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Vanity - Handloaded ammunition for self defense?

Posted on 07/27/2012 8:39:45 AM PDT by stuartcr

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To: SJSAMPLE

Always used a lee pro1000, never had a single problem. That is, some of the reloads have a problem in my super-tight peters stahl barrel which demands 45acp to the old Thompson submachine specs. No problem with normal barrel.


101 posted on 07/27/2012 5:46:26 PM PDT by Hardraade (http://junipersec.wordpress.com (Obama Kills))
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To: stuartcr

My instructor said absolutely not for self defense. Only use the good stuff. As careful as you are, there are always defects in the handloading process so buy the ammo marked for personal defense.


102 posted on 07/27/2012 5:55:27 PM PDT by rabidralph
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To: rabidralph

Actually, you can do just-as-good quality control, you just have to know how. Downside is it slows down the process, and for shooters who have to bring the stuff to the shoots by the bucketfull, that means something.


103 posted on 07/27/2012 6:06:09 PM PDT by Hardraade (http://junipersec.wordpress.com (Obama Kills))
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To: stuartcr

The S&W airweight weighs about 13oz. The standard Hornady Critical Defense .38 SPL load in that gun is very comfortable to shoot. Probably not so much on the receiving end.

Your wife will do well with it. Much better than a .380 and much softer recoil that a 158 gr. load.


104 posted on 07/27/2012 8:42:32 PM PDT by 43north (BHO: 50% black, 50% white, 100% RED)
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To: CodeToad

Not if I worry about it beforehand and find the solution. Then if it does happens, one less problem.


105 posted on 07/27/2012 10:29:26 PM PDT by stuartcr ("When silence speaks, it speaks only to those that have already decided what they want to hear.")
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Thanks everyone for your input


106 posted on 07/27/2012 10:34:48 PM PDT by stuartcr ("When silence speaks, it speaks only to those that have already decided what they want to hear.")
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To: JRandomFreeper
In Texas, it's up to the grand jury, not the DA.

Does the DA determine if the case goes to a grand jury?

107 posted on 07/28/2012 7:32:38 AM PDT by aimhigh
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To: aimhigh
All homocides go to the GJ. Including police officer caused homocides.

Note that homocide means one person has killed another. It does not imply any wrongdoing on the one that killed.

/johnny

108 posted on 07/28/2012 7:37:37 AM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: JRandomFreeper

“All homocides go to the GJ. Including police officer caused homocides.”

But only if the DA calls for a GJ. The DA isn’t required to.


109 posted on 07/28/2012 8:52:30 AM PDT by CodeToad (History says our end is near.)
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To: MtBaldy

“The reason so many gun nmakers advise against using reloaded ammo is not because it is better ammo but because the quality control is less.”

Isn’t that what I said? Can you not read?


110 posted on 07/28/2012 8:54:01 AM PDT by CodeToad (History says our end is near.)
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To: MtBaldy

“You’re talking about exceptional people at the top of their game.”

At the top of their hype to make money. You swallow it. Fine. Your decision, not mine.


111 posted on 07/28/2012 8:54:56 AM PDT by CodeToad (History says our end is near.)
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To: CodeToad
In Texas, all homocides go to the GJ.

/johnny

112 posted on 07/28/2012 8:59:37 AM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: JRandomFreeper

In Colorado, they don’t. See, we DO have better laws than Texas! :)


113 posted on 07/28/2012 9:01:08 AM PDT by CodeToad (History says our end is near.)
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To: stuartcr

If that’s the one in .44 spl I use a 210 gr JHP over 4.8 grains of Bullseye. It chronographs at about 900 fps. That’s roughly equivalent to a .45 ACP yet she finds it very controllable and easy to shoot.


114 posted on 07/28/2012 9:08:23 AM PDT by Lurker (Violence is rarely the answer. But when it is, it is the only answer.)
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To: stuartcr

I have been reloading on a single stage press for over two years, actually I use two, an RCBS and a Lee, both will have the same die for a specific cartridge but one may be the resizing and the other the seater.

And digital calipers, an electronic scale, case length trimmers. My loads vary from 9mm, .40, 10mm,.44, .45,and the rifled ones from 7.62x39 on up to .375. Originally I was just doing hunting rounds, developed nice precise Barnes bullets cartridges. They are all done one at a time, no turret press.

But in the last ten years it tends to build up, and every year a new bullet comes out, a new powder and even some new calibers, for awhile I was into the .45 case with it necked down to a .40, even bought the dies and a barrel for on my Glocks, but it was a nightmare to bottle neck the cases and so I have these rounds that I may just pull the bullets out of, it just wasn’t reliable to feed the 400 Corbon, but a factory load would supposedly feed.

My recent load duplication was the Corbon .45acp with the Barnes 185gr solid copper XPB bullet. That actually went quit well and I am now working on a 10mm with the Barnes XPB or as the box says M/LE Tac-XP (same as the XPB).

Barnes won’t publish 10mm data, the bullet has a unique deep cavity and being copper penetrates sheet metal and auto glass without didintegrating and then if it hits soft tissue the cavity opens up the head like a miniature star. The Barnes Triple shock big game bullets are literally one shot drop cartridges. Sure they are speny, but then I don’t plan on having C-mags and visiting a theater full of bears either.

For a novice one at a time, and I have made mistakes, nothing serious, when you attempt to speed up the process you may wind up with hundreds of rounds that may be too long, the primers upside down or bulged cases.

And some rounds like the .380 are terribly finicky if you are just even a few grains different between loads. I again would say the .45acp is the most forging and easiest to load for a beginner.


115 posted on 07/28/2012 9:25:15 AM PDT by Eye of Unk (Going mobile, posts will be brief. No spellcheck for the grammar nazis.)
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To: Eye of Unk

Wish I could edit my post, I meant I have been reloading over twelve years.


116 posted on 07/28/2012 9:27:03 AM PDT by Eye of Unk (Going mobile, posts will be brief. No spellcheck for the grammar nazis.)
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To: JRandomFreeper

“In Texas, all homocides go to the GJ.”

Slight correction to that. It might be common practice as the DAs of Texas appear to cover their butts by getting the GJ to no-bill a case, but the only thing that is required is that in the Texas constitution the GJ is required to forward felonies for prosecution, the DA cannot take a case to court without indictment of a GJ. However, the DA still makes the decision to take a homicide, which all self-defense cases are, to the GJ in the first place. It appears they routinely do, but they are not required to unless they want to prosecute the case.


117 posted on 07/28/2012 9:28:53 AM PDT by CodeToad (History says our end is near.)
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To: Lurker

No, it’s the .38


118 posted on 07/28/2012 9:34:08 AM PDT by stuartcr ("When silence speaks, it speaks only to those that have already decided what they want to hear.")
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