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German U-boat Found 100 Kilometers Inland in Labrador
Canadian Broadcasting Corporation ^ | July 25, 2012 | CBC News

Posted on 07/27/2012 8:01:04 AM PDT by JerseyanExile

An important piece of history from the Second World War may be sitting in a river in Labrador.

Searchers believe they've found a German U-boat buried in the sand on the bottom of the Churchill River. The discovery has yet to be authenticated.

Two years ago, searchers scoured the bottom of the Churchill River with side-scanning sonar. They were looking for three men lost over Muskrat Falls.

When they reviewed the footage from that search, they made an unexpected discovery.

"We were looking for something completely different, not a submarine, not a U-boat — I mean, no one would ever believe that was possible," Brian Corbin told CBC News.

"It was a great feeling when we found it."

At first glance, it can be hard to spot the submarine on the sonar image of the riverbed. When you put it next to a drawing of the boat, some of the features become a lot clearer.

The length is about 30 metres, or "exactly what our side-scan sonar shows," Corbin said.

"So we're pretty sure it is, and we've filed this with receiverships and wrecks, and I think they're confirming that it is possibly a U-boat."

It's unclear how the sub may have ended up that far inland, more than 100 kilometres from the ocean.

(Excerpt) Read more at cbc.ca ...


TOPICS: History; Military/Veterans; Weird Stuff
KEYWORDS: canada; germany; godsgravesglyphs; labrador; uboat; worldwareleven; worldwarii; ww2

1 posted on 07/27/2012 8:01:13 AM PDT by JerseyanExile
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To: JerseyanExile

"Ok, Who's the U-Boat Commander?"

2 posted on 07/27/2012 8:03:13 AM PDT by dfwgator (FUJR (not you, Jim))
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To: JerseyanExile

How deep can the river be at that point? Not very, I’d think. Barely enough to conceal a submerged sub. Probably barely enough to float a sub running on the surface.


3 posted on 07/27/2012 8:09:06 AM PDT by skeeter
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To: JerseyanExile
This particular u-boat must have had a much more powerful drive train than the standard model.
4 posted on 07/27/2012 8:09:06 AM PDT by shove_it (purge pandering progressive parasites)
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To: shove_it

Probably one of those sub toys for the bathtub.


5 posted on 07/27/2012 8:12:50 AM PDT by whitedog57
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To: JerseyanExile

I wonder if there were any POW camps in the immediate area housing German POW’s? The article also makes mention of the separate discovery of a battery powered weather monitor apparently left by a U-boat on Canadian soil. Could this U-boat have been “making a delivery?”


6 posted on 07/27/2012 8:19:30 AM PDT by Tallguy (It's all 'Fun and Games' until somebody loses an eye!)
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To: JerseyanExile

Reminds of a Canadian movie during the war (don’t recall name). The story is of a U-boat landing in Hudson Bay and how the crew is chased across Canada, ending up near Calgary. Banff was also in there I think.

Truth stranger than fiction.


7 posted on 07/27/2012 8:21:44 AM PDT by School of Rational Thought (Fun for women ages 21 through 35)
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To: School of Rational Thought

From Wiki:

“It is rumored that in 1944 the crew of German submarine had beached it at the falls when they decided to withdraw from World War II. The rumour inspired a novel written in the 1990’s, but was thought to be unsupported. In 2010, divers searching for three men who died after being carried over Muskrat Falls found a 30-metre long object on the bottom of the Churchill River, believed by diver Brian Corbin to be the missing U-boat [1].”


8 posted on 07/27/2012 8:24:10 AM PDT by Tallguy (It's all 'Fun and Games' until somebody loses an eye!)
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To: JerseyanExile

I like the irony that the German U-boat foundered in the CHURCHILL River.


9 posted on 07/27/2012 8:29:20 AM PDT by PGR88
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To: dfwgator

We definitely grab the boat!

10 posted on 07/27/2012 8:31:42 AM PDT by Tallguy (It's all 'Fun and Games' until somebody loses an eye!)
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To: Tallguy

"You've lost ANOTHER submarine?"

11 posted on 07/27/2012 8:34:16 AM PDT by dfwgator (FUJR (not you, Jim))
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To: dfwgator

Great Movie. Sometimes you just gotta say WTF!


12 posted on 07/27/2012 8:35:32 AM PDT by crazydad (-` sd)
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To: School of Rational Thought

You weren’t thinking of “The MacKenzie Break” by any chance? It’s the first thing I thought of. Kinda far fetched. U-boats wouldn’t have had a lot of space for freed POW’s.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0066064/


13 posted on 07/27/2012 8:35:32 AM PDT by Tallguy (It's all 'Fun and Games' until somebody loses an eye!)
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To: JerseyanExile

Chock full of the only “good” socialists that can conceivably exist.


14 posted on 07/27/2012 8:37:21 AM PDT by Caipirabob (I say we take off and Newt the site from orbit. It's the only way to be sure...)
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To: JerseyanExile

The Germans kept very detailed records.This should be a”piece of cake”?


15 posted on 07/27/2012 8:41:05 AM PDT by bandleader
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To: JerseyanExile

Sounds like the opening of a Clive Cussler novel.


16 posted on 07/27/2012 8:48:36 AM PDT by william clark (Ecclesiastes 10:2)
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To: JerseyanExile

Interesting and VERY STRANGE for a location. The Churchill River (formerly the Hamilton River) is on the mainland portion of Newfoundland (mouth abt. 54N 57W) and empties into the Labrador Sea which is the arm of the Atlantic between Canada and Greenland.

The article mentions 2 potential reasons for an U-Boat to be up there during WW2. The first is the past and current presence of Goose Bay air base which was used by Allied Air Forces in WW2. The other possibility was to operate a weather station for German naval operations in the North Atlantic. The shipping lanes that the U-Boats hunted were far to the southeast and the water temps would have been quite chilly in the best of conditions during deep summer (the season of tough sledding).

Maybe a Clive Cussler-type novel in the making.


17 posted on 07/27/2012 8:49:30 AM PDT by SES1066 (Government is NOT the reason for my existence!)
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To: JerseyanExile

It hasn’t been found. Misleading headline. A couple years ago someone saw some sonar images that made him think it could be a submarine. Now, some scientists are going to do another search to see what they can discover. So, no, it hasn’t been “found”.


18 posted on 07/27/2012 8:52:00 AM PDT by bcsco
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To: JerseyanExile

They just wanted some maple syrup and back bacon.


19 posted on 07/27/2012 8:52:45 AM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: william clark
You: Sounds like the opening of a Clive Cussler novel.
Me: Maybe a Clive Cussler-type novel in the making.

You and I read the same kind of stuff apparently. I have to say I haven't found any of his work to exceed his "Raise the Titanic" novel and the last ones have left me cold.

20 posted on 07/27/2012 8:57:20 AM PDT by SES1066 (Government is NOT the reason for my existence!)
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To: Tallguy
The article also makes mention of the separate discovery of a battery powered weather monitor apparently left by a U-boat on Canadian soil. Could this U-boat have been “making a delivery?”

Fascinating stuff.

Note the last bit on the linked page, a reference to a second U-boat carrying another weather station to the same area. Supposedly sunk far out at sea.

21 posted on 07/27/2012 9:02:21 AM PDT by Charles Martel (Endeavor to persevere...)
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To: JerseyanExile

Assuming the story is true and the crew scuttled their boat, what happened to them? How do Germans who likely don’t even speak english blend in and avoid capture? You would think someone from the crew would have said or written something over the years.


22 posted on 07/27/2012 9:10:31 AM PDT by Kirkwood (Zombie Hunter)
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To: SES1066
"I have to say I haven't found any of his work to exceed his "Raise the Titanic" novel and the last ones have left me cold."

I pretty much have to agree with you. The more recent stuff with his name on them appears to have been written by a rotating committee of "ghost" or assistant writers. I won't buy anything of his that has a second author listed along with him.

I will say, though, I'm still very partial to most of his earlier work, particularly "Night Probe" and "Sahara". In fact, I even liked the movie version of "Sahara", although it left out most of the best stuff from the book ...

23 posted on 07/27/2012 9:11:47 AM PDT by BlueLancer ("No friend ever served me, and no enemy ever wronged me, whom I have not repaid in full" (Sulla))
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To: Tallguy

No.

“49th Parallel”

Raymond Massey and Leslie Howard

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/49th_Parallel_%28film%29


24 posted on 07/27/2012 9:12:26 AM PDT by School of Rational Thought (Fun for women ages 21 through 35)
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To: JerseyanExile

The poor dog. I’ve heard that labs will eat anything, but a submarine?


25 posted on 07/27/2012 9:13:34 AM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: School of Rational Thought

Thanks! I’ll be looking for that one!


26 posted on 07/27/2012 9:21:10 AM PDT by Tallguy (It's all 'Fun and Games' until somebody loses an eye!)
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To: SES1066
Goose Bay air base which was used by Allied Air Forces in WW2

Goose Bay air base is near Happy Valley (seen in the flyover) and was originally built for B-25s used to hunt U-boats in the North Atlantic.

27 posted on 07/27/2012 9:22:45 AM PDT by MulberryDraw (That which cannot be paid, won't be paid.)
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To: skeeter
Probably barely enough to float a sub running on the surface.

And just think of what mines could do in such a river.

I read "Iron Coffins" years ago, and I'm pretty sure the author mined the Chesapeake Bay on one mission.

I'd bet mining Canadian ports in the early days of WW II was a priority item.

28 posted on 07/27/2012 9:32:08 AM PDT by Calvin Locke
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To: JerseyanExile

Thirty meters is waaaaay small for a Uboat. Even a Type IIA coastal Uboat was over 40 meters. The standard boat, Type VIIC, was 67 meters.

http://www.uboat.net/types/iia.htm
http://www.uboat.net/types/viic.htm

So, either they are seeing only part of the Uboat, or it was a midget. The biggest of the German midgets, the Seehund, was only 17 meters, though. So it is still a mystery.


29 posted on 07/27/2012 9:40:07 AM PDT by Little Ray (AGAINST Obama in the General.)
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To: SES1066

I read all the Dirk Pitt novels up to where he started collaborating with his son. I started one, but got diverted and never went back to it. Read a couple of the Kurt Austins but they didn’t really grab me, either. Recently I read “Golden Buddha” but found that it was impossible to keep track of the characters.

On the other hand, I’ve been enjoying his new Isaac Bell series. Although set in a different time frame, it seems to capture the flavor of the early adventures better than any of the others I’ve read.

My personal favorite has always been Night Probe, and Cussler once told me it was his favorite plot of the ones he’d written to that point. He also told me that he wanted to actually use the name James Bond, but some miscommunication led him to believe that he couldn’t. Turned out that the literary rights to the character name are held separately from the film rights, and it could have been worked out.


30 posted on 07/27/2012 9:49:02 AM PDT by william clark (Ecclesiastes 10:2)
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To: the scotsman

Pinging... Thought you might be interested.


31 posted on 07/27/2012 10:07:08 AM PDT by Tallguy (It's all 'Fun and Games' until somebody loses an eye!)
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To: MulberryDraw
Goose Bay air base is near Happy Valley (seen in the flyover) and was originally built for B-25s used to hunt U-boats in the North Atlantic.

More recently CFB Goose Bay was a welcome albeit unexpected stop by 7 trans-Atlantic flights who's US destinations were closed on 09/11/2011. Like almost all of the other 09/11 flights that were diverted to Canada on both coasts, the crew and passengers were warmly treated by both officials and residents during a very trying and unnerving time of indefinite hold. Kudos are owed to these cold but warm Canadians!

32 posted on 07/27/2012 10:08:54 AM PDT by SES1066 (Government is NOT the reason for my existence!)
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To: JerseyanExile

> If the mystery find is proven to be a submarine wreck, the
> German government does not favour bringing it to the
> surface.

> “That would be against our tradition and our naval
> customs,” Juergens said. “You know, zombies and scheisse.”


33 posted on 07/27/2012 10:35:02 AM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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To: JerseyanExile

34 posted on 07/27/2012 11:03:07 AM PDT by Last Dakotan
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To: Last Dakotan

One of Our Submarines - Thomas Dolby

One of our submarines is missing tonight
Seems she ran aground on manoeuvres
One of our submarines

A hungry heart
To regulate their breathing
One more night
the Winter Boys are freezing in their spam time
The Baltic moon
Along the northern seaboard
And down below
The Winter Boys are waiting for the storm

Bye-bye empire, empire bye-bye
Shallow water - channel and tide

And I can trace my history
Down one generation to my home
In one of our submarines
One of our submarines

The red light flicker, sonar weak
Air valves hissing open
Half her pressure blown away
Flounder in the ocean
See the Winter Boys
Drinking heavy water from a stone

Bye-bye empire, empire bye-bye
Shallow water - channel and tide
Bye-bye empire, empire bye-bye
Tired illusion drown in the night

And I can trace my history
Down one generation to my home
In one of our submarines
One of our submarines
One of our submarines

One of our submarines is missing tonight
Seems she ran aground on manoeuveres
One of our submarines


35 posted on 07/27/2012 11:07:26 AM PDT by dfwgator (FUJR (not you, Jim))
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To: BlueLancer

i liked the movie SAHARA too. we may be the only two. it’s just plan fun. i agree with your best picks too.

i think there was a POW escape plan to reach the coast and meet a u-boat. i believe otto kresthmer, a POW and an ardent nazi was involved.


36 posted on 07/27/2012 11:12:38 AM PDT by bravo whiskey (If the little things really bother you, maybe it's because the big things are going well.)
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To: JerseyanExile; Squawk 8888; TEXOKIE

 GGG managers are SunkenCiv, StayAt HomeMother & Ernest_at_the_Beach
Thanks JerseyanExile. Just adding to the catalog, not sending a general distribution.

To all -- please ping me to other topics which are appropriate for the GGG list.


37 posted on 07/27/2012 6:05:47 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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