Posted on 07/25/2012 5:33:30 AM PDT by GlockThe Vote
Embrassing beyond words how utterly ignorant people like Bill O are on gun laws.
Did this idiot ever hear of a NICS check?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FXTT3A0B1Vs&feature=player_embedded#!
Now BOR wants the FBI checking us out?
LOL
AK47 is a “heavy” weapon don’t you know. ;)
To say the most, 0’Pinhead is the least, the VERRRY least !!!!!
What is this obessession w him buying ammo over the net?
Would these idiots have felt any better or worse than if he bought the ammo at different wal marts in smaller increments over the course of a year or two?
All emotion, no logic or fact.
But Bill thinks the same FBI would have stormed the apartment of a neuroscience PhD candidate whose only encounter with the police was a speeding ticket, because he ordered ammo.
Bill O’Reilly is one dumb Mick.
My fantasy is his staff keeping records of his stupidity and publishing a book from some county which wouldn’t extradite them for violating their non-disclosure agreement when they were sued.
Andrea Ryan added this on firearms registration:
Bill O’Reilly was wrong and Senator Chaffetz was completely correct.
A simple reading of the ATF’s own website is irrefutable support that Bill O’Reilly was ranting on a topic he knows nothing about. And it’s a dangerous rant, because it incites people based on misinformation. For someone to call an AK-47 (a gun that could be, and is, used for hunting) “heavy armor” and “heavy armament” and then lump it in with mortars and heavy artillery is astoundingly uninformed. And then shame on Bill O’Reilly to tell Senator Chaffetz, who does know and understand the Federal laws, that he was wrong.
The Federal government requires a $200 SOT Tax Stamp for certain firearms listed below, along with an NFA application, a background check, and approval by the ATF, as well as, the local Chief Law Enforcement Officer. It’s an extremely rigorous and expensive process. The government makes it very difficult to own one of these and they make the burden on the individual to get it right quite brutal. Note: the machine guns that Bill O’Reilly said you can “just grab one at a gun show” are on the ATF’s list. You can’t just grab one at a gun show. This even applies to any piece of metal, i.e. a sear, that allows a rifle to become fully automatic.
The process takes many, many months. And if an owner wants to give or sell any of these firearms to another individual they must repeat the process, along with another $200 payment to the ATF.
From the ATF‘s website,
Q: The types of firearms that must be registered in the National Firearm Registration and Transfer Record are defined in the NFA and 27 CFR, Part 479. What are some examples?
Some examples of the types of firearms that must be registered are:
•Machine guns;
•The frames or receivers of machine guns;
•Any combination of parts designed and intended for use in converting weapons into machine guns;
•Any part designed and intended solely and exclusively for converting a weapon into a machine gun;
•Any combination of parts from which a machine gun can be assembled if the parts are in the possession or under the control of a person;
•Silencers and any part designed and intended for fabricating a silencer;
•Short-barreled rifles;
•Short-barreled shotguns;
•Destructive devices; and,
•“Any other weapon.”
A few examples of destructive devices are:
•Molotov cocktails;
•Anti-tank guns (over caliber .50);
•Bazookas; and,
•Mortars.
A few examples of “any other weapon” are:
•H&R Handyguns;
•Ithaca Auto-Burglar guns;
•Cane guns; and,
•Gadget-type firearms and “pen” guns which fire a projectile by the action of an explosive.
[26 U.S.C. 5845]
Q: How can an individual legally acquire NFA firearms?
Basically, there are 2 ways that an individual (who is not prohibited by Federal, State, or local law from receiving or possessing firearms) may legally acquire NFA firearms:
1.By transfer after approval by ATF of a registered weapon from its lawful owner residing in the same State as the transferee.
2.By obtaining prior approval from ATF to make NFA firearms.
[27 CFR 479.62-66 and 479.84-86]
Q: What is the tax on making an NFA firearm?
The tax is $200 for making any NFA firearm, including “any other weapon.”
Q: How is this tax paid?
A money order or check made payable to the Bureau of ATF together with the application forms are to be mailed to the Bureau of ATF, NFA Branch.
O'Reilly doesn't seem to understand, or simply doesn't care, that when he calls for gun shops to keep a record on the sale of "heavy guns" (what the heck is that anyway, guns over 10 lbs?!?) and large ammo purchases and send them to the FBI. What he is really calling for is registration.
Bill , its 6,000 rounds
I am in a few facebook threads on this topic. The anti-2nd amend types are so uninformed on these topics its really embarassing debating them and pointing out their many false ideas about how things really work. Typically these are people who never owned a weapon in the first place and have no idea what is involved to do it legally.
They never heard of NICS, nothing.
And as Chaffetz said - what amount of rounds is enough for BOR to trigger notifying the FBI? 100, 1000, 10,000? The FBI could not even keep track of Anwars Al Aliki despite 18 emails about him, or some of the 911 terrorists.
I’m pretty amazed that a lace curtain Irish Mick like Bill can stay sober long enough to do his show.He kept saying 60,000 rounds when the shooter had 6,000.The only relevent number is how many times he shot at the crime scene.
Worst example of ignorance I’ve ever seen from O’Reilly. He had to yell because he couldn’t make his point. I can validate that FFL transactions are reviewed by ATF. I purchased a collectible Colt off Gunbroker only to have it seized a year later by ATF as it was reportedly a stolen gun over ten years earlier. System is there but problem is getting data input and having a timely review. I doubt if any states are even inputting mental health issues. As to ammo, I know people with well over 50,000 rounds. Apparently O’Reilly has never had to deal with price and scarcity issues or he would understand why people have large stores of ammo. When every shot costs 20 to 50 cents or more, you try to buy when the price is right.
BOR is a complete idiot, he says 60,000 rounds instead of the reported 6,000 rounds. Also he uses a hand gesture more for a 25mm round instead of a .223.
I sometimes think BOR and Pelosi would hit it off after hours.
Both are loons, I actually like BOR but he is a bit overinflated with his ego and smugness.
Hey you need to send this to BOR- along with a great big loofa sponge
the big O made himself lool real stupid last night and when he realized it ..he prevented his guest from speaking to explain it too him..
“AK47 is a “heavy” weapon don’t you know. ;)”
Someone should ask BOR about PawPaw’s thurty/thurty deer rifle. It would probably get him too confused so forget it, probably cause one of his tirades.
Here would be my questions for O'Reilly:
1. If you say that ammo purchases over 1,000 rounds have to be reported to the FBI. Then what is stopping someone from just purchasing 900 rounds from several different stores or Internet sellers? Is it just on the honor system? Because if you say that all seller would have to report the purchases and someone in the FBI would check to see if multiple purchases were made, then what you are really saying is that ALL ammo purchases must be reported to the FBI and anyone walking into Wal-Mart to buy a box of .22 Ammo would have to fill out a form that goes to the FBI.
2. What happens when somebody purchases what you consider a large amount of Ammo? Does the FBI show up at their door to ask what its for? Do they have to provide a valid response, what if they just tell the FBI agent it's none of their business and to get lost? Can the FBI then confiscate the Ammo because the purchaser didn't provide a "valid" reason for needing it, even though the purchaser did not break any laws.
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