ There are still administrators and powers that be AT Penn State who were part of the cover-up. JP was not the President of Penn State, and he is not the only person involved in this.

Due process. Innocent until proven guilty. I am sorry the statue was taken down.

flame away


29 posted on 07/22/2012 11:46:58 AM PDT by bboop (Without justice, what else is the State but a great band of robbers? St. Augustine)
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To: 429CJ
He ended the talk by saying “I don’t want to leave college football to the likes of people like Barry Switzer”

Paterno made that remark in 1985.

As the fates would have it, Joe's Penn State team wound up having to play Switzer's Sooners in the Orange Bowl for the National Championship.

I think the Sooners (who won) didn't let Joe forget that remark.

30 posted on 07/22/2012 11:52:09 AM PDT by Ole Okie
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To: Uncle Chip

The Paterno Family is not on trial.


31 posted on 07/22/2012 11:56:59 AM PDT by dfwgator (FUJR (not you, Jim))
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32 posted on 07/22/2012 11:57:46 AM PDT by randita (Either the politicians fix our fiscal insanity, or the markets will.)
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To: bboop; Uncle Chip; All

The mindlessness of you two clowns amazes me.

In your Paterno-worshiping world, had you walked into the showers where Sandusky was raping that kid, you would probably have offered that rapist a fresh ‘soap-on-a-rope’ and wished him a good day before leaving.


33 posted on 07/22/2012 12:03:54 PM PDT by mkjessup (Romney is to conservatism what Helen Thomas is to a high fashion model walkway.)
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To: Rational Thought
I have a hunch that if the truth were fully exposed,

Yep. It's like any cover-up. Find the usual suspects, hang everything on them, and especially the dead guy who can't speak up for himself.

From what I understand this was an open secret in the town.

Wasn't there an ice cream cone named for Sandusky. How many of the town's other finest citizens were buying those cones and were aware of what they meant???

34 posted on 07/22/2012 12:04:32 PM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: Zionist Conspirator
The cover-up is in and of itself, almost worse than the original criminality.

Those who know, and could act but would not, are by association in the same rank as the actual perpetrator.

I suppose that Joe Paterno NEEDED the football expertise of Jerry Sandusky, but did he also need this post-humous grief?

In retrospect, it would seem not. The evil things that men do live on after them; The good things are often buried with their bones. (Mark Anthony, Shakespeare's "Julius Caesar")
35 posted on 07/22/2012 12:05:45 PM PDT by alloysteel
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To: Dilbert San Diego

“The media has downplayed the homosexuality angle of this story, and of other cases such as the Catholic priests”

I tell you what’s fun for me - to go on other sites and talk about the homophobia of the people complaining about Sandusky and the like. Why they should CELEBRATE the diversity in the Penn State coaching staff.

Calling these left-wingers a bunch of homo-phobes is a hoot!!


36 posted on 07/22/2012 12:08:42 PM PDT by BobL
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To: dfwgator

I have a book titled “Down and Dirty” about Oklahoma football under Switzer. It was written by Charles Thompson a star quarterback on the team.

To make it short, it was probably the most corrupt program i the country. Basically it was totally corrupt. Thompson was also recruited by Oklahoma State and it appears they were just about as bad at the time.

I think the current OSU team under Gundy is probably OK. Maybe the same about Oklahoma now but I don’t know.


37 posted on 07/22/2012 12:08:44 PM PDT by yarddog
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To: bboop
There has been no due process.

Exactly. Blame it on the dead guy.

There are still administrators and powers that be AT Penn State who were part of the cover-up.

Probably the same ones who ordered the statue removed and are applauding its removal.

38 posted on 07/22/2012 12:09:19 PM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: yarddog

No doubt Switzer was not a saint, he’ll even admit it (something JoePa was never willing to do).


39 posted on 07/22/2012 12:11:18 PM PDT by dfwgator (FUJR (not you, Jim))
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To: mkjessup
In your Paterno-worshiping world, had you walked into the showers where Sandusky was raping that kid, you would probably have offered that rapist a fresh ‘soap-on-a-rope’ and wished him a good day before leaving.

Are you or Louis Freeh claiming that Joe Paterno did this???

40 posted on 07/22/2012 12:13:28 PM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: Uncle Chip

Jay Paterno should not be so bold as to claim to know what is good - or not - for the victims.

It is understandable he is upset - but these public statements from Jay have done nothing to help the Paterno family.

Remember - Scott Paterno was JoePa’s legal counsel up until the SHTF


41 posted on 07/22/2012 12:15:46 PM PDT by Scotswife
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To: dfwgator
The Paterno Family is not on trial.

So then is their request out of line???

42 posted on 07/22/2012 12:17:51 PM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: Uncle Chip
Paterno was given credible evidence that a horrible crime had been committed against an innocent child by someone he knew. The list of actions he could have taken is extremely long. Paterno’s power and influence over the University could have been used to bring everything to a screeching halt until a thorough investigation was completed. Instead, he opted to pass it off to the next in line, and pretend he had done his duty.
43 posted on 07/22/2012 12:23:00 PM PDT by Tex-Con-Man (T. Coddington Van Voorhees VII 2012 - "Together, I Shall Ride You To Victory")
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To: Morgana

Joe and Sandusky will become icons of the gay community. Let them march in their disgusting parades and all normal people will eventually realize same-sex rape of young boys is what yet remains in their closet. Keep outing gays on this issue and eventually they can be forced to shut their coprophilic mouths.


44 posted on 07/22/2012 12:34:41 PM PDT by Neoliberalnot (Marxism works well only with the uneducated and the unarmed.)
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To: Uncle Chip; All
Are you or Louis Freeh claiming that Joe Paterno did this???

Perhaps not the actual act of penetration, but Paterno's failure to act (which SHOULD have included being sure that Sandusky was exposed for his heinous crimes back in 1998) is why Sandusky was able to continue raping little boys.

So to answer your question with precision, Paterno may not have participated in the many rapes committed by Sandusky, but his negligence was equivalent to holding the kids down so they could be violated. All Paterno had to do was to open his mouth and tell what he knew, and he didn't.
45 posted on 07/22/2012 12:36:42 PM PDT by mkjessup (Romney is to conservatism what Helen Thomas is to a high fashion model walkway.)
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To: Morgana

Pity. The man was such a dedicated academic scientist and educator of fine minds.


46 posted on 07/22/2012 12:37:27 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong!)
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To: Morgana

“Melt it at the local scrap yard!”

Yes, melt it down...

Joe Paterno Legacy...

Pompous Pedophile Protector, doomed by his proclivity to his own pomposity…he cared more about his own image and his ‘about to be damned’ football program than he cared about the young boys scarred for life by the evil perpetrator Jerry Sandusky. Better that he had never been born…


47 posted on 07/22/2012 12:48:04 PM PDT by GGpaX4DumpedTea (I am a Tea Party descendant...steeped in the Constitutional Republic given to us by the Founders.)
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To: Morgana
I seem to remember Penn state's president declaring his goal was to make Happy Valley the most gay friendly campus in the nation

It seems he didn't have much work to do

I wonder if that is in part why this was allowed to go on and on?

“the most gay friendly campus in the nation”

.

48 posted on 07/22/2012 12:54:24 PM PDT by Elle Bee
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To: bboop

Exactly how are you going to charge the dead guy to receive your due process before considering evidence already presented in courts of law regarding Sandusky?


49 posted on 07/22/2012 1:00:33 PM PDT by Cvengr (Adversity in life and death is inevitable. Thru faith in Christ, stress is optional.)
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To: Uncle Chip

Oh, PULEEEEEZZZZZZZZZZZZZ

Do you really think they wouldn’t have whitewashed that Freeh report if the results had been ANYTHING but incontestable????

There wasn’t just a bit of smoke swirling around the heads of Sandusky, Paterno and the rest of the maggots running Pedo State - it has been a raging forest fire for decades and they were ALL fiddling away while the lives of innocent kids were being destroyed.

Worst of ALL, is that:
(A) Sandusky is physically (somewhere in his brain) miswired and therfore he is ABNORMAL. I don’t think he consciously made the INITIAL choice, but he HAS consciously repeated the acts and cannot stop doing so. The ONLY action society can take to protect itself is to permanently incarcerate (or better yet, exterminate) such people in order to protect those living and prevent any future victims from his inherited defects.

(B) The rest of the buggers at Pedo State had one and only one reason for aiding and abetting this atrocity (and made CONSCIOUS DECISIONS to do so) - the OBSCENE amount of $$$$$ that football at all levels throws off these days. They are ALL truly accessories in conspiracy to commit, accessories to the acts and accessories after the fact. They ALL belong in jail and should ALL be held financially responsible AND the football program should FOREVER be banned at PEDO STATE.

More to the point, there needs to be a nationwide investigation of every single such program, because y’all know damn well, that just like the Catholic Priests, Sandusky ain’t the one and only one that has been and still is doing this nasty, nasty stuff.

Anyone promoting such fiction is guilty of aiding and abetting the ongoing perpetration of these horiffic crimes against these young defenseless victims.


50 posted on 07/22/2012 1:01:53 PM PDT by CanuckYank
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