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Bill O'Reilly melts down in debate w Rep. Chafettz over Gun Control
Youtube ^ | 7/25/2012 | youtube

Posted on 07/25/2012 5:33:30 AM PDT by GlockThe Vote

Embrassing beyond words how utterly ignorant people like Bill O are on gun laws.

Did this idiot ever hear of a NICS check?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FXTT3A0B1Vs&feature=player_embedded#!


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1 posted on 07/25/2012 5:33:41 AM PDT by GlockThe Vote
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To: GlockThe Vote

Now BOR wants the FBI checking us out?

LOL


2 posted on 07/25/2012 5:35:00 AM PDT by GlockThe Vote (The Obama Adminstration: 2nd wave of attacks on America after 9/11)
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To: GlockThe Vote

AK47 is a “heavy” weapon don’t you know. ;)


3 posted on 07/25/2012 5:38:01 AM PDT by csmusaret (I will give Obama credit for one thing- he is living proof that familiarity breeds contempt.)
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To: GlockThe Vote

To say the most, 0’Pinhead is the least, the VERRRY least !!!!!


4 posted on 07/25/2012 5:38:11 AM PDT by gunnyg ("A Constitution changed from Freedom, can never be restored; Liberty, once lost, is lost forever...)
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To: GlockThe Vote
I'm going to go my local gun store and ask for the bazooka, mortar and machine gun that Bill O’Reilly said that I could purchase with no paperwork whatsoever, under current law...
5 posted on 07/25/2012 5:42:16 AM PDT by apillar
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To: gunnyg

What is this obessession w him buying ammo over the net?

Would these idiots have felt any better or worse than if he bought the ammo at different wal marts in smaller increments over the course of a year or two?

All emotion, no logic or fact.


6 posted on 07/25/2012 5:44:12 AM PDT by GlockThe Vote (The Obama Adminstration: 2nd wave of attacks on America after 9/11)
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To: GlockThe Vote
The FBI had 18 emails that were sent from Fort Hood mass murder Nidal Hasan to terrorist Anwar al-Awlaki discussing suicide bombings and they did a big fat PC nothing.

But Bill thinks the same FBI would have stormed the apartment of a neuroscience PhD candidate whose only encounter with the police was a speeding ticket, because he ordered ammo.

7 posted on 07/25/2012 5:45:55 AM PDT by CaptainK (...please make it stop. Shake a can of pennies at it.)
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To: GlockThe Vote

Bill O’Reilly is one dumb Mick.

My fantasy is his staff keeping records of his stupidity and publishing a book from some county which wouldn’t extradite them for violating their non-disclosure agreement when they were sued.


8 posted on 07/25/2012 5:46:58 AM PDT by KyGeezer (9 mm. Fiocchi JHP...52 grains, 1250 ft./sec., 404 ft. pounds)
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To: KyGeezer

Andrea Ryan added this on firearms registration:

Bill O’Reilly was wrong and Senator Chaffetz was completely correct.

A simple reading of the ATF’s own website is irrefutable support that Bill O’Reilly was ranting on a topic he knows nothing about. And it’s a dangerous rant, because it incites people based on misinformation. For someone to call an AK-47 (a gun that could be, and is, used for hunting) “heavy armor” and “heavy armament” and then lump it in with mortars and heavy artillery is astoundingly uninformed. And then shame on Bill O’Reilly to tell Senator Chaffetz, who does know and understand the Federal laws, that he was wrong.

The Federal government requires a $200 SOT Tax Stamp for certain firearms listed below, along with an NFA application, a background check, and approval by the ATF, as well as, the local Chief Law Enforcement Officer. It’s an extremely rigorous and expensive process. The government makes it very difficult to own one of these and they make the burden on the individual to get it right quite brutal. Note: the machine guns that Bill O’Reilly said you can “just grab one at a gun show” are on the ATF’s list. You can’t just grab one at a gun show. This even applies to any piece of metal, i.e. a sear, that allows a rifle to become fully automatic.

The process takes many, many months. And if an owner wants to give or sell any of these firearms to another individual they must repeat the process, along with another $200 payment to the ATF.

From the ATF‘s website,

Q: The types of firearms that must be registered in the National Firearm Registration and Transfer Record are defined in the NFA and 27 CFR, Part 479. What are some examples?

Some examples of the types of firearms that must be registered are:
•Machine guns;
•The frames or receivers of machine guns;
•Any combination of parts designed and intended for use in converting weapons into machine guns;
•Any part designed and intended solely and exclusively for converting a weapon into a machine gun;
•Any combination of parts from which a machine gun can be assembled if the parts are in the possession or under the control of a person;
•Silencers and any part designed and intended for fabricating a silencer;
•Short-barreled rifles;
•Short-barreled shotguns;
•Destructive devices; and,
•“Any other weapon.”

A few examples of destructive devices are:
•Molotov cocktails;
•Anti-tank guns (over caliber .50);
•Bazookas; and,
•Mortars.

A few examples of “any other weapon” are:
•H&R Handyguns;
•Ithaca Auto-Burglar guns;
•Cane guns; and,
•Gadget-type firearms and “pen” guns which fire a projectile by the action of an explosive.

[26 U.S.C. 5845]

Q: How can an individual legally acquire NFA firearms?

Basically, there are 2 ways that an individual (who is not prohibited by Federal, State, or local law from receiving or possessing firearms) may legally acquire NFA firearms:
1.By transfer after approval by ATF of a registered weapon from its lawful owner residing in the same State as the transferee.
2.By obtaining prior approval from ATF to make NFA firearms.

[27 CFR 479.62-66 and 479.84-86]

Q: What is the tax on making an NFA firearm?

The tax is $200 for making any NFA firearm, including “any other weapon.”

Q: How is this tax paid?

A money order or check made payable to the Bureau of ATF together with the application forms are to be mailed to the Bureau of ATF, NFA Branch.


9 posted on 07/25/2012 5:49:17 AM PDT by GlockThe Vote (The Obama Adminstration: 2nd wave of attacks on America after 9/11)
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To: apillar
Bill O'Reilly has always been a typical New York gun grabber. Of course he will never come out and say that for fear of angering "the folks", he claims he's all for the second amendment with a few "reasonable" restrictions. Unfortunately, his definition of "reasonable" is somewhere in the Bloomberg, Feinstein, Lautenberg areas.

O'Reilly doesn't seem to understand, or simply doesn't care, that when he calls for gun shops to keep a record on the sale of "heavy guns" (what the heck is that anyway, guns over 10 lbs?!?) and large ammo purchases and send them to the FBI. What he is really calling for is registration.

10 posted on 07/25/2012 5:49:23 AM PDT by apillar
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To: apillar
60,000 rounds?

Bill , its 6,000 rounds

11 posted on 07/25/2012 5:53:45 AM PDT by scooby321 (h tones)
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To: apillar

I am in a few facebook threads on this topic. The anti-2nd amend types are so uninformed on these topics its really embarassing debating them and pointing out their many false ideas about how things really work. Typically these are people who never owned a weapon in the first place and have no idea what is involved to do it legally.

They never heard of NICS, nothing.

And as Chaffetz said - what amount of rounds is enough for BOR to trigger notifying the FBI? 100, 1000, 10,000? The FBI could not even keep track of Anwars Al Aliki despite 18 emails about him, or some of the 911 terrorists.


12 posted on 07/25/2012 5:55:43 AM PDT by GlockThe Vote (The Obama Adminstration: 2nd wave of attacks on America after 9/11)
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To: KyGeezer

I’m pretty amazed that a lace curtain Irish Mick like Bill can stay sober long enough to do his show.He kept saying 60,000 rounds when the shooter had 6,000.The only relevent number is how many times he shot at the crime scene.


13 posted on 07/25/2012 5:58:42 AM PDT by Farmer Dean (stop worrying about what they want to do to you,start thinking about what you want to do to them)
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To: GlockThe Vote

Worst example of ignorance I’ve ever seen from O’Reilly. He had to yell because he couldn’t make his point. I can validate that FFL transactions are reviewed by ATF. I purchased a collectible Colt off Gunbroker only to have it seized a year later by ATF as it was reportedly a stolen gun over ten years earlier. System is there but problem is getting data input and having a timely review. I doubt if any states are even inputting mental health issues. As to ammo, I know people with well over 50,000 rounds. Apparently O’Reilly has never had to deal with price and scarcity issues or he would understand why people have large stores of ammo. When every shot costs 20 to 50 cents or more, you try to buy when the price is right.


14 posted on 07/25/2012 5:58:59 AM PDT by Boomer One
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To: GlockThe Vote

BOR is a complete idiot, he says 60,000 rounds instead of the reported 6,000 rounds. Also he uses a hand gesture more for a 25mm round instead of a .223.

I sometimes think BOR and Pelosi would hit it off after hours.

Both are loons, I actually like BOR but he is a bit overinflated with his ego and smugness.


15 posted on 07/25/2012 6:00:32 AM PDT by Eye of Unk (Going mobile, posts will be brief. No spellcheck for the grammar nazis.)
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To: Farmer Dean
Elise was spewing the same number last night on Lou Dobbs. The two gun rights advocates pretty successfully schooled her (and Lou for that matter).
16 posted on 07/25/2012 6:02:33 AM PDT by mykroar (October race riots bring November martial law.)
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To: CaptainK

Hey you need to send this to BOR- along with a great big loofa sponge


17 posted on 07/25/2012 6:03:21 AM PDT by silverleaf (Every human spent about half an hour as a single cell)
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To: GlockThe Vote

the big O made himself lool real stupid last night and when he realized it ..he prevented his guest from speaking to explain it too him..


18 posted on 07/25/2012 6:04:45 AM PDT by dalebert
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To: csmusaret

“AK47 is a “heavy” weapon don’t you know. ;)”

Someone should ask BOR about PawPaw’s thurty/thurty deer rifle. It would probably get him too confused so forget it, probably cause one of his tirades.


19 posted on 07/25/2012 6:05:14 AM PDT by A Strict Constructionist (We're an Oligrachy...Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God. Thomas Jefferson)
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To: GlockThe Vote
What is this obessession w him buying ammo over the net?

Here would be my questions for O'Reilly:

1. If you say that ammo purchases over 1,000 rounds have to be reported to the FBI. Then what is stopping someone from just purchasing 900 rounds from several different stores or Internet sellers? Is it just on the honor system? Because if you say that all seller would have to report the purchases and someone in the FBI would check to see if multiple purchases were made, then what you are really saying is that ALL ammo purchases must be reported to the FBI and anyone walking into Wal-Mart to buy a box of .22 Ammo would have to fill out a form that goes to the FBI.

2. What happens when somebody purchases what you consider a large amount of Ammo? Does the FBI show up at their door to ask what its for? Do they have to provide a valid response, what if they just tell the FBI agent it's none of their business and to get lost? Can the FBI then confiscate the Ammo because the purchaser didn't provide a "valid" reason for needing it, even though the purchaser did not break any laws.

20 posted on 07/25/2012 6:06:02 AM PDT by apillar
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To: GlockThe Vote

It’s no wonder Rush Limbaugh refers to this idiot O’Reilly as “Ted Baxter.”


21 posted on 07/25/2012 6:08:07 AM PDT by july4thfreedomfoundation (If Guns Kill People then Cars Drive Drunk)
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To: july4thfreedomfoundation

I almost felt bad for BOR last night at how utterlt uninformed he was.


22 posted on 07/25/2012 6:09:20 AM PDT by GlockThe Vote (The Obama Adminstration: 2nd wave of attacks on America after 9/11)
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To: apillar

I was flipping through channels last night when I happened upon O’Dumba%% spewing his anti-gun rant. I couldn’t watch. I turned to re-runs of NCIS - at least that show is somewhat believable!


23 posted on 07/25/2012 6:10:25 AM PDT by meyer (It's 1860 all over again - the taxpayer is the new "N" word)
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To: GlockThe Vote
But...but...but, Mr O'Reilly really cares...sniff...

Since when do facts trump caring?

24 posted on 07/25/2012 6:10:25 AM PDT by Redleg Duke ("Madison, Wisconsin is 30 square miles surrounded by reality.", L. S. Dryfus)
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To: GlockThe Vote
BOR = loud + ignorant

Hey Bill, shouting down your guest is both bad behavior & a poor excuse for an argument.

FYI, Bill, a LEGAL AK47 is a SEMIAUTOMATIC rifle, meaning only one bullet is fired for every pull of the trigger. It cannot spray bullets. But in your ranting, you even reveal you are against semiautomatic guns, so you expose yourself as opposed to the 2nd amendment.

As for the Joker buying 60,000 rounds, it is nonsense to suggest the guy could even use 60,000 rounds in a massacre. No gun could fire that many rounds w/o malfunctioning; & sure enough, the Joker's gun jammed after firing a fraction of 60,000 rounds. And the idea that the ATF can monitor every purchaser of an "excessive" amount of ammo is ludicrous, unless you also favor a bigger police state by hiring a million more ATF agents.

I don't watch BOR anymore, precisely because of his demeanor as expressed in this video.

25 posted on 07/25/2012 6:16:32 AM PDT by Mister Da (The mark of a wise man is not what he knows, but what he knows he doesn't know!)
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To: Boomer One
He [O'Reilly] had to yell because he couldn’t make his point.

Bill yells a lot.

26 posted on 07/25/2012 6:16:57 AM PDT by MissMagnolia (Being powerful is like being a lady. If you have to tell people you are, you aren't. (M.Thatcher))
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To: GlockThe Vote

Bill O’Reilly make his living stirring cess pools, and most of it he stirs while swimming in it.


27 posted on 07/25/2012 6:16:57 AM PDT by Venturer
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To: Boomer One

In re-examining my cache of several thousand 7.62 x 39 (yes they are for an AK 47), .223, OO BK, OOO BK, .45, .40, .38 Special +P, .380, and .357 to determine what I would buy next, I heard BOR spout off. Good thing I quit taking him seriously years ago.

It reminds me of the time that my son reviewed my armaments and said, “Dad, you have enough ammo to start a war!” I said, “No, I just have enough to end a small one.” I hope it never comes to that.

In the words of a local radio personality that is pro-2nd Amendment, when open carry was signed by the Governor in Oklahoma, “Guns for everybody!” As I have learned, it is better to have it and not need it, than to need it and not have it. Perhaps others will learn that lesson from the horrific events in Aurora. There is a reason that the Colt .45 was referred to as the Peacemaker.

Gwjack


28 posted on 07/25/2012 6:19:03 AM PDT by gwjack (May God give America His richest blessings.)
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To: GlockThe Vote

Time to fill BOR’s and Fox’s emails with 60,000 emails. BOR was on the Howie Carr show this past spring. I got through and ripped BOR a new one with his constant interrupting of the guests he has. BOR is another Piers Morgan!!!!


29 posted on 07/25/2012 6:22:06 AM PDT by tiger-one
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To: tiger-one

The worst part is that he combined arrogance w ignorance. He is wholly unprepared not only on this topic, but many others as well.


30 posted on 07/25/2012 6:23:50 AM PDT by GlockThe Vote (The Obama Adminstration: 2nd wave of attacks on America after 9/11)
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To: gwjack

In all honesty every patriot willing to fight should have 60,000 rounds. And avoid buying C-mags.


31 posted on 07/25/2012 6:29:07 AM PDT by Eye of Unk (Going mobile, posts will be brief. No spellcheck for the grammar nazis.)
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To: GlockThe Vote
I really can't stand BORe ... as usual Rush has him pegged

with apologies to Ted Knight

Find O'Reilly

.

32 posted on 07/25/2012 6:29:40 AM PDT by Elle Bee
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To: GlockThe Vote

Bill should run for mayor of NYC! He’s every bit as smart as Mike Bloomberg!

Why on earth any sane person still watches his show is beyond me!


33 posted on 07/25/2012 6:34:43 AM PDT by Bigun ("The most fearsome words in the English language are I'm from the government and I'm here to help!")
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To: GlockThe Vote
I saw that live. It was painful to see such error and invincible ignorance on display. BOR obviously knows nothing at all about guns.

1. What the heck is a "heavy weapon?" BOR repeatedly mentioned "bazookas," "AK-47s" and "machine guns." Functional bazookas (and any other rocket or grenade launchers) are classed as BATFE Destructive Devices and require federal fees, permits and oversight out the wazoo to own. Machine guns (including selective-fire AKs) are already federally registered and taxed. At any rate no bazookas, AKs or machine guns were used in the Aurora shooting.

2. BOR said "you can buy bazookas or anything that you want at one of these 'gun shows!'" BOR has obviously never been to a gun show. All state and federal laws are strictly enforced at every gun show that I've ever been to all they way back to the 1970s. Sure, you CAN buy Class III weapons at shows, but only if you have the proper credentials. The dealers don't "sell under the table" - heck, the ones I've met at shows will shoo you away fairly quickly if you can't produce the right paperwork. They have a high overhead/low volume business and the BATFE keeps them on a tight leash. They don't need trouble. Most people couldn't afford a machine gun these days anyway. The cheapest one I've seen recently cost $9K (a lowly Sten). M16s and AKs run way above that.

There was more, but I'm tired of thinking about it already. Gah.

34 posted on 07/25/2012 6:35:24 AM PDT by jboot
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To: tiger-one
Come on fans. BOR was only doing his Ted Baxter impression.

I've noticed he is doing it a lot lately.

I can't remember the last time he tried to actually listen to a guest. In fact, because Ted knows it all, why does he even have guests anyway?

35 posted on 07/25/2012 6:35:54 AM PDT by Tripoli
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To: GlockThe Vote

BOR invented a completely new class of weapons nobody had ever heard of - this “heavy weapons” thing.


36 posted on 07/25/2012 6:43:26 AM PDT by Last Dakotan
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To: gwjack
Most governmental organs have a low tolerance for ammo accumulation. Here in Maryland, it used to be that a collection of more than four hundred rounds (all calibers taken together) was considered to be an "arsenal." Not illegal to own or actionable in iteslf, but definitely DA bait.

"Ladies and gentlemen of the jury, the police tell us that this man had an arsenal at his disposal! An arsenal!! He had enough ammo to kill poor Malik a hundred times over! How can an intelligent person believe that he was merely acting in self-defense.....?"

In these times it is wise to admit to owning no ammo at all.

37 posted on 07/25/2012 6:51:23 AM PDT by jboot (OPSEC. It's a killjoy, but it may save your life someday.)
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To: GlockThe Vote

What a brilliant mind, he sticks his fingers in his ears and says “na na na na na na, I can’t hear you” and stops long enough to utter such intelligent remarks like....”C’MONNNNNNNN”.


38 posted on 07/25/2012 6:51:40 AM PDT by RetSignman
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To: GlockThe Vote

Need the email address for Fox News. I want to let them know I will not be watching from 8PM to 9PM anymore.


39 posted on 07/25/2012 6:59:15 AM PDT by W.Lee (No compromise)
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To: Last Dakotan
BOR invented a completely new class of weapons nobody had ever heard of - this “heavy weapons” thing.

Oddly enough, the AR that was used in the movie shooting is a "light weapon" by anyone else's definition. Had joker-freakboy used a conventional battle rifle (like the gunman in Norway did) casualties would have been much worse.

Also, in all the hysteria over "100-round magazines," notice how no one is mentioning that it jammed early, probabaly reducing casualties considerably?

40 posted on 07/25/2012 6:59:30 AM PDT by jboot (OPSEC. It's a killjoy, but it may save your life someday.)
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To: GlockThe Vote; mickie; flaglady47
I know O'Really got tons of emails at his station yesterday after his outrageous displays of ignorance on the guns issue....so I wanted to view his "mailbag" segment at the end of the show last night to see if he was man enough to include some of the brickbats we all know he received....and then to hear his smart-alec reply.

Guess what.......

Leni

41 posted on 07/25/2012 7:05:45 AM PDT by MinuteGal
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To: MinuteGal

The worst part is that people take what these clowns say as fact.

BOR made such an ass of himself last night.


42 posted on 07/25/2012 7:11:47 AM PDT by GlockThe Vote (The Obama Adminstration: 2nd wave of attacks on America after 9/11)
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To: GlockThe Vote

Problem with BOR is he believes that someone should be looking out for everyone. He is a fan of big government, and may even think all the social programs/government support/safety-net stuff is the way America is supposed to function. Bet he even believes he wouldn’t be where he is without others, and that ‘he didn’t build that.’

That said, it is not surprising this new yukker seems to believe that regular folk should not have guns, and that plain mercantilism is bad.

Stopped watching him a good while ago after it became evident the phrase “who’s looking out for you” is code for “the government is there to help.”


43 posted on 07/25/2012 7:17:09 AM PDT by petro45acp ("Don't" read 'HOPE' by L Neil Smith and Aaron Zelman...it will bring tears to eyes. BORE!!!!!!!!!!!!)
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To: GlockThe Vote
He is in essence calling for gun registration without knowing that that is what he is calling for. Stupid.
44 posted on 07/25/2012 7:17:32 AM PDT by MileHi ( "It's coming down to patriots vs the politicians." - ovrtaxt)
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To: MileHi

BOR is a waste of time. He is an ignorant fool at best.


45 posted on 07/25/2012 7:22:29 AM PDT by GlockThe Vote (The Obama Adminstration: 2nd wave of attacks on America after 9/11)
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To: GlockThe Vote

Later in the program he congratulated himself for having a “debate” on the subject. I guess shouting so the other person can’t be heard could be called a “debate”, if you’re an idiot.


46 posted on 07/25/2012 7:26:04 AM PDT by anoldafvet
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To: GlockThe Vote
Wouldn't be the first time he's melted down.


47 posted on 07/25/2012 7:26:34 AM PDT by dfwgator (FUJR (not you, Jim))
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To: scooby321; All

And, for purposes of understanding the idea of 6000 rounds of ammo, Freepers who practice, feel free to report how long it would take you to go through 6000 rounds of ammo at the target range/how many rounds do you fire off in a typical practice session at the range?


48 posted on 07/25/2012 7:28:03 AM PDT by MarDav
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To: GlockThe Vote

Ted O’Baxter’s phone (and his masturbatory fantasies) have harmed more.”folks” than the guns of me and all of my fiends put together.

Anyone notice that the only sexual predators he “goes after” are pedophiles?


49 posted on 07/25/2012 7:32:23 AM PDT by PalmettoMason (South Carolinians need to start choosing a primary challenger to Nikki Haley NOW!!!!!!!)
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To: GlockThe Vote
Embrassing beyond words how utterly ignorant people like Bill O are on gun laws.

I find that big-city people are some of the most provincial I've ever met, and ignorant of the tools needed for daily life outside their liberty-free bubble of police state.

50 posted on 07/25/2012 7:38:41 AM PDT by backwoods-engineer (I will vote against ANY presidential candidate who had non-citizen parents.)
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