Skip to comments.Bill O'Reilly melts down in debate w Rep. Chafettz over Gun Control
Posted on 07/25/2012 5:33:30 AM PDT by GlockThe Vote
Embrassing beyond words how utterly ignorant people like Bill O are on gun laws.
Did this idiot ever hear of a NICS check?
Now BOR wants the FBI checking us out?
AK47 is a “heavy” weapon don’t you know. ;)
To say the most, 0’Pinhead is the least, the VERRRY least !!!!!
What is this obessession w him buying ammo over the net?
Would these idiots have felt any better or worse than if he bought the ammo at different wal marts in smaller increments over the course of a year or two?
All emotion, no logic or fact.
But Bill thinks the same FBI would have stormed the apartment of a neuroscience PhD candidate whose only encounter with the police was a speeding ticket, because he ordered ammo.
Bill O’Reilly is one dumb Mick.
My fantasy is his staff keeping records of his stupidity and publishing a book from some county which wouldn’t extradite them for violating their non-disclosure agreement when they were sued.
Andrea Ryan added this on firearms registration:
Bill OReilly was wrong and Senator Chaffetz was completely correct.
A simple reading of the ATFs own website is irrefutable support that Bill OReilly was ranting on a topic he knows nothing about. And its a dangerous rant, because it incites people based on misinformation. For someone to call an AK-47 (a gun that could be, and is, used for hunting) heavy armor and heavy armament and then lump it in with mortars and heavy artillery is astoundingly uninformed. And then shame on Bill OReilly to tell Senator Chaffetz, who does know and understand the Federal laws, that he was wrong.
The Federal government requires a $200 SOT Tax Stamp for certain firearms listed below, along with an NFA application, a background check, and approval by the ATF, as well as, the local Chief Law Enforcement Officer. Its an extremely rigorous and expensive process. The government makes it very difficult to own one of these and they make the burden on the individual to get it right quite brutal. Note: the machine guns that Bill OReilly said you can just grab one at a gun show are on the ATFs list. You cant just grab one at a gun show. This even applies to any piece of metal, i.e. a sear, that allows a rifle to become fully automatic.
The process takes many, many months. And if an owner wants to give or sell any of these firearms to another individual they must repeat the process, along with another $200 payment to the ATF.
From the ATFs website,
Q: The types of firearms that must be registered in the National Firearm Registration and Transfer Record are defined in the NFA and 27 CFR, Part 479. What are some examples?
Some examples of the types of firearms that must be registered are:
The frames or receivers of machine guns;
Any combination of parts designed and intended for use in converting weapons into machine guns;
Any part designed and intended solely and exclusively for converting a weapon into a machine gun;
Any combination of parts from which a machine gun can be assembled if the parts are in the possession or under the control of a person;
Silencers and any part designed and intended for fabricating a silencer;
Destructive devices; and,
Any other weapon.
A few examples of destructive devices are:
Anti-tank guns (over caliber .50);
A few examples of any other weapon are:
Ithaca Auto-Burglar guns;
Cane guns; and,
Gadget-type firearms and pen guns which fire a projectile by the action of an explosive.
[26 U.S.C. 5845]
Q: How can an individual legally acquire NFA firearms?
Basically, there are 2 ways that an individual (who is not prohibited by Federal, State, or local law from receiving or possessing firearms) may legally acquire NFA firearms:
1.By transfer after approval by ATF of a registered weapon from its lawful owner residing in the same State as the transferee.
2.By obtaining prior approval from ATF to make NFA firearms.
[27 CFR 479.62-66 and 479.84-86]
Q: What is the tax on making an NFA firearm?
The tax is $200 for making any NFA firearm, including any other weapon.
Q: How is this tax paid?
A money order or check made payable to the Bureau of ATF together with the application forms are to be mailed to the Bureau of ATF, NFA Branch.
O'Reilly doesn't seem to understand, or simply doesn't care, that when he calls for gun shops to keep a record on the sale of "heavy guns" (what the heck is that anyway, guns over 10 lbs?!?) and large ammo purchases and send them to the FBI. What he is really calling for is registration.
Bill , its 6,000 rounds
I am in a few facebook threads on this topic. The anti-2nd amend types are so uninformed on these topics its really embarassing debating them and pointing out their many false ideas about how things really work. Typically these are people who never owned a weapon in the first place and have no idea what is involved to do it legally.
They never heard of NICS, nothing.
And as Chaffetz said - what amount of rounds is enough for BOR to trigger notifying the FBI? 100, 1000, 10,000? The FBI could not even keep track of Anwars Al Aliki despite 18 emails about him, or some of the 911 terrorists.
I’m pretty amazed that a lace curtain Irish Mick like Bill can stay sober long enough to do his show.He kept saying 60,000 rounds when the shooter had 6,000.The only relevent number is how many times he shot at the crime scene.
Worst example of ignorance I’ve ever seen from O’Reilly. He had to yell because he couldn’t make his point. I can validate that FFL transactions are reviewed by ATF. I purchased a collectible Colt off Gunbroker only to have it seized a year later by ATF as it was reportedly a stolen gun over ten years earlier. System is there but problem is getting data input and having a timely review. I doubt if any states are even inputting mental health issues. As to ammo, I know people with well over 50,000 rounds. Apparently O’Reilly has never had to deal with price and scarcity issues or he would understand why people have large stores of ammo. When every shot costs 20 to 50 cents or more, you try to buy when the price is right.
BOR is a complete idiot, he says 60,000 rounds instead of the reported 6,000 rounds. Also he uses a hand gesture more for a 25mm round instead of a .223.
I sometimes think BOR and Pelosi would hit it off after hours.
Both are loons, I actually like BOR but he is a bit overinflated with his ego and smugness.
Hey you need to send this to BOR- along with a great big loofa sponge
the big O made himself lool real stupid last night and when he realized it ..he prevented his guest from speaking to explain it too him..
“AK47 is a heavy weapon dont you know. ;)”
Someone should ask BOR about PawPaw’s thurty/thurty deer rifle. It would probably get him too confused so forget it, probably cause one of his tirades.
Here would be my questions for O'Reilly:
1. If you say that ammo purchases over 1,000 rounds have to be reported to the FBI. Then what is stopping someone from just purchasing 900 rounds from several different stores or Internet sellers? Is it just on the honor system? Because if you say that all seller would have to report the purchases and someone in the FBI would check to see if multiple purchases were made, then what you are really saying is that ALL ammo purchases must be reported to the FBI and anyone walking into Wal-Mart to buy a box of .22 Ammo would have to fill out a form that goes to the FBI.
2. What happens when somebody purchases what you consider a large amount of Ammo? Does the FBI show up at their door to ask what its for? Do they have to provide a valid response, what if they just tell the FBI agent it's none of their business and to get lost? Can the FBI then confiscate the Ammo because the purchaser didn't provide a "valid" reason for needing it, even though the purchaser did not break any laws.
It’s no wonder Rush Limbaugh refers to this idiot O’Reilly as “Ted Baxter.”
I almost felt bad for BOR last night at how utterlt uninformed he was.
I was flipping through channels last night when I happened upon O’Dumba%% spewing his anti-gun rant. I couldn’t watch. I turned to re-runs of NCIS - at least that show is somewhat believable!
Since when do facts trump caring?
Hey Bill, shouting down your guest is both bad behavior & a poor excuse for an argument.
FYI, Bill, a LEGAL AK47 is a SEMIAUTOMATIC rifle, meaning only one bullet is fired for every pull of the trigger. It cannot spray bullets. But in your ranting, you even reveal you are against semiautomatic guns, so you expose yourself as opposed to the 2nd amendment.
As for the Joker buying 60,000 rounds, it is nonsense to suggest the guy could even use 60,000 rounds in a massacre. No gun could fire that many rounds w/o malfunctioning; & sure enough, the Joker's gun jammed after firing a fraction of 60,000 rounds. And the idea that the ATF can monitor every purchaser of an "excessive" amount of ammo is ludicrous, unless you also favor a bigger police state by hiring a million more ATF agents.
I don't watch BOR anymore, precisely because of his demeanor as expressed in this video.
Bill yells a lot.
Bill O’Reilly make his living stirring cess pools, and most of it he stirs while swimming in it.
In re-examining my cache of several thousand 7.62 x 39 (yes they are for an AK 47), .223, OO BK, OOO BK, .45, .40, .38 Special +P, .380, and .357 to determine what I would buy next, I heard BOR spout off. Good thing I quit taking him seriously years ago.
It reminds me of the time that my son reviewed my armaments and said, “Dad, you have enough ammo to start a war!” I said, “No, I just have enough to end a small one.” I hope it never comes to that.
In the words of a local radio personality that is pro-2nd Amendment, when open carry was signed by the Governor in Oklahoma, “Guns for everybody!” As I have learned, it is better to have it and not need it, than to need it and not have it. Perhaps others will learn that lesson from the horrific events in Aurora. There is a reason that the Colt .45 was referred to as the Peacemaker.
Time to fill BOR’s and Fox’s emails with 60,000 emails. BOR was on the Howie Carr show this past spring. I got through and ripped BOR a new one with his constant interrupting of the guests he has. BOR is another Piers Morgan!!!!
The worst part is that he combined arrogance w ignorance. He is wholly unprepared not only on this topic, but many others as well.
In all honesty every patriot willing to fight should have 60,000 rounds. And avoid buying C-mags.
with apologies to Ted Knight
Bill should run for mayor of NYC! He’s every bit as smart as Mike Bloomberg!
Why on earth any sane person still watches his show is beyond me!
1. What the heck is a "heavy weapon?" BOR repeatedly mentioned "bazookas," "AK-47s" and "machine guns." Functional bazookas (and any other rocket or grenade launchers) are classed as BATFE Destructive Devices and require federal fees, permits and oversight out the wazoo to own. Machine guns (including selective-fire AKs) are already federally registered and taxed. At any rate no bazookas, AKs or machine guns were used in the Aurora shooting.
2. BOR said "you can buy bazookas or anything that you want at one of these 'gun shows!'" BOR has obviously never been to a gun show. All state and federal laws are strictly enforced at every gun show that I've ever been to all they way back to the 1970s. Sure, you CAN buy Class III weapons at shows, but only if you have the proper credentials. The dealers don't "sell under the table" - heck, the ones I've met at shows will shoo you away fairly quickly if you can't produce the right paperwork. They have a high overhead/low volume business and the BATFE keeps them on a tight leash. They don't need trouble. Most people couldn't afford a machine gun these days anyway. The cheapest one I've seen recently cost $9K (a lowly Sten). M16s and AKs run way above that.
There was more, but I'm tired of thinking about it already. Gah.
I've noticed he is doing it a lot lately.
I can't remember the last time he tried to actually listen to a guest. In fact, because Ted knows it all, why does he even have guests anyway?
BOR invented a completely new class of weapons nobody had ever heard of - this “heavy weapons” thing.
"Ladies and gentlemen of the jury, the police tell us that this man had an arsenal at his disposal! An arsenal!! He had enough ammo to kill poor Malik a hundred times over! How can an intelligent person believe that he was merely acting in self-defense.....?"
In these times it is wise to admit to owning no ammo at all.
What a brilliant mind, he sticks his fingers in his ears and says “na na na na na na, I can’t hear you” and stops long enough to utter such intelligent remarks like....”C’MONNNNNNNN”.
Need the email address for Fox News. I want to let them know I will not be watching from 8PM to 9PM anymore.
Oddly enough, the AR that was used in the movie shooting is a "light weapon" by anyone else's definition. Had joker-freakboy used a conventional battle rifle (like the gunman in Norway did) casualties would have been much worse.
Also, in all the hysteria over "100-round magazines," notice how no one is mentioning that it jammed early, probabaly reducing casualties considerably?
The worst part is that people take what these clowns say as fact.
BOR made such an ass of himself last night.
Problem with BOR is he believes that someone should be looking out for everyone. He is a fan of big government, and may even think all the social programs/government support/safety-net stuff is the way America is supposed to function. Bet he even believes he wouldn’t be where he is without others, and that ‘he didn’t build that.’
That said, it is not surprising this new yukker seems to believe that regular folk should not have guns, and that plain mercantilism is bad.
Stopped watching him a good while ago after it became evident the phrase “who’s looking out for you” is code for “the government is there to help.”
BOR is a waste of time. He is an ignorant fool at best.
Later in the program he congratulated himself for having a “debate” on the subject. I guess shouting so the other person can’t be heard could be called a “debate”, if you’re an idiot.
And, for purposes of understanding the idea of 6000 rounds of ammo, Freepers who practice, feel free to report how long it would take you to go through 6000 rounds of ammo at the target range/how many rounds do you fire off in a typical practice session at the range?
Ted O’Baxter’s phone (and his masturbatory fantasies) have harmed more.”folks” than the guns of me and all of my fiends put together.
Anyone notice that the only sexual predators he “goes after” are pedophiles?
I find that big-city people are some of the most provincial I've ever met, and ignorant of the tools needed for daily life outside their liberty-free bubble of police state.