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Ancient Poop Gives Clues to Modern Diabetes Epidemic
Live Science ^ | 7-24-2012 | Stephanie Pappas

Posted on 07/25/2012 9:13:27 AM PDT by Renfield

The ancient Native Americans of the desert Southwest subsisted on a fiber-filled diet of prickly pear, yucca and flour ground from plant seeds, finds a new analysis of fossilized feces that may explain why modern Native Americans are so susceptible to Type II diabetes.

Thousands of years of incredibly fibrous foods, 20 to 30 times more fibrous than today's typical diet, with low impact on the blood sugar likely left this group vulnerable to the illness when richer Anglo foods made their way to North America, said study researcher Karl Reinhard, a professor of forensic sciences at the University of Nebraska-Lincoln.

"When we look at Native American dietary change within the 20th century, the more ancient traditions disappeared." Reinhard told LiveScience. "They were introduced to a whole new spectrum of foods like fry-bread, which has got a super-high glycemic index."...

(Excerpt) Read more at livescience.com ...


TOPICS: History; Science
KEYWORDS: archaeology; diabetes; dietandcuisine; food; godsgravesglyphs; indians

1 posted on 07/25/2012 9:13:41 AM PDT by Renfield
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To: SunkenCiv

Ping.


2 posted on 07/25/2012 9:14:37 AM PDT by Renfield (Turning apples into venison since 1999!)
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To: Renfield

My great grandfather’s nickname around town was Old Poop but I don’t think he was diabetic.


3 posted on 07/25/2012 9:17:25 AM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: Renfield
Does some college offer a degree in sniffing poop? ;-)
4 posted on 07/25/2012 9:21:41 AM PDT by Average Al (Forbidden fruit leads to many jams.)
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To: Average Al

That or a degree in stool-pushing.


5 posted on 07/25/2012 9:25:39 AM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (If you like lying Socialist dirtbags, you'll love Slick Willard)
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To: Renfield

I think this study is full of crap.


6 posted on 07/25/2012 9:26:47 AM PDT by dfwgator (FUJR (not you, Jim))
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To: fieldmarshaldj

If you can’t be a doctor be a dentist or chiropractor. If you can’t be a gynecologist be a proctologist. If can’t do that be a pooper snooper. ;-)


7 posted on 07/25/2012 9:31:18 AM PDT by Average Al (Forbidden fruit leads to many jams.)
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To: Renfield

Dude finds a fossilized turd and is ready to generalize about the whole “native-american” diet? Does he understand that there were hundreds of tribes and dozens of nations located all over the continent and the chances that they were all eating “incredibly fibrous diets” are rather slim? Has he considered the possibility that this brave had just eaten a tasteless, horrible meal that the wife of the big chief had gotten her hubby to force everyone to eat, and that the next day he went back to his mastodon steaks and bronto burgers?


8 posted on 07/25/2012 9:32:09 AM PDT by ichabod1 (Spriiingtime for islam, and tyranny. Winter for US and frieeends. . .)
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To: Renfield

Any mention of the effects of alcoholism on the rate of diabetes of Native Americans?


9 posted on 07/25/2012 9:33:21 AM PDT by ozzymandus
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To: Renfield

I think we need to get Bloomberg to do some hands on poop checking for sugary sodas, transfats and smokeless powder in ancient feces....some of which are bigger than Bloomberg which will require him to get a stepladder to reach the top of the turd.


10 posted on 07/25/2012 9:34:41 AM PDT by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: Renfield

And that’s why they lived to age 30!!!!!


11 posted on 07/25/2012 9:36:02 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: Renfield
...when richer Anglo foods made their way to North America...

Potatoes were from South America.

Tomatoes were also a New World food.

Sugar cane came from SE Asia.

And weren't the Spanish, not the Anglos, the ones that introduced new foods to the SW United States?

12 posted on 07/25/2012 9:36:09 AM PDT by SampleMan (Feral Humans are the refuse of socialism.)
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To: Renfield
richer Anglo foods made their way to North America

"Anglo" foods? like steak and kidney pie, toad in the hole, bangers and mash, or salmagundi soup? I didn't know that the Indians of the Southwest got into that sort of cuisine.

13 posted on 07/25/2012 9:36:57 AM PDT by Fiji Hill (Deo Vindice!)
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To: ichabod1
"............ancient Native Americans of the desert Southwest ................"

He didn't say EVERYBODY!

BTW, the desert Southwest used to have a very thin, miniscule population due to the absence of enough water to support a large population. It wasn't like it is in modern times.

14 posted on 07/25/2012 9:44:00 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Fiji Hill; ichabod1; ozzymandus; SampleMan

All good points, but I suggest you direct them toward the author....I’m just the middleman.


15 posted on 07/25/2012 9:45:34 AM PDT by Renfield (Turning apples into venison since 1999!)
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To: SampleMan
Anthropologists differentiate between "North America" and "Meso America" ~ rather similar to the way they differentiate between Asia and Europe.

So, corn arrived and that spelled their doom. Suddenly they had a high carb diet!

Indians developed corn and spread the plant and the culture that went with it just all over the place ~

16 posted on 07/25/2012 9:47:30 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: ozzymandus

[ Any mention of the effects of alcoholism on the rate of diabetes of Native Americans? ]

Actually their suceptability to alcoholism could very well be caused by their increased rate of diabeetus.

This is due to the area of the intesting that absorbs alcohol, which is the same area responsible for absorbing sugar.

Fascinatingly the people who have had gastric bypass who are alcohol drinkers had their preference to drink alcohol cut AFTER the bypass surgery.

I would say there is a distinct corelation, not sure of the exact mechanism though. But a gastric bypass for the natives would also seem to stem the levels of alcohol intake as well should those studies hold up.


17 posted on 07/25/2012 9:57:03 AM PDT by GraceG
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To: muawiyah

[ Anthropologists differentiate between “North America” and “Meso America” ~ rather similar to the way they differentiate between Asia and Europe.
So, corn arrived and that spelled their doom. Suddenly they had a high carb diet!

Indians developed corn and spread the plant and the culture that went with it just all over the place ~ ]

Depends on which indians and where, also the Europeans brought farming practices that increased the plentifulness of high carb foods as well.


18 posted on 07/25/2012 9:58:36 AM PDT by GraceG
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To: GraceG

Europeans were ultimately absorbed into the CORN CULTURE.


19 posted on 07/25/2012 10:35:57 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Fiji Hill
"mash" ~ wouldn't know about mashed potatoes in the Desert SW, but wherever potatoes wandered I'm sure they ended up that way. BTW, they originate in the Andean highlands, not Europe.

Regarding Europe, the potato arrived and there was their doom!

20 posted on 07/25/2012 10:39:07 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: ichabod1
“Dude finds a fossilized turd and is ready to generalize about the whole “native-american” diet? Does he understand that there were hundreds of tribes and dozens of nations located all over the continent and the chances that they were all eating “incredibly fibrous diets” are rather slim? Has he considered the possibility that this brave had just eaten a tasteless, horrible meal that the wife of the big chief had gotten her hubby to force everyone to eat, and that the next day he went back to his mastodon steaks and bronto burgers?”

Or that the natural variation course of rainfall changed the sources of their diets? Or that when interactions with non-endogenous people exposed them to different bacteria, fungi and viruses? Or that sanitation conditions changed? Or that more sophisticated weapons made it easier to kill game? Or that the RESEARCHERS WERE ALREADY COMMITTED TO THEIR FINDINGS THAT DIETARY CHANGES WERE RESPONSIBLE AND ONLY EVIDENCE THAT WAS CONFIRMATORY WAS GIVEN ANY CREDENCE?

To name just a few.

21 posted on 07/25/2012 10:52:12 AM PDT by Cyman
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To: ozzymandus
Any mention of the effects of alcoholism on the rate of diabetes of Native Americans?

This is the real challenge.

22 posted on 07/25/2012 11:12:18 AM PDT by FatherofFive (Islam is evil and must be eradicated)
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To: Renfield

I thought it was a given that responses to the article were to the author and not the poster.


23 posted on 07/25/2012 11:54:28 AM PDT by SampleMan (Feral Humans are the refuse of socialism.)
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To: Renfield

God almighty, Anglos are responsible for EVERYTHING wrong with the world today, aren’t they?


24 posted on 07/25/2012 2:44:02 PM PDT by Vanders9
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To: Renfield; StayAt HomeMother; Ernest_at_the_Beach; decimon; 1010RD; 21twelve; 24Karet; ...

 GGG managers are SunkenCiv, StayAt HomeMother & Ernest_at_the_Beach
Thanks Renfield.

To all -- please ping me to other topics which are appropriate for the GGG list.


25 posted on 07/25/2012 5:01:37 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: Revolting cat!

Fossilized? Must’ve been a difficult blockage to pass.


26 posted on 07/26/2012 8:52:27 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (Eric Holder's NAACP rally against the voter ID laws required the press to bring govt issue photo ID.)
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To: Slings and Arrows

This scientist’s job went to crap.


27 posted on 07/26/2012 8:53:33 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (Eric Holder's NAACP rally against the voter ID laws required the press to bring govt issue photo ID.)
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To: Slings and Arrows

This scientist’s job went to crap.


28 posted on 07/26/2012 8:53:33 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (Eric Holder's NAACP rally against the voter ID laws required the press to bring govt issue photo ID.)
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To: Renfield

Unless these pinheads are also willing to admit there are DNA differences between people this study made a ridiculous conclusion.


29 posted on 07/26/2012 8:58:33 AM PDT by CodeToad (History says our end is near.)
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To: Renfield; Salamander

Salamander, you letting the kitteh use the computer?


30 posted on 07/26/2012 10:04:40 AM PDT by Slings and Arrows (You can't have IngSoc without an Emmanuel Goldstein.)
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To: Slings and Arrows
Nope.

The cat's in big trouble.

He went into the closet and ripped up the paper towels and toilet paper.

Gonna be a long time before he gets his webbernet privileges back.

31 posted on 07/26/2012 3:43:15 PM PDT by Salamander (I laugh to myself at the men and the ladies who never conceived of us billion dollar babies.)
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To: Vanders9

I’m Celtic and yes they are!

LOL


32 posted on 07/26/2012 3:46:47 PM PDT by Salamander (I laugh to myself at the men and the ladies who never conceived of us billion dollar babies.)
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To: Salamander

At least until he stops smiling.


33 posted on 07/26/2012 4:42:23 PM PDT by Slings and Arrows (You can't have IngSoc without an Emmanuel Goldstein.)
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To: Salamander

Really? 100% pureblood Celtic?


34 posted on 07/27/2012 3:32:15 AM PDT by Vanders9
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To: Vanders9

Scots/Irish/Welsh/Danish.

“Pure” as can be, I reckon.


35 posted on 07/27/2012 3:45:25 AM PDT by Salamander (I laugh to myself at the men and the ladies who never conceived of us billion dollar babies.)
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To: Salamander

Exactly so. Most people are racially a real smorsgabord. “Celtic”, if it means anything, is a cultural definition.


36 posted on 07/27/2012 12:56:13 PM PDT by Vanders9
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